Study suggests Dating Apps can stop "Sexual Racism" because people shouldn't be allowed to date who they like?

[Drak3]

2 minutes ago, WereCatf said:

Absolutely, but the argument in this "study" -- read "quackery" -- is that being attracted to only certain skin-colours is racism, which....is stupid as well. Not being attracted to everyone isn't racism, so this whole argument isn't really about racism, it's just about someone spouting bullshit and seeking attention.

Basically your average SJW Tuesday.

[Ashleyyyy]

9 minutes ago, WereCatf said:

Perhaps word the option as "I lean more towards [insert skin colour here]", instead of a hard "I only want results of [skin colour]" -- this way the site would have an excuse to drop in the very occasional result who doesn't match the mentioned colour.

i'm gay. therefore i'm not interested in dating women. an option like 'i lean more towards men' would be meaningless because i'll never be interested in dating any women. 

 

same goes for skin color. if someone is only interested in dating people who are black showing them results of people who are white is meaningless. 

[WereCatf]

1 minute ago, firelighter487 said:

same goes for skin color. if someone is only interested in dating people who are black showing them results of people who are white is meaningless. 

True, but if it only happened rarely, it also really shouldn't be much of an issue. Besides, I'm not personally advocating for the option anyways, I just mentioned it as a possible alternative.

[suicidalfranco]

coming up next: gay should date transman, lesbian should date transwoman; don't like it? you're transphobic.

[shermantanker]

56 minutes ago, DVA said:

We're all black, when the lights go out. 

I'm so white I would still glow.

[poochyena]

why would you want to date a racist? The entire point of dating is to date someone similar to you, not "diverse"

[RejZoR]

Preference is not "racism". Some like blondes, some like redheads, others prefer brunettes, some like freckles, some hate them, some like Coca Cola,some like pineapple on pizza and others watch cat videos at 3am. If someone isn't into black, Asian or white partners, that's not bloody racism, it's just preference. And forcing it on people for the sake of some faux diversity is the most revolting dumb BS possible.

 

@Okjoek

The reason why "white genocide" is a an actual thing but no one wants to admit it because as soon as you mention it, dumb idiots will yell at you "omg racist nazi". Reality is, every single race out there can talk and be vocal about their race and be proud of it and all that crap, except white people. White people need to be endlessly shamed for things done by rich tiny minority of them 300+ years ago. I just find that ironic because blacks, arabs and asians are still into slavery even today and no one is shaming them for that. How come? But muh white people...

 

@Deus Voltage

Don't be so sure about the anti-sjw movements losing momentum. You only have such perception because nearly all sjw biased social networks are silencing, shadowbaning and censoring them. Not exactly a fair playing field...

[Deus Voltage]

I just read through portions of the study, which you can find here.

 

I gotta admit, it's very myopic and all over the place. It makes several claims, such as this:

 

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This process of orienting individuals away from close ties and personal networks has the potential to disrupt existing patterns of assortative mating [81], encouraging interaction between members of social groups that might have had little contact in the past.

My interpretation is that they're hinting that marriages outside family ties is potentially damaging to social structures.

 

Another claim, the one that OP put forth, is that dating (and potentially marrying) outside one's own race group is "sexually racist"

 

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Such preferences might be rightly described as sexual racism in the sense that they reflect generally racist attitudes as expressed in choice of romantic partners

 

I find this one particularly silly, they even "admit it when they say the following:

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The fact that ideals of beauty vary across time and place makes this rather obvious. Sexual preferences are historically and culturally contingent—as much the product of the social world in which one grows up as some biological imperative

 

The study overall is quite bizarre and, in my view, unrepresentative of social justice.  

[Curufinwe_wins]

1 hour ago, Syntaxvgm said:

sexual preferences are something that just are what they are and you can't help that. 

Isn't this what the gay movement had to help people understand? 

This isn't actually true though. People lie like crazy about their sexual habits. So what peoples sexual preferences actually are... yes are what they are. But that's not what we see every day or in dating sites. We see what they are willing to put forth which is very disproportionately reflective of what they believe society accepts instead of what they themselves accept.

 

Example. Studies of porn sites data indicates about 5% of men in the US (invariant of state) watch a significant about of gay porn, even as each state population's 'gay male rate' correlates very strongly with how open and accepting they are.

 

Another one is that a rather decent proportion of healthy/fit men find 'overweight' women attractive based on their porn preferences.

 

A more potentially controversial one is that women world wide (at a rate invariant by country) search for violent porn at a rate numerous times higher than men. And as this rate doesnt seem to vary with the levels of violence towards women country by country... well biology is a bitch.

