blockchain Child porn hidden in bitcoin blockchain making it illegal to own in most jurisdictions

[Spotty]

 

I couldn't resist.

[mr moose]

21 minutes ago, RagnarokDel said:

You can fuck with it, you just need consensus from the majority of the network which is extremely hard to do.

SO:

 

1. who has majority control of bitcoin to do this?

2. If it can be traced back to the last wallet/hash/whatever can they work out who seeded it?

3. If they can't trace back to where the embedded content came from how can anyone guarantee any security in bitcoin?

 

and lastly

 

4.given the multitude of absolute comments on this forums regarding bitcoin,  I now have to ask if anyone actually understands how it works?

[RagnarokDel]

4 minutes ago, mr moose said:

 

1. who has majority control of bitcoin to do this?

1. all the miners. They vote with their hashrate.

2. it can be traced back to the wallet but that doesnt mean you can know who it was. For all you know it could have been done from a public wifi, a vpn, a pirated computer, etc.

3. Knowing where it came from which address it came from isnt hard at all. The address isnt an identifier.

 

[mr moose]

7 minutes ago, RagnarokDel said:

1. all the miners. They vote with their hashrate.

2. it can be traced back to the wallet but that doesnt mean you can know who it was. For all you know it could have been done from a public wifi, a vpn, a pirated computer, etc.

3. Knowing where it came from which address it came from isnt hard at all. The address isnt an identifier.

 

1. do they  have to work together  in order to manipulate a blockchain? or is this something any one miner can do to their own block and the result will just perpetuate through out the remaining chain?

 

3. until they try to cash in or out their coin. or they transfer coin to other monitored known wallets.

[Brooksie359]

1 hour ago, RagnarokDel said:

1. you are wishing for the proliferation of child pornography. What the fuck.

2. Thousands of people work in the cryptocurrency sector. You are wishing for them to lose their jobs because of what? You're salty you cant buy a GPU and you're using a 6 month old one?

You can fuck with it, you just need consensus from the majority of the network which is extremely hard to do.

1. I would like to point out that the FBI uses cp sites to lure in criminals and stops them so this isn't that much different if you think about it. This could lead to the downfall of cryptocurrency which is used for illegal dealings all the time.                      

2. Saying that you shouldn't want something to stop because people make money off it and that they would lose their job is kinda a dumb argument as you could use that argument with anything from being a fast food worker to arms dealer. Cryptocurreny in it's current form is a massive waste of resources and honesty needs to end in my opinion. They waste so much are materials in graphics cards and suck up so much energy that their is graphics card shortages and powergird issues. And for what? So people can have transactions that are decentralized and unreadable? At the end of the day crypto currency causes much more harm than good and I for one think it should stop. If This is the only way for that to happen then so be it.

[Energycore]

3 hours ago, SC2Mitch said:

So holding child porn is considered legal in SOME jurisdictions?

 

3 hours ago, WhatsTheHappyHaps said:

Ummm... I guess there's some places where there aren't any (enforced) laws. But, no, good point.

It is legal in any place that does not have a law explicitly saying that it's not.

 

One would hope that this means nowhere

[Cole5]

1 hour ago, RagnarokDel said:

1. you are wishing for the proliferation of child pornography. What the fuck.

2. Thousands of people work in the cryptocurrency sector. You are wishing for them to lose their jobs because of what? You're salty you cant buy a GPU and you're using a 6 month old one?

You can fuck with it, you just need consensus from the majority of the network which is extremely hard to do.

1) No

2) "Work" How many pay taxes? I'll guess very very few, Crypto mining produces nothing, Actively takes people off of projects that use similar resources, an burns immense energy, Plus i use Consoles and a laptop, this boom hasent effected me any 

[SpaceGhostC2C]

1 hour ago, RagnarokDel said:

2. Thousands of people work in the cryptocurrency sector. You are wishing for them to lose their jobs because of what? You're salty you cant buy a GPU and you're using a 6 month old one?

