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One hinge not enough for you? How about two? TCL unveils trifold phone.

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More known for their budget smart television, TCL, has earlier demonstrated their foldable phone designs at the Mobile World Conference months ago. Now they have a bigger step forward and created the first double hinged phone, CNET was about to get a hands on try out of the device.

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I've opened and closed foldable phones hundreds of times by now. But even after reviewing the Galaxy Fold (twice), playing with Huawei's Mate X and bending slim concept designs, nothing has prepared me for TCL's prototype dual-hinged phone, which folds in three parts and opens into a huge, 10-inch tablet. 

The most remarkable thing about TCL's phone is that the hinges themselves move in different directions. The DragonHinge fold in, like a book, or like the Galaxy Fold, while the Butterfly Hinge folds the opposite way.

The two hinges create a zigzag shape as you open and close the device, a silhouette in Z. It looks like an accordion. Or a taco holder. And I have to get my greedy hands on it to give it a fold, one panel at a time: Open. Folded over once. Completely folded up into a triple-stacked sandwich so that the exposed panel becomes the TCL phone's "outer" screen. With this design, a single uninterrupted screen does it all.

As with other foldable phones, the act of folding feels physical and visceral in a way that makes me appreciate the engineering feat of any company attempting to make devices whose screens bend in half.

 

Foldable phones are the next frontier in phone design, delivering at least double the screen space in a package that's practical enough to tote around. Unfolded, the large screens promise an expansive display for reading, watching videos, gaming and multitasking. Folded up, you can use them on the go. Despite very real fears over screen damage that could send lofty foldable ambitions crashing to the ground, device-makers are scrambling to push out their own new designs -- to bag reputation points as much as to capture buyers' attention.

It's into this mix that TCL is dropping its wild new prototype. Best known for making really good, affordable TVs, TCL is now aligning its phone business under the same brand. The company has already trotted out concept designs and announced its DragonHinge months before this particular dual-hinge effort. 

CL's prototype design doesn't have a name, a price or a target window for production. It doesn't even have a working screen. All that will come. For now, I'm mesmerized as I work the hinges with my hands, and imagine what it'd be like to use a triply folding device. 

Folding one panel under, for example, could turn a portion of the screen into a digital keyboard while you use another part as the display. When you fully close the phone, you'd be able to use it as a really chunky handset.

Yes, you'll see creases when it's open -- and no, we still don't have bendable glass to better protect the display. That raises questions about the wear and tear on a device with a plastic cover material that's exposed to sharp objects, damage from pressure and the elements, like rain and dust. These are the same issues that plagued the $1,980 Galaxy Fold and spurred Samsung to retrofit its foldable phone to make it sturdier than its first attempt.

For now, there's no consensus on what the "best" foldable phone design is, and that's what makes this all so exciting. We're in the Wild West phase where any prototype or concept goes, from the vertically folding Motorola Razr that CNET discovered will come out by the end of 2019, to the square foldable phone that Samsung's rumored to be building. 

Microsoft, too, has its bookish Surface Pro Duo slated for 2020 and Chinese brand Xiaomi wowed us with an early concept that has you folding back two side display panels behind a center panel.

When and if it becomes a real product, TCL's prototype will face distinct challenges with ensuring sturdy construction, a semiaffordable price and a sales plan to put the biggest foldable phone we've seen yet in front of real buyers. But enough reality for now. I let the teeming questions slide from my mind and give the Butterfly Hinge one more fold.

  • Roughly 10-inch screen when fully opened
  • Four rear cameras
  • Front-facing camera
  • USB-C charger port
  • Iridescent finish
  • No headphone jack

 

Source:https://www.cnet.com/news/hands-on-with-a-new-foldable-phone-concept-thats-the-largest-and-most-daring-yet/

 

Thoughts: As a person that favors performance over design. I don't think I will buy any kind of foldable phone withing the next 3 years, still this is a great start, especially for people that likes to use phablets but doesn't have the pocket space to carry one. I could imagine this phone would break even faster than the Galaxy fold did and probably why the Huawei Mate X has been delayed for so long. Now we are all looking at how the new Motorola Razr will fare.