 

 

Anyways... all this is just saying that if you took a system and encoded it to make a feedback loop based on the shallow feedback that humans often pretend to believe, the computer algorithms quickly learn human biases and a significant proportion of the matching pool would be excluded regardless of actual compatibility.

 

This document isnt saying, if you are white, exclude white etc. Its saying that a set minimum level of forced diversity in options is (could be) good for people to actually find what they like rather than just what they say they like.

 

 

Oh and by including more of those people you might not like, human psychology causes you to view people on the edge of acceptability more favorably, so it helps dating sites in finding more matches overall.

 

 

 

TL:DR Regardless of the framing in this article, for dating sites it isnt an SJW issue. It is a "computer deep learning is incredibly good at becoming exceptionally bigoted/racist" issue.

[Deus Voltage]

9 minutes ago, RejZoR said:

 

@Deus Voltage

Don't be so sure about the anti-sjw movements losing momentum. You only have such perception because nearly all sjw biased social networks are silencing, shadowbaning and censoring them. Not exactly a fair playing field...

I've been following the movement for quite some time (probably since 2015) and I've seen it go from a rightfully anti extremist movement (particularly after the Hugh Mangus video, which still makes me chuckle when I see it), to a reactionary machine that makes a mountain out of a pebble. 

 

As some have stated before me, it's quite the rabbit hole. At any rate, I've seen a lot of people increasingly taking distance from it on YouTube and Reddit for various reasons. Some think it has devolved into a racist movement pretending that it's not and attacking others for being ones (basically projecting). Others think that they aren't giving enough importance to social issues like healthcare and minimum wage, focusing instead on outrage against a minority of people. There are more arguments out there, but seeing things play out is quite interesting to say the least. 

[cj09beira]

29 minutes ago, Okjoek said:

inb4lock.

 

Racism is stupid.

All the people who are kept up at night about the "white race" going extinct to scary poor brown people should focus on more serious issues like healthcare, education, protectionism for our jobs, rebuilding our infrastructure with jobs programs, stop drug war, stop endless war in Afghanistan, stop giving Saudis & isrealis weapons and so much more.

 

i think those are different matters, one thing is treating others without respect which is a wrong thing to do, another is wanting to keep your race and culture alive, which is not inherently wrong, and looking at parts of Europe it is something that is happening.

4 minutes ago, suicidalfranco said:

coming up next: gay should date transman, lesbian should date transwoman; don't like it? you're transphobic.

btw that's already a thing 

 

3 minutes ago, Deus Voltage said:

I've been following the movement for quite some time (probably since 2015) and I've seen it go from a rightfully anti extremist movement (particularly after the Hugh Mangus video, which still makes me chuckle when I see it), to a reactionary machine that makes a mountain out of a pebble. 

 

As some have stated before me, it's quite the rabbit hole. At any rate, I've seen a lot of people increasingly taking distance from it on YouTube and Reddit for various reasons. Some think it has devolved into a racist movement pretending that it's not and attacking other for being ones (basically projecting). Other think that they aren't giving enough importance to social issues like healthcare and minimum wage, focusing instead on outrage against a minority of people. There are more arguments out there, but seeing things play out is quite interesting to say the least. 

at least on youtube part of the problem is that the internet favors outrage, so with time, the focus shifted from showing/proving that their arguments were wrong, to simply making fun of and reckting them, i haven't seen any move to racism, and i do follow quite a few of those anti-sjw youtubers. (if by racism you mean people being upset with characters changing race, its not racism thats bad casting) 

the healthcare problem again is a problem that is fairly up in the air so its a lot harder to make rek videos about so it shows up less often unless someone says some really wrong and we all laugh at it.

 

[ARikozuM]

Thank you, [research institution], but I'll romance whoever I'd like. I see no point in mixing every race together just because a problem has to be created. While I'm all for broadening the gene pool, doing so unnaturally and forcibly is not the way to do it. 

 

Also, looking for a THICC, busty (or not) brunette with a fiery attitude. Tsunderes need not apply.

[Deus Voltage]

10 minutes ago, cj09beira said:

i think those are different matters, one thing is treating others without respect which is a wrong thing to do, another is wanting to keep your race and culture alive, which is not inherently wrong, and looking at parts of Europe it is something that is happening.

btw that's already a thing 

 

at least on youtube part of the problem is that the internet favors outrage, so with time, the focus shifted from showing/proving that their arguments were wrong, to simply making fun of and reckting them, i haven't seen any move to racism, and i do follow quite a few of those anti-sjw youtubers. (if by racism you mean people being upset with characters changing race, its not racism thats bad casting) 

the healthcare problem again is a problem that is fairly up in the air so its a lot harder to make rek videos about so it shows up less often unless someone says some really wrong and we all laugh at it.

