Why did the headphone jack cross the road? OnePlus says it's due to the in-display finger scanner

[D13H4RD]

8 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

For crying out loud, the Galaxy S5 was water resistant too, and that phone had a removable battery (the entire back came off).

Ah yes, I remember. They added a rubber gasket on the cover alongside a flap on the USB port to give it a pretty good IP67 rating. And it actually was quite resistant provided you properly close the flap and cover. 

 

There was one problem though. A lot of the phones with removable backs I own did one thing when dropped; Their backs popped off, presumably by design. Probably good to prevent further, worse damage, but it also has a bit of a side effect.

 

If you dropped an S5 onto a wet surface and the back pops off, well, rip. Though if it's inside a case, it'll probably be fine. 

[Nowak]

7 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

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Yup. It's entirely possible to design a phone and have it be waterproof even with a headphone jack - or even a removable back.

[D13H4RD]

8 minutes ago, NowakVulpix said:

Yup. It's entirely possible to design a phone and have it be waterproof even with a headphone jack - or even a removable back.

That’s why engineering exists. You engineer your way around the problem to create a solution. 

 

Remember when Boeing said they can’t go faster than the 707? Look what Convair did.

[Nowak]

2 minutes ago, D13H4RD2L1V3 said:

That’s why engineering exists. You engineer your way around the problem to create a solution. 

"Hey, look buddy. I'm an engineer. That means I solve problems."

[D13H4RD]

3 minutes ago, NowakVulpix said:

"Hey, look buddy. I'm an engineer. That means I solve problems."

"Ah solve practical problems" 

[Nowak]

7 minutes ago, D13H4RD2L1V3 said:

"Ah solve practical problems" 

"But not problems like, "What is beauty?", because that would fall within the purview of your conundrums of philosophy.

I solve practical problems."

[jagdtigger]

1 hour ago, D13H4RD2L1V3 said:

Though if it's inside a case, it'll probably be fine. 

What kind of idiot does not have a case on its phone?

[Bouzoo]

5 minutes ago, jagdtigger said:

What kind of idiot does not have a case on its phone?

I know a lot of people, and many of them are in much better conditions than mine for which I always have a quite a big case. Some people are more competent in this regard.

[Bouzoo]

5 hours ago, dizmo said:

Probably just a better sensor. IIRC the first batch really weren't that good, and even the ones in there now, while working, aren't the best either.

I really hope the ones Samsung will be using won't take up too much space, or they put more effort into fitting everything into the device.

I'd almost guarantee that their folding phone doesn't have a headphone jack, though.

According to reports, this new sensor that will probably be used in 6T is about 50% accurate in some cases, which is more than underwhelming. 

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/RDRv3/status/1040318264860000256?s=19

[jagdtigger]

2 minutes ago, Bouzoo said:

I know a lot of people, and many of them are in much better conditions than mine for which I always have a quite a big case. Some people are more competent in this regard.

They probably do not use it that much then. My S5 had(and still) a thick rubber case + a glass screen protector from day one and its biggest aesthetic problem is the aging anti-slip coat coming off the back cover...

[Bouzoo]

Just now, jagdtigger said:

They probably do not use it that much then. My S5 had(and still) a thick rubber case + a glass screen protector from day one and its biggest aesthetic problem is the aging anti-slip coat coming off the back cover...

It's weird how it can differ, few use it more than me. It confuses me. 

[spartaman64]

The thing is when manufacturer stopped including vga/serial/parallel ports few devices that are being made used them and they already became obsolete. Afaik the vast majority of headphones still use 3.5mm. ports should stop being included when they become obsolete and not the other way around.

[jagdtigger]

17 minutes ago, spartaman64 said:

few devices that are being made used them and they already became obsolete

I wouldnt call it obsolete when many devices still have it(although its internal in most cases, except business/industrial grade stuff)...

[YoloSwag]

23 hours ago, D13H4RD2L1V3 said:

The funny thing is that I based the title on a tweet that Carl Pei tweeted out before the OnePlus 5 launched.

 

 

Wow someone who sites sources even for jokes! amazing... looking forward to more feeds from you!

