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Why did the headphone jack cross the road? OnePlus says it's due to the in-display finger scanner

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10 hours ago, OnyxArmos said:

I totally agree with you ^^ If it means that phones become easier to waterproof and more exciting technology can be added, I don't mind at all

My S8 has exciting technology despite having a headphone jack.

 

Not only does it have IP68 water resistance that the iPhone hasn't had since 2018 (iPhone 7, 8, X and Xr are all IP67).

 

It also has wireless charging and it's got an amazing camera.


I'm calling bullshit. They didn't need to remove the headphone jack. They're just trying to strong-arm people into buying wireless headphones.

Judge a product on its own merits AND the company that made it.

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The only universe where I'm happy with the headphone jack being removed is if it's replaced by an additional USB-C port.

 

So that each device has a port they can use to charge and a port they can use for audio.

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8 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

My S8 has exciting technology despite having a headphone jack.

 

Not only does it have IP68 water resistance that the iPhone hasn't had since 2018 (iPhone 7, 8, X and Xr are all IP67).

 

It also has wireless charging and it's got an amazing camera.


I'm calling bullshit. They didn't need to remove the headphone jack. They're just trying to strong-arm people into buying wireless headphones.

AND it also drives the HD6xx's satisfactorily (to me anyways) though I usually leave them plugged in to an external DAC on my PC. 

I also dont mind the fingerprint reader where it is. It seems fairly natural to me at this point, because the S8+ fits my long skinny fingers relatively well while still having the lower corner rest in my palm. Hopefully a future S10 keeps the headphone jack because I'm running out of options.

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1 minute ago, TVwazhere said:

I also dont mind the fingerprint reader where it is. It seems fairly natural to me at this point, because the S8+ fits my long skinny fingers relatively well while still having the lower corner rest in my palm. 

Same here with the Note8

 

 My fingers are really long, so the placement of the FPS on that phone is, dare I say it, perfect. It’s at the exact position where I put my fingers.

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9 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

I also dont mind the fingerprint reader where it is. It seems fairly natural to me at this point, because the S8+ fits my long skinny fingers relatively well while still having the lower corner rest in my palm. Hopefully a future S10 keeps the headphone jack because I'm running out of options.

I am fine with it also. I had the Nexus 6P which has the reader well below my S8+ and when I go back to try it, I didnt realize how much I have to cramp my hand to get my finger naturally on the reader. I dont have that with the S8+

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I guess this is where the current smartphone industry is at right now.

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11 hours ago, Enderman said:

Headphone jacks are more of a "want" than a "need".

so are legs. You can make do in a wheelchair. 

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4 minutes ago, Syntaxvgm said:

so are legs. You can make do in a wheelchair. 

So are wheelchairs. Crawl with your arms!

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1 minute ago, Drak3 said:

So are wheelchairs. Crawl with your arms!

crawling is phone speaker wheelchair is dongle

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What is with this pay more for less 'advancement' people keep harping for?  The jack delivers superior sound, Bluetooth is more convenient for many.  Is there some reason we suddenly can't have both? 

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Just let it die already so we can have more stuff with C connector and earbuds with it to choose from. Including a great pair in flagships would be great too. 

Really there are many other things I'd like phones to keep/have/include rather. Or ditch actually. 

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2 minutes ago, MoonSpot said:

Bluetooth is more convenient for many

No, it's not. It really isn't.

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15 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

No, it's not. It really isn't.

Many isn't all, or even most.  Some people want noises in their ear while being wireless and somehow don't mind it's range and interrupts, I get it.

Don't agree personally, but not going to tell them they can't have something they want either.

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23 minutes ago, MoonSpot said:

What is with this pay more for less 'advancement' people keep harping for?  The jack delivers superior sound, Bluetooth is more convenient for many.  Is there some reason we suddenly can't have both? 

Well, I've been using wired and wireless with my Note8....which can also send audio to 2 pairs of wireless headphones.....and can play audio through its 3.5mm jack......and its USB port supports digital audio output so I can use an external USB DAC.

 

The people who say you can only pick between one or the other are the same people who thinks PATA is the same as the jack. Why settle for one or the other when there's plainly the option of having both?

 

OnePlus' mantra has always been to Never Settle. Maybe it's about time we stop settling.

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1 minute ago, D13H4RD2L1V3 said:

Note8....which can also send audio to 2 pairs of wireless headphones

Did the original ROM allow that or did they backport it? I thought it was introduced with the S9.

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3 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Did the original ROM allow that or did they backport it? I thought it was introduced with the S9.

It's been a thing ever since the Galaxy S8

 

It's a part of that phone's BT5 upgrade. It doesn't even have to be headphones. It can do one pair of headphones and a BT speaker or 2 BT speakers.

 

It's a hugely underrated feature that I find really nice to use.

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15 minutes ago, Enderman said:

Enjoy your headphone jack while it lasts, because no matter how much you try to insult me, mobile phones in the future are not going to have it.

It's a good thing I keep all my old phones.

 

I'm not going to settle for something that every manufacturer has tripped their toes on even though there are clear guidelines on how to properly implement it. Not to mention I'm still not seeing any benefit for replacing the dedicated port with a jack-of-all-trades port that is likely going to only be used for 1-2 tasks.

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4 minutes ago, YoloSwag said:

i like the creativity in your title.

The funny thing is that I based the title on a tweet that Carl Pei tweeted out before the OnePlus 5 launched.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, LordOTaco said:

You know what screw it...back to old school days

 

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Still have an old iPod Nano. Should make use of it.

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4 minutes ago, D13H4RD2L1V3 said:

Still have an old iPod Nano. Should make use of it.

I mean I'll definetely be keeping my S8+ as both a wireless device and music player when I upgrade in a bagillion years from now lol

 

 

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5 minutes ago, LordOTaco said:

I mean I'll definetely be keeping my S8+ as both a wireless device and music player when I upgrade in a bagillion years from now lol

Same with the Note8

 

None of the new phones have interested me, except the Note9 but even that's a pretty small one.

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6 minutes ago, LordOTaco said:

I mean I'll definetely be keeping my S8+ as both a wireless device and music player when I upgrade in a bagillion years from now lol

S4, S6, and the S8 can all serve well, as well as my Lumia 950XL, but i'd probably just buy a few old 80GB Zunes and through 120GB SSDs in them.

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Just now, Drak3 said:

S4, S6, and the S8 can all serve well, as well as my Lumia 950XL, but i'd probably just buy a few old 80GB Zunes and through 120GB SSDs in them.

Now that I'm thinking about it I do have an old Itouch 4th or 5th gen I can't remember that still has the headphone jack granted its only 32gb but for nothing but music that is quite alot.

 

 

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