 

Let's take the "issue" of the "great replacement" as an example, guess who worried about that? Computing Forever and Lauren Southern. Basically, they're worried that another race is purposely and intentionally working (as a collective) to displace whites. If you don't find that racist, I don't know what is.

 

Edit: this actually brings back memories from Skyrim, although back then it was funny, but now....

[Taf the Ghost]

White Women are the least likely to date outside of their race. That's what they're trying to change via social engineering, but they're too chicken to say what the intention is.

 

Note: this isn't new information. The hierarchy of sexual relations in the USA is pretty well understood. Have some pity for the short, Asian-descended male. Unless you're rolling 7 figures, you're screwed.

[cj09beira]

1 minute ago, Deus Voltage said:

Let's take the "issue" of the "great replacement" as an example, guess who worried about that? Computing Forever and Lauren Southern. Basically, they're worried that another race is purposely and intentionally working (as a collective) to displace whites. If you don't find that racist, I don't know what is.

so what, (not confirming or denying that that's their views as i dont know) even a comunist or a nazi can be right sometimes, just because a group is framing something from their racist point of view, it doesn't mean that the thinking that there is a problem is inherently racist.

(i dont think that any race is conspiring against whites but i think that a group of economic, cultural, and politic problems are leading to with each generation being less whites in europe) could go more in detail about what i think that the problems are but its enough of derailing the topic

(pm me if you want to continue)

 

on topic: i am glad i dont use these apps, hopefully i will never need to, they seem to be the wrong approach to find someone 

[Trik'Stari]

1 hour ago, Okjoek said:

inb4lock.

 

Racism is stupid.

All the people who are kept up at night about the "white race" going extinct to scary poor brown people should focus on more serious issues like healthcare, education, protectionism for our jobs, rebuilding our infrastructure with jobs programs, stop drug war, stop endless war in Afghanistan, stop giving Saudis & isrealis weapons and so much more.

 

I'm sure you'd have told the European Jewish community the same thing in the 1930's when people were talking about "the Jewish problem".

 

For reference, we have Don Lemon on CNN recently saying

 

"We have to start doing something about them". So long as people like you ignore or even approve of comments like this, people like me will worry. Because people like me actually know history and know that shit like this cannot be ignored.

 

But by all means. Tell me how I am racist for being angry over a racist comment towards my own ethnicity.

[MadyTehWolfie]

1 hour ago, Syntaxvgm said:

It's ok to try to make people consider someone they may not have looked for, and they might find them attractive. But judging people on who they choose is wrong. You can't be like "I don't prefer black people", especially just randomly out of the blue, but you'll make your choices silently and you should not be judged. 

Sure you can. Just because you don't find the physical attributes of a race attractive doesn't mean you hate them. If you don't prefer people of a certain race your probably not going to find any of them attractive.

[MadyTehWolfie]

17 minutes ago, Deus Voltage said:

Let's take the "issue" of the "great replacement" as an example, guess who worried about that? Computing Forever and Lauren Southern. Basically, they're worried that another race is purposely and intentionally working (as a collective) to displace whites. If you don't find that racist, I don't know what is.

 

Edit: this actually brings back memories from Skyrim, although back then it was funny, but now....

Not any more racist then saying white people always put other races down and need to have their voices silenced/not taken as seriously as people of color. Sjw only care about diversity is skin not diversity if thought and that's why we'll have our God emperor Trump in 2020.

[Taf the Ghost]

2 minutes ago, Deus Voltage said:

Let's take the "issue" of the "great replacement" as an example, guess who worried about that? Computing Forever and Lauren Southern. Basically, they're worried that another race is purposely and intentionally working (as a collective) to displace whites. If you don't find that racist, I don't know what is.

The intention is to adulterate the populations, crush their native birth rates and replace enough of them such that the governments are easily controlled from a centralized position at the top. It's why they are called "Globalists". Their stated intentions are a One-World Government and the only way to accomplish that is to crush the natural instincts of self-preservation of modern societies.

 

It's a run-back of what the Soviets did by moving populations to different regions. It always allowed them to have a "Fifth Column" that would support whatever the Soviets needed done. There's a reason why the pedophile gangs in the UK are run by Muslims, but they have extremely high level protection of the British Elites. In the intermediate phase, it's called "Anarcho-Tyranny". You hit the population with Anarchy from the bottom and Tyranny from the top. 

 

However, it's not explicitly Anti-White. It's anti-Self-Rule. The Japanese are getting hit with the exact same trouble by the Western Elites, but they've not collapsed to it yet. But, like all things, what the Elites are trying to manage is the reactions that come with attempting to genocide people groups. There's a reason any place with a heavy Christian component has suddenly started going Family, God & Guns. It's simply a prelude to escalation. Hot War is coming. Forced Immigration is Invasion, which is a means of War. There are spats of deadly violence, but, for the time being, it hasn't turned into forced ethnic cleansing. In the historical context, that comes pretty soon.

 

The problem with SJWs, & most Leftists in general, is that they understand nothing of history. There's an entire collection of books written about the plans to change the Western world via changing the population from the early parts of the 1900s. Further, when the Elites turn on their people, the people eventually turn on their Elites, and, in possibly one of the stupidest moves in human history, the Western Elites have turned on the most lethal bunch of people in human history. This will end poorly for everyone, it'll have a death toll in the millions and it's utterly predictable.

[Mihle]

I personally don't care about someone's skin colour.

Don't care about someones hair colour either for that matter.

[Taf the Ghost]

1 minute ago, Mihle said:

I personally don't care about someone's skin colour.

Don't care about someones hair colour either for that matter.

I'd be careful about going to the UK. Your views on Gingers can easily cause fights.

[Deus Voltage]

2 minutes ago, MadyTehWolfie said:

Not any more racist then saying white people always put other races down and need to have their voices silenced/not taken as seriously as people of color. Sjw only care about diversity is skin not diversity if thought and that's why we'll have our God emperor Trump in 2020.

First of all, the claim that I just underlined is obviously silly (and I haven't seen others making it on the left). 

 

As to the last phrase, I'm guessing it's sarcasm (I hope), but I might be getting old.

[mynameisjuan]

Since when does not finding people attractive means you a racist. I am white and find most white girls unattractive, just because most of them are....so I am now racist against myself?

 

I feel like Chappelle

Spoiler

 

[Deus Voltage]

5 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

The intention is to adulterate the populations, crush their native birth rates and replace enough of them such that the governments are easily controlled from a centralized position at the top. It's why they are called "Globalists". Their stated intentions are a One-World Government and the only way to accomplish that is to crush the natural instincts of self-preservation of modern societies.

 

It's a run-back of what the Soviets did by moving populations to different regions. It always allowed them to have a "Fifth Column" that would support whatever the Soviets needed done. There's a reason why the pedophile gangs in the UK are run by Muslims, but they have extremely high level protection of the British Elites. In the intermediate phase, it's called "Anarcho-Tyranny". You hit the population with Anarchy from the bottom and Tyranny from the top. 

 

However, it's not explicitly Anti-White. It's anti-Self-Rule. The Japanese are getting hit with the exact same trouble by the Western Elites, but they've not collapsed to it yet. But, like all things, what the Elites are trying to manage is the reactions that come with attempting to genocide people groups. There's a reason any place with a heavy Christian component has suddenly started going Family, God & Guns. It's simply a prelude to escalation. Hot War is coming. Forced Immigration is Invasion, which is a means of War. There are spats of deadly violence, but, for the time being, it hasn't turned into forced ethnic cleansing. In the historical context, that comes pretty soon.

 

The problem with SJWs, & most Leftists in general, is that they understand nothing of history. There's an entire collection of books written about the plans to change the Western world via changing the population from the early parts of the 1900s. Further, when the Elites turn on their people, the people eventually turn on their Elites, and, in possibly one of the stupidest moves in human history, the Western Elites have turned on the most lethal bunch of people in human history. This will end poorly for everyone, it'll have a death toll in the millions and it's utterly predictable.

 

The first 3 paragraphs are not based on scientific studies and analysis, merely conspiratorial thinking. To quote Hitchens, "claims without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."

 

The last paragraph you made is a blatant generalization and is not corroborated by academics or scientific/ empirical studies. I honestly thought you were being sarcastic at the beginning, but as I've stated earlier, I could be getting old. 

[DrMacintosh]

1 hour ago, AluminiumTech said:

At this point it's some people trying to force diversity into dating just like they're tried to force diversity into other things .

 It’s not what’s happening in this case at all. The framing of the article is that people tend to stay in their bubble. Creating a platform that encourages exploration and experimentation is not “forcing diversity.” “Forcing diversity” would be only matching people from one race to people of another race. 

 

What these platforms are saying is, “hey, there are other people out there. Maybe some of them are hot too!”

 

1 hour ago, AluminiumTech said:

Because apparently they think you shouldn't be allowed to date someone of the same race or smh.

And who is saying that? It looks like only you tbh. Trying to encourage people to expand their horizons is not the same as telling them who and who they cannot be with. 

 

The framing of your position is in poor taste imo.