[dizmo]

8 minutes ago, D13H4RD2L1V3 said:

Those don't need a visual cue if I remember 

I can't imagine it would, being ultrasonic. However who knows what kind of sensor it needs...only time will tell.

For now I'm excited about the performance of the Mate20 series, and the Nokia phones.

[Sky Spark]

Apple removed the headphone jack before everyone else for one reason. To make money off of their proprietary dongles and wireless earpods.

[zrmaxwell]

No headphone jack which leaves LG & Samsung to duel it out to see who gets rid of it first lol 

 

https://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_6t_now_gets_portrayed_inside_a_bunch_of_cases_35mm_jack_confirmed_to_be_missing-news-33620.php

 

I just thought this was pretty interesting is all. 

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[mr moose]

5 hours ago, Celli said:

Apple removed the headphone jack before everyone else for one reason. To make money off of their proprietary dongles and wireless earpods.

from three pages ago:

 

On 10/3/2018 at 9:54 PM, LAwLz said:

I wonder how many people realize that several phone manufacturers had already released phones without headphones jacks before Apple did.

Hell, I am fairly sure even Intel made a statement that they want to move away from the headphone jack before Apple dropped it.

 

Just another example of the entire industry moving one way, Apple following along and then all of a sudden "everyone copies Apple".

 

 

Here is a news thread about Intel wanting to replace the headphone jack with USB type C.

This was in April 2016. 4.5 months before Apple announced their first iPhone without a headphone jack in September 2016. The same thread also mentions the LeEco smartphone which did not have a headphone jack.

 

But hey, if manufacturers start doing something almost half a year before Apple does, and then Apple decides to do it too, then clearly everyone is just copying Apple...

 

[avg123]

On 10/3/2018 at 7:41 AM, dgsddfgdfhgs said:

why did no one notice SOUND QUALITY of wireless headphones is much WORSE than wired headphones

No, its not. Especially with aptx-HD and LDAC. Good quality bluetooth headphones sound just as good as wired headphones. 

 

I am sure the best sounding headphone that exists on earth is a wired headphone. But 99.999999% of us cannot afford that. 

 

But in the price range that most people buy headphones, bluetooth headphones can sound just as good as the wired headphones.

 

But you have to keep in consideration at this time, a bluetooth headphone is more expensive than a wired headphone. So to get the same sound quality of say, a $100 wired headphone, you have to buy a more expensive bluetooth headphone. Dont expect a $100 bluetooth headphone to sound as good as a $100 wired headphone.

 

 

[MoonSpot]

13 hours ago, avg123 said:

Dont expect a $100 bluetooth headphone to sound as good as a $100 wired headphone.

And that alone is enough of a reason to call forcing people into bluethooth the bullshit that it is.  The baldfaced lies/excuses as for why they 'have' to drop the jack are just insulting to hear.

[D13H4RD]

1 hour ago, avg123 said:

No, its not. Especially with aptx-HD and LDAC. Good quality bluetooth headphones sound just as good as wired headphones. 

Honestly depends.

 

Their bitrate is high but it still isn't high enough to deliver truly lossless playback since some compression is still necessary to stream it over Bluetooth, which in the case of my 1000XM2, is BT v4.2

 

Audio quality is also heavily dependent on the quality of the DAC and amp either in the phone or the headphones alongside the speaker drivers.

[Drak3]

8 hours ago, avg123 said:

No, its not. Especially with aptx-HD and LDAC. Good quality bluetooth headphones sound just as good as wired headphones

$20 Skullcandy buds sound better than the best wireless headphones.

[avg123]

14 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

$20 Skullcandy buds sound better than the best wireless headphones.

Here is a review of Bluetooth audio transmission by an actual audiophile. Its a long video but worth it.

 

 

[Drak3]

8 minutes ago, avg123 said:

Its a long video but worth it

No, it's not. It's a waste of time.

10 minutes ago, avg123 said:

by an actual audiophile.

That's not much of a reason to consider him an expert. From what I've seen, most "audiophiles" are idiots that buy into marketting.

 

 

My personal headphones is a pair of Vmoda Crossfade  2 Wireless. Wired, they're phenominal. Wireless in a faraday cage ( no interference), they sound worse that Skullcandy buds, both of which sound better than Airpods.