Nvidia 30 Series unveiled - RTX 3080 2x faster than 2080 for $699

[nick name]

11 minutes ago, Kierax said:

@LinusTech I fully expect a watercooled 3090 within 24hours of the first card landing in the studio.

If the first card is a founders then trying to use an AIO without some sort of fan on top of the block would make me think everything else is gonna cook itself.  Unless EK has an actual block for it at launch.

[M3talGod2]

1 minute ago, gabrielcarvfer said:

You knew Nvidia was about to release the next gen by then. On the bright side: you got a pretty decent graphics card.

Funnily enough, I didn't know. Been out of the pc scene for a while and learned about the new gen coming out about last week, but you are right, it is a good gpu.

[nick name]

Just now, M3talGod2 said:

Funnily enough, I didn't know. Been out of the pc scene for a while and learned about the new gen coming out about last week, but you are right, it is a good gpu.

Can you return it?  If not then you can just sell it and suffer a small loss at the expense of more performance.  

[M3talGod2]

4 minutes ago, porina said:

It happens. I know someone who got a 2080Ti last week, knowing full well the next gen is about to come out. It still blows away the 980Ti I gave him previously. Also for him, waiting a month+ was not an option as a game 'tuber/streamer and the old system was literally dying.

I'm not sweating it too much, was just a little bit of a sting to see the price of the 3070. Just means I can wait 2+ years for the 40 series and upgrade then.

[Tieox]

5 minutes ago, nick name said:

If the first card is a founders then trying to use an AIO without some sort of fan on top of the block would make me think everything else is gonna cook itself.  Unless EK has an actual block for it at launch.

I want a clip of him handing a taken apart 3090 to Alex, and saying " I want this watercooled by tomorrow, no problem right?" before Linus heads out of the office, turns off his phone and heads home.

[M3talGod2]

Just now, nick name said:

Can you return it?  If not then you can just sell it and suffer a small loss at the expense of more performance.  

Nah bought it off the subreddit r/hardwareswap. I'm not stressing too much. It's also nuts over there right now, would lose like $100+ on what I paid for it since people are valuing the 2070 super so low right now.

[porina]

2 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

When people buy such expensive graphics card, they don't have money for a decent monitor with DisplayPort, it seems.

I spent over 3x the cash on my TV than my G-sync gaming monitor.

 

1 minute ago, GoodBytes said:

Well you are not representing the majority of people Already VR is very small market share. You can use an adapter, or a DisplayPort to HDMI cable, where each ends are different, if you don't want to see an adapter in the way.

On a similar note, how many people NEED 3 DP ports? Sure, using 3 displays are a thing. Do they all need to be DP? All monitors I have with DP also have HDMI. Yes, there's always a question about which version so if you have high res and Hz, there may be limitations with either. Native output is best. Adapters are a mess. Are the GPU outputs DP++? Intel I think are, but I don't know about red/green offerings. I really don't know. Active adapters are costly and I'm not convinced on their compatibility for advanced features.

 

Anyway, Asus and Gigabyte appear to be offering two HDMI 2.1 ports, so they will likely get my money over those that don't.

[Parideboy]

51 minutes ago, porina said:

Even at 3.0 you get roughly 16GB/s. Next time you're gaming, fire up GPU-Z and look on the 2nd tab. One of them is bus interface load. Let me know if that ever gets high enough for you to think, you need more. I don't think I've seen it go high in gaming scenarios, but it can get high in some compute uses.

 

The RTX I/O feature, when it starts to get used, so you might get maximum 8GB/s streaming from SSD. That's still only half of a 3.0 slot.

A 5500XT is bottlenecked by pci 3.0. In a neglegiable way yes (in games), but it does in fact cut the bandwidth.

 

https://www.pcgameshardware.de/Radeon-RX-5500-XT-8G-Grafikkarte-275704/Specials/PCI-Express-3-vs-PCI-E-4-GPU-1339415/?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=fd5bde17cc3f8eb99395b47a80502a5bc8d39458-1598988511-0-AXWO1BhfglwpYvOSDYygiVzHl0JPRZDECLZ-yxbeAC9twZbSV3f4QdwDnafQ9IoXpbHbtPaxoFDVILHgTWjU7Ym8tqYx8ZRZf15drM17iSzsNTr1EqtT6s67WuIY8xuLUgkuYVfJq6QEtm-G8JE6onxM39gncGGtyExGT0uD2qukY3WFtsvwdG_naLqLwMQ1mnlsOeaCssbur_fvhHsmM74r4GvUZAxJBUDHgyyyq_nmAv3fuwRiGKC-i7IokQD5uFGZ7NCd4MbweYuTzbIpiIb5ehmTarLjVNfgNuUY_-2jr1cY18uuy7qyEhKfvRmdDvZoxhpcQSi2fDQhzIgKZb0QVGJwnV_FJxUrYzlOevqE1zsR8C2rbz5anqJvEsBkBw

 

It's in german, but the graphs at the end of the article are pretty clear. Obviously, there are games that care about bandwidth more than others.

 

Would it matter in a day to day use? Probably not. Is it important to remove any possible bottlenecks? Yes

 

58 minutes ago, Quinnell said:

I haven't watched the linked videos, but nvidia themselves in their slides mention i9 for testing.

