Apple Updates its Mac lineup: External GPU support, Kaby lake and a new iMac Pro

[randomhkkid]

Lots of updates, mostly spec bumps. New iMac Pro. External GPU support through TB3. VR support through HTC Vive

 

iMac Pro

• Up to 18 core Xeon
• 128GB ECC RAM
• Radeon Vega - No confirmation of VR support but it'd be strange if it didn't
• 5K display
• 4x Thunderbolt 3
• Up to 4TB SSD
• 5K display, 10 bit panel
• Re-designed dual centrifugal fan thermal system
• New black peripherals
• External GPU support
• Starting at $4999
• Pictures

Spoiler

 

iMac 27

• VR support - HTC Vive support confirmed
• Up to Radeon Pro 580
• Up to 64GB RAM
• Intel Kabylake
• Up to 5K display, 10 bit panel
• Dual Thunderbolt 3
• External GPU support
• See 21" section for pictures
• Starting at $1799 for 5K

 

iMac 21

• Up to Radeon Pro 560
• Intel Iris 640 as standard
• Up to 32GB RAM
• Intel Kabylake
• Up to 4K display
• Dual Thunderbolt 3
• External GPU support
• Starting at $1099 and $1299 for 4K
• Pictures

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Portable Mac spec bumps

• Kabylake for most models
• Macbook Air gets a Mhz bump
• Pictures

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New OS: MacOS High Sierra

• Faster Javascript in Safari
• More editing tools in Photos - Edits carry over to Photoshop (Presumably that means it uses Adobe compatible layers)
• Metal2 API for Graphics - 10X draw call improvement over Metal
• External GPU support through thunderbolt 3 - Dev kit features TB3 + RX 580
• HEVC/H.265 decode and encode support
• AFS file system from iOS - Instant file duplication
• Pictures

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Done editing. Please @ mention me if I missed anything.

Sources: http://www.anandtech.com/show/11515/the-apple-wwdc-2017-live-blog

https://www.apple.com/apple-events/june-2017/

 

Edited June 5, 2017 by randomhkkid

[ProjectBox153]

It's a little more powerful than my iMac G4. 

[The Benjamins]

They also showed off Radeon Pro graphics in the standard iMac line. (555,560,570,575,580) (Not Rx)

 

@randomhkkid It is 2 TB3 on iMac and 4 TB3 on iMac Pro

[mynameisjuan]

iMac is still going to throttle like hell...especially with more packed in there with higher TDPs

[terrytek]

Yet no touchscreen option. Still going with the Surface Studio over this overhyped crap.

[ResidentRad]

1 minute ago, terrytek said:

Yet no touchscreen option. Still going with the Surface Studio over this overhyped crap.

 

1 minute ago, terrytek said:

Yet no touchscreen option. Still going with the Surface Studio over this overhyped crap.

The studio? Which doesn't use ECC memory? Which doesn't have USB-C ports? Which uses a weak GPU that is a joke for content creation? That Studio?

You realize that Professionals who are actually serious about drawing will not be buying an all in one? That Wacom still reigns supreme for dedicated drawing surfaces? The Studio is nice, don't get me wrong, but pros still blow several grand to get a dedicated tablet to draw on for a good reason. 

Honestly, calling the iMac Pro overpriced crap because it doesn't have a useless for desktop touchscreen? Really? You actually touch your desktop monitors? Your arms don't get fatigue from doing that?

Do you and people like you just like making shitposts about Apple over nothing?

[terrytek]

Just now, ResidentRad said:

 

The studio? Which doesn't use ECC memory? Which doesn't have USB-C ports? Which uses a weak GPU that is a joke for content creation? That Studio 

yes that studio. i can always get usb type a to type c, i don't really care about usb type c. i still think the new imac is a joke.

[ResidentRad]

Just now, terrytek said:

yes that studio. i can always get usb type a to type c, i don't really care about usb type c. i still think the new imac is a joke.

 

Okay understood, you're just gonna hate the Apple product no matter what.

You should care. The Studio has no USB-C and NO THUNDERBOLT 3. Its a dead weight for future upgrades or expandability. 

 

The iMac Pro is actually using WORKSTATION hardware, not consumer nonsense. I don't know how you can say the iMac Pro is overpriced. Start pricing out 5K monitors and SSDs and Vega cards and ECC memory and  10Gb NICs and everything else a pro would actually give a shit to use. I swear, you fanboys are something else

[The Sloth]

10 minutes ago, ResidentRad said:

The studio? Which doesn't use ECC memory?

irrelevant for the audience, no one cares, especially at the pro market  

 

10 minutes ago, ResidentRad said:

weak GPU that is a joke for content creation?

980m is capable enough for GPU accelerated task, the main task of the surface pro, it's better than overheating. 

[WMGroomAK]

Should be interesting to see how they decide to price this...  Best guesses in USD? (Mine are below)

 

iMac Pro: >$3500

iMac 27: >$2500

iMac 21: >$2000

 

About the best thing that I can see is it appears the Pro will be one of the first systems released to the public with Vega...

[ResidentRad]

Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

irrelevant for the audience

,

no one cares, especially at the pro market  

 

980m is capable enough for GPU accelerated task, the main task of the surface pro, it's better than overheating. 

Pros don't care about error correcting memory? Wat? Lol. Content creators and editors actually od care about having that kind of memory. FFS thats what the pro market needs. 

 

980m? Compared to a 11 teraflop single precision workstation card? 

Holy shit, how deep are you guys going to reach to shit on the iMac Pro and defend the poor value in the Studio? 

