AMD might announce their new CPU lineup on Tuesday

[IAmAndre]

Source: https://www.techspot.com/news/77241-amd-next-horizon-revealed-major-event-tuesday.html

 

AMD has a new event planned for Tuesday, called "Next Horizon." Considering that the one in which they announced the original Ryzen lineup was named "New Horizon," this could mean the announcement of the Zen 2 processors.

 

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What is significant about it though, is that when AMD announced the original Ryzen, they called that event “New Horizon.” It would make sense that the “Next Horizon” is the next Ryzen. And as Anandtechpoints out, the fact that the listing is on the Investor Relations website is also very informative. In America, companies are required by law to reveal when significant announcements are going to be made at least a few days in advance.

The announcement would have to be a pretty big deal to trigger that law. Although, it is possible that it doesn’t relate to Ryzen but is focused on the server market instead. In last week’s earnings conference call, AMD CEO Lisa Su revealed that there would be something regarding the data center industry revealed.

This would make a lot of sense as it would explain the recent price drops on the current Ryzen CPU's. I'll personally wait a little bit before upgrading my rig.

 

[Nicnac]

it was a zen reveal last time but I believe this time Next Horizon is gonna be about Epyc chips only.

[Cyberspirit]

That's nice to know. Have there been any leaks so far?

[ignaloidas]

I think that this is going to be for Epyc only. I don't see enough leaks for an Zen 2 reveal. My Zen 2 leak thread is almost dead because of silence.

[Mihle]

It must only be Epyc. Zen 2 for consumers is still too far away.

[Okjoek]

Out of curiosity, would Zen 2 be on AM4 and still be using DDR4?

[sazrocks]

10 minutes ago, Okjoek said:

Out of curiosity, would Zen 2 be on AM4 and still be using DDR4?

Yes, with TR on TR4 and Epyc on whatever they call the epyc socket.

[IAmAndre]

51 minutes ago, ignaloidas said:

I think that this is going to be for Epyc only. I don't see enough leaks for an Zen 2 reveal. My Zen 2 leak thread is almost dead because of silence.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the RX480 came as a surprise too

[Humbug]

Isn't this going to be about the 7nm Vega data centers parts?

[Canada EH]

2 hours ago, IAmAndre said:

Zen 2 processor.

No worries, in this camp we are good for another 10-15 years

[Taf the Ghost]

Rome & Vega 20 (the 7nm part). Would not expect Ryzen 3rd gen information.

[Taf the Ghost]

2 hours ago, Okjoek said:

Out of curiosity, would Zen 2 be on AM4 and still be using DDR4?

2020 is the earliest we'd see DDR5. There's no production of it yet. Starts in the middle of 2019 from the last schedule I've seen.

 

AMD signed a super computer deal for Late 2020 with Zen3/Milan and it's thought that is DDR5.

[DrMacintosh]

Is AMD going to make me watch their event while I'm dropping off my Ballot? Lol

[S w a t s o n]

It's going to be Zen 2, which is in effect Ryzen 3 other than the exact skus. We'll see those in late 2019. Expect something about 64 cores

[GDRRiley]

10 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Is AMD going to make me watch their event while I'm dropping off my Ballot? Lol

yes, they know its a good use of time sitting there. 

[GoldenLag]

5 minutes ago, S w a t s o n said:

It's going to be Zen 2, which is in effect Ryzen 3 other than the exact skus. We'll see those in late 2019. Expect something about 64 cores

If its details about Zen 2 and how the chip layout it will give a pinpoint to Ryzen 3.

 

Believe there was talk/speculation of a 14nm controller die and 2 7nm dies. Probably just going to be single die, but if the 7nm chiplets dont contain any controller logic we know we will see a controller die on Ryzen. The question is if they want to spend money on a 14nm Die on Ryzen.

[yian88]

aaaaaaaaaaaa 

 

My  body is ready!!!!!!!

[cj09beira]

 

12 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

If its details about Zen 2 and how the chip layout it will give a pinpoint to Ryzen 3.

 

Believe there was talk/speculation of a 14nm controller die and 2 7nm dies. Probably just going to be single die, but if the 7nm chiplets dont contain any controller logic we know we will see a controller die on Ryzen. The question is if they want to spend money on a 14nm Die on Ryzen.

they would have too, i am more worried about the latency penalties from having the memory controller in another die 

[Humbug]

38 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Rome & Vega 20 (the 7nm part). Would not expect Ryzen 3rd gen information.

Yes, Rome and Vega 20 are the high margin parts, which they can sell at high prices and make money off even when the 7nm yields are not good yet.

 

Once 7nm ramps up then we can expect the mass market stuff like Ryzen and Navi, those have to be price competitive with Intel and Nvidia while still making money for AMD.

[Taf the Ghost]

33 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

If its details about Zen 2 and how the chip layout it will give a pinpoint to Ryzen 3.

 

Believe there was talk/speculation of a 14nm controller die and 2 7nm dies. Probably just going to be single die, but if the 7nm chiplets dont contain any controller logic we know we will see a controller die on Ryzen. The question is if they want to spend money on a 14nm Die on Ryzen.

The 7nm part with the cores should be what we're getting with Ryzen 3rd gen. It might, however, have significant chunks disabled in the Epyc 2 configuration. The one actual leak with any information about the +1 die's nature was that the platform will have some GenZ technology in it. I speculate that the +1 die is more like a Network Switch than an actual Central Hub that everyone is thinking about.

20 minutes ago, cj09beira said:

 

they would have too, i am more worried about the latency penalties from having the memory controller in another die 

We don't know if the IMC is actually on the +1 die. AMD has a bunch of patents sitting out there about cache coherence and other details that point to there being interesting solutions for the potential problem. However, the place that matters most is on Desktop. 64 core server parts are going to care a lot more about memory bandwidth, but the +1 die could be doing some interesting things with establishing a shared memory space via the controller actually on the die.

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[zheega]

We will most likely see new Zen2 EPYC chips announced. The good thing is that it should be easy to estimate Ryzen 3-series performance from Zen2-based EPYC chips.

[leadeater]

4 hours ago, Nicnac said:

it was a zen reveal last time but I believe this time Next Horizon is gonna be about Epyc chips only.

I doesn't really matter which it is, talk about anything Zen based and you're talking about both, directly or indirectly .

[leadeater]

2 hours ago, Taf the Ghost said:

2020 is the earliest we'd see DDR5. There's no production of it yet. Starts in the middle of 2019 from the last schedule I've seen.

 

AMD signed a super computer deal for Late 2020 with Zen3/Milan and it's thought that is DDR5.

Wonder if we'll get a semi quick Zen2+ that has both DDR4 and DDR5 support or just DDR5 support. It's just so damn close to DDR5 it's a shame not to be able to use it right away. If we're really lucky Zen 2 actually does have support for both, with new motherboard required for DDR5 when they come available.

[Nicnac]

2 minutes ago, leadeater said:

I doesn't really matter which it is, talk about anything Zen based and you're talking about both, directly or indirectly .

We'll definitely be able to draw conclusions toward Consumer Ryzen. Just saying that it might be very enterprise focused this time