Yeah, I don't think mentioning their only competitor is in their plans

[RejZoR]

I was hoping NVIDIA would showcase DLSS 3.0 that is game agnostic and doesn't require specific coding for games. I'd also appreciate of they'd offer SMAA instead of FXAA in NVCP. And for god sake, replace the stupid, slow and outdated NVCP already. For the love of all that's holy NVIDIA. It's 2020 already, not 2004... Sure it's impressive, but it's whole package that counts, not just few highlights with rotten stuff around that.

[porina]

4 minutes ago, Parideboy said:

A 5500XT is bottlenecked by pci 3.0. In a neglegiable way yes (in games), but it does in fact cut the bandwidth.

I never said it had no difference, we knew for a long time it has a small difference in gaming. Those results don't change that. The 8GB card, presumably is mostly running on-board VRAM so low single digit % difference. The 4GB card sees more of an impact, presumably whatever settings they used were causing it to page to system ram, so it would be impacted more. However I'd argue a 4GB card owner would typically choose lower settings to maintain performance, so it isn't necessarily a typical operating scenario.

[flipped_bit]

I've never spent more than $250 USD on a GPU.  If the 3070 ends up being better than the RTX 2080 Ti in non-ray-tracing performance for $500 USD, I think I'm breaking my rule.

 

An RTX 3070 along with a Ryzen 4800X has the makings of a pretty damn good bang for the buck system upgrade.  I hope AMD can deliver next-gen Ryzen this fall.

[Nowak]

1 hour ago, LAwLz said:

Then we come to pricing... I don't know what prices were like when they launched but right now, in Sweden, the 5700XT is more expensive than the 2070, but the 5600XT is slightly cheaper than the 2060. 

Here in America, the 5700 XT is $100 cheaper than the 2070 Super, and I would say about the same as the standard 2070 but that's being scalped. Considering the 2070s is $100 more for... 5% better performance, is it really better to buy Nvidia than AMD? As for the 2060 vs. 5600 XT, they're about on par.

 

Also, for the record, that $500 starting point is more than what I paid for my 1070 by (a nice) $69.

[Quinnell]

21 minutes ago, Parideboy said:

Yeah, I don't think mentioning their only competitor is in their plans

Hrmm.... I never said that.  Did you goof while making a multi-quote?  

[Valentyn]

Daddy is ready to replace his card with a 3090. It even supports studio drivers. Lovely.

[Anarchyz11]

46 minutes ago, RejZoR said:

I was hoping NVIDIA would showcase DLSS 3.0 that is game agnostic and doesn't require specific coding for games. I'd also appreciate of they'd offer SMAA instead of FXAA in NVCP. And for god sake, replace the stupid, slow and outdated NVCP already. For the love of all that's holy NVIDIA. It's 2020 already, not 2004... Sure it's impressive, but it's whole package that counts, not just few highlights with rotten stuff around that.

DLSS 3.0 would be a huge selling point, so my guess is it isn't even close to ready. 

[WihGlah]

Looks like I am having the Titan  3090 this year then...

 

10Gb is just not cutting it.

[Juanitology]

699 for the 3080 is actually pretty reasonable pricing for Nvidia. I'm pleasantly surprised. Sure the big boi 3090 looks to be about 20% faster, but 2.2x the price for a 20% performance bump makes no sense. I'm guessing the only people who will buy it will be money-is-no-object people who want the best of the best or pros who really need the 24GB of vram. 

[FaxedForward]

Is it just me, or does it appear that their seemingly clever cooling solution is going to exhaust hot air straight into any tower-style CPU air cooler?

 

I really like the style of this round of FE cards, but that may mean an AIB card for me.

 

[Parideboy]

45 minutes ago, Quinnell said:

Hrmm.... I never said that.  Did you goof while making a multi-quote?  

Yeah, probably sorry

[thechinchinsong]

RTX-3070 price reaction: 

RTX-3080 price reaction: 

RTX-3090 price reaction: 

[Juanitology]

Just now, thechinchinsong said:

RTX-3070 price reaction: 

RTX-3080 price reaction: 

RTX-3090 price reaction: 

You gotta keep in mind that the 3090 is basically a Titan. So if you compare it with a previous gen Titan it's actually pretty cheap. 1GB of GDDR6X is like 15 bucks. So if we get a 12GB version of the 3090 in the future then it would probably be 180usd less in cost which could be 300usd less in final cost. So we might have a 12GB 3080Ti version go for 1299usd.

[dfsgsfa]

now most importantly , when exactly is amd announcing their gpu?

[TrainFan475]

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[BroliviaWilde]

i'll be rocking a 1080ti for quite some time for 1440p gaming.  I just don't have the deep burning desire to get a new GPU anytime soon, just crank up game settings to max and VRR makes it all buttery smooth at just about any framerate (except for slideshows). 

RT is neat, but current non-RT lighting effects work just fine.

Getting into 4k gaming is another thing altogether, that's where these new high end cards become very appealing.

 

[tikker]

14 minutes ago, FaxedForward said:

Is it just me, or does it appear that their seemingly clever cooling solution is going to exhaust hot air straight into any tower-style CPU air cooler?

 

I really like the style of this round of FE cards, but that may mean an AIB card for me.

 

 

Looks like it, but will it be that different from current coolers just dumping hot air in the case?

 

So excited about the pricing. This is so close to what I paid for my 1080 Ti back then. This is an insta-buy for me. Can't wait to finally experience ray tracing