[AG1233]

1 hour ago, WMGroomAK said:

Should be interesting to see how they decide to price this...  Best guesses in USD? (Mine are below)

 

iMac Pro: >$3500

iMac 27: >$2500

iMac 21: >$2000

 

About the best thing that I can see is it appears the Pro will be one of the first systems released to the public with Vega...

Imac pro base model is 5000$

[WMGroomAK]

Just now, AG1233 said:

I mac pro base is 5000$

Yep, Just updated after I posted.   Good to see that Apple doesn't disappoint in their pricing...

[TGaming100]

The 4TB SSD option is good to hear. I use my iMac for capturing gameplay from my gaming rig and streaming it so that is a big help for me personally. And the fact that they also added an upgraded SDXC card slot will be good for me because I use my iMac as an editing machine for videos.

[The Sloth]

Just now, ResidentRad said:

Pros don't care about error correcting memory? Wat? Lol. Content creators and editors actually od care about having that kind of memory. FFS thats what the pro market needs. 

BS, most "pros" don't use ECC memory, they are highly specialized, most tasks can't take advantage of it. 

 

1 minute ago, ResidentRad said:

980m? Compared to a 11 teraflop single precision workstation card? 

good enough for acceleration

 

1 minute ago, ResidentRad said:

Holy shit, how deep are you guys going to reach to shit on the iMac Pro and defend the poor value in the Studio? 

couldn't care less about the studio, i was thinking more of the concept, the surface studio is a first gen product, keep that in mind. this iMac will overheat causing serious issues for the "pros" who buy them. 

[captain cactus]

2 minutes ago, WMGroomAK said:

Yep, Just updated after I posted.   Good to see that Apple doesn't disappoint in their pricing...

Remember, that just gets you an 8-core.

 

You can sell your arm, leg, kids and house for the 18-core. Also, that's one hell of an underclock on the Vega GPU in here if it only does 22 TFLOPs HP when the stock version AMD has themselves does 25 TFLOPs.

[Hunter259]

Someone show me a more powerful all-in-one. That is one hell of a device. Now to see if it thermal throttles.

[NickTheMajin]

1 minute ago, Hunter259 said:

Someone show me a more powerful all-in-one. That is one hell of a device. Now to see if it thermal throttles.

 

They cant. Some people will hate apple no matter what they do. 

[Mr.Meerkat]

15 minutes ago, randomhkkid said:

Up to RX 560

Pro=/=RX  

 

You'll probably want to change it. 

[ResidentRad]

1 minute ago, nerdslayer1 said:

BS, most "pros" don't use ECC memory, they are highly specialized, most tasks can't take advantage of it. 

 

good enough for acceleration

 

couldn't care less about the studio, i was thinking more of the concept, the surface studio is a first gen product, keep that in mind. this iMac will overheat causing serious issues for the "pros" who buy them. 

Good god, Apple goes out and actually builds a workstation class desktop packing a 5K display and a proper SP GPU for accerlated tasks with a Xeon for rendering and editing and anything else professionals would care to need and people are actually giving them shit for going out and doing that and checking of all the boxes for a workstation class device? 

This is amazing. Y'all just need any excuse to give Apple shit. Too expensive, too weak, too useless, pros wont actually use it; what other excuses? 

If Razer made this, you all would cream yourselves and Linus would spend the next 6 months waxing poetry over its existence. 

[Wyzzy Moon]

that black is so sexy on an Imac an the keyboard and mouse

[The Sloth]

Just now, ResidentRad said:

If Razer made this, you all would cream yourselves and Linus would spend the next 6 months waxing poetry over its existence. 

razer? you mean that poor thermal design, poor quality control, poor customer service machines? you haven't spend any time on the forum. 

 

1 minute ago, ResidentRad said:

This is amazing. Y'all just need any excuse to give Apple shit. Too expensive, too weak, too useless, pros wont actually use it; what other excuses? 

that's why i use a late 2013 15 inch D-GPU maxed out MacBook pro retina

 

1 minute ago, ResidentRad said:

Good god, Apple goes out and actually builds a workstation class desktop packing a 5K display and a proper SP GPU for accerlated tasks with a Xeon for rendering and editing and anything else professionals would care to need and people are actually giving them shit for going out and doing that and checking of all the boxes for a workstation class device? 

 not really, it's not good as you think especially if you look into it. thermal throttling is not apricated in a workstation computer. 

[Jito463]

4 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

BS, most "pros" don't use ECC memory, they are highly specialized, most tasks can't take advantage of it. 

The "tasks" don't need to "take advantage of" ECC memory, that's all handled internally by the system.  Whether the tasks would require ECC memory or not, is a different argument altogether.

 

On topic, that's some pretty impressive stats for an all-in-one.  Overpriced, in my opinion (as is typical of Mac), but to fit all of that in a slim case is still impressive.  And I'm not even a fan of Apple (I've never owned one, and I likely never will).

[The Benjamins]

19 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

They also showed off Radeon Pro graphics in the standard iMac line. (555,560,570,575,580) (Not Rx)

 

@randomhkkid It is 2 TB3 on iMac and 4 TB3 on iMac Pro

@randomhkkid ^ missed this

[Drak3]

3 minutes ago, ResidentRad said:

The Studio is nice, don't get me wrong, but pros still blow several grand to get a dedicated tablet to draw on for a good reason. 

Yes, either because the 980M isn't enough for them, which isn't the majority, or they're already running a higher end system already and can't/won't make room for the Studio.

 

4 minutes ago, ResidentRad said:

You realize that Professionals who are actually serious about drawing will not be buying an all in one?

Unless you're running your local machine for all your rendering, AND you're rendering complex animation, the Studio has enough power for most professional artists out there. For those rendering complex animation, chances are that they can convert an existing rig to do just rendering and use a lower end Studio without any issue, or use the Studio as said pen display via remote desktop.