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Oh yay, more points of failure!

 

@Bacon soup Allow me to introduce the motorola razr 2019

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just make a hexaflexagon phone already

 

you'll have many folds

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Folding smartphone might not be for everyone but I am glad we are pushing tech. As this could have other uses outside of phones. That said I still want to see Hauwei's version as it doesn't have the crease and looks so much better

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There's a whole lot of reasons I think folding phones are just not ready at this time, with perhaps the most significant being that the screen scratches - or more accurately, dents - at a level 2, which is just FAR too delicate for any daily driver device, particularly one that will cost so much.  However, if you're going to do it, this is the correct way imo.  A single fold creates a mathematically unavoidable issue where your aspect ratio is going to be stupid in one or even both positions and there's really just nothing you can do about it.  With a 3 way fold, you can have it shaped like a normal phone when closed and approximate a more normal desktop display when open.  Truly ideal imo.

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2 minutes ago, FezBoy said:

Oh yay, more points of failure!

 

@Bacon soup Allow me to introduce the motorola razr 2019

 

a flip phone with two screens would be cool, and cheaper. I miss the Sony Xperia mini x10. That was the best form

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Found another vid of some other TCL concepts. One of them even has a working screen! ?

 

Not surprisingly, Apple, LG, Samsung, and Xiaomi are also reportedly working on phones of the dual-hinged variety (releases between 2021-2022?).

 

Apple: http://pdfaiw.uspto.gov/.aiw?PageNum=0&docid=20190053388&IDKey=852C82801B1C

 

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Xiaomi: https://euipo.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/designs/006272290-0001

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https://beebom.com/xiaomi-foldable-phone-renders/

 

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https://beebom.com/xiaomi-patent-foldable-phone-punch-hole-cameras/

https://euipo.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/designs/006272290-0001

 

LG: https://nl.letsgodigital.org/smartphones/lg-vouwbare-telefoon-styluspen/

 

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Samsung: https://nl.letsgodigital.org/smartphones/samsung-opvouwbare-telefoon-z-fold/

 

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Further descriptions of fold/hinge materials and mechanisms (Google, Microsoft, & Intel):

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Happy Folding! ⛺

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While I don't like the concept of foldable phones, I do enjoy seeing the development of bendable phone screens and how far companies are pushing the durability and flexibility of these screens given all the tech below the surface of the screens.

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7 hours ago, williamcll said:

No headphone jack

see everything about this was perfect until here.

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8 hours ago, williamcll said:

-blah blah blah snip-

  • No headphone jack

Cant believe I read through all of that just to be disappointing at the end. Like baking chocolate chips cookies yourself, only to find out once you bit into them that they're raisins.

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I think all phones should only unlock if you can Yodel perfectly. 

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16 hours ago, TVwazhere said:

Cant believe I read through all of that just to be disappointing at the end. Like baking chocolate chips cookies yourself, only to find out once you bit into them that they're raisins.

Oatmeal and raisins are delicious and so are phones with no headphone jack.

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4 hours ago, Arika S said:

give me a scroll phone or nothing

 

 

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id love to own that tbh

I spent $2500 on building my PC and all i do with it is play no games atm & watch anime at 1080p(finally) watch YT and write essays...  nothing, it just sits there collecting dust...

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So far The Razr really is the only foldable phone I have had any interest on.

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12 hours ago, Caroline said:

Hey. Raisins are pretty good, even more in oatmeal cookies.

11 hours ago, floofer said:

Oatmeal and raisins are delicious and so are phones with no headphone jack.

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Seeing this tri-fold design reminds me of the Nokia Morph concept phone over a decade ago.

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50 minutes ago, The1Dickens said:

Seeing this tri-fold design reminds me of the Nokia Morph concept phone over a decade ago.

that trick at 0:31 would be mathematically impossible with current technology.  Once you have a curve, such as the one in the screen around the hinges of a folding design like this, you can't then bend it against that axis without breaking something.  Now, if the screen could be folded completely flat and creased like paper, then for practical purposes that issue goes away, but of course we're still quite far from that, never mind the rest of the body :P

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