I don't necessarily share the position of the person you were replying to. However, as others explained, that's not a good argument. There will be activities you deem acceptable and activities you'd be happy if they disappear (like the very one that motivates this thread), and all of them generate some business around them. How many people work in the tobacco industry? Yet if everyone stops smoking and the industry collapses I won't be particularly sad (and that's an example where everything is legal right now, and no law change takes place).

So, you may like or dislike an industry, and you may want it to thrive or sink, but how many people work in it isn't a counter-argument.

 

1 hour ago, RagnarokDel said:

1. all the miners. They vote with their hashrate.

What does the distribution of hashrates look like?

 

[BachChain]

Not to stay on topic or anything but, if I run a node, could I be prosecuted

[Psittac]

This is apparently a troll post

 

Anyways, random comment: I find it difficult to watch any porn these day's for several reasons.  Most recently there are few women my age (late 30's) who partake in the field.  Typically I feel like they're all to young even when in the mid 20's.  Don't like feeling like a creep, thinking of giving up porn entirely.  Actually been working on getting it out of my life.

[vorticalbox]

11 hours ago, Notional said:

So not only does cryptocrap destroy the consumer gaming gpu market, cause massive pollution, works as a ponzi scheme, is used for money laundring and crminal activites, now it also blesses the world with child porn? Crypto currency is basically as good for the world as ISIS at this point.

Blesses? If anything your just spreading the file across millions of people making it easy to be caught. Plus they have had tor for years.

 

9 hours ago, Sierra Fox said:

If a stranger in Mexico handed you a briefcase, didn't tell you what was in it and just told you

This is why you use letters. Your not in legal possession of the contents until you open it.

[Kukielka]

Most people don't store the blockchain on their pc, it's way too large to sync at a reasonable time.

Pretty much everyone uses lightwallets, so yeah. Most don't care. lol

[LAwLz]

5 hours ago, mr moose said:

4.given the multitude of absolute comments on this forums regarding bitcoin,  I now have to ask if anyone actually understands how it works?

99% of this forum doesn't understand anything about computers beyond "a higher number of FPS means it is better". 

I doubt even 1% of the comments made regarding bitcoins here has anything more than a surface level of understanding how to use them, much less how the protocol works.

 

3 hours ago, Psittac said:

Anyways, random comment: I find it difficult to watch any porn these day's for several reasons.  Most recently there are few women my age (late 30's) who partake in the field.  Typically I feel like they're all to young even when in the mid 20's.  Don't like feeling like a creep, thinking of giving up porn entirely.  Actually been working on getting it out of my life.

You're not using the correct keywords.

[Nicnac]

people are so messed up.....

[LAwLz]

My two cents is that this is fairly irrelevant. You can hide files within files in pretty much any format.

For example you can embed arbitrary data inside a jpeg. If someone started embedding child porn inside meme pictures, should unsuspecting downloaders be charged for it?

 

Let's take this thread as an example. If I embedded a child porn image within my profile picture, would that make everyone in this thread guilty of possessing child porn? Would it make sense to make .gifs illegal, or forums as a whole?

Of course not, because intention is an extremely important part of legal cases like this.

[MyName13]

How do you add data to a blockchain?Don't they only hold transaction information?

[Wolther]

I can see it as aiding in the criminal’s distribution of illegal media, but I can not see it as being in possession of said media. 

 

[yian88]

makes you wonder how many other ways people are storing child porn thats not detectable, maybe in those ads maybe in comments on facebook or blogs or something like that when you add them up you get the data back, shieet

[RollTime]

13 hours ago, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

I say let it burn. Here's hoping they arrest all the miners

Maybe then we'll get fair GPU prices.

[Blademaster91]

22 hours ago, LAwLz said:

My two cents is that this is fairly irrelevant. You can hide files within files in pretty much any format.

For example you can embed arbitrary data inside a jpeg. If someone started embedding child porn inside meme pictures, should unsuspecting downloaders be charged for it?

 

Let's take this thread as an example. If I embedded a child porn image within my profile picture, would that make everyone in this thread guilty of possessing child porn? Would it make sense to make .gifs illegal, or forums as a whole?

Of course not, because intention is an extremely important part of legal cases like this.

It isn't so much about the intent,then again crypto is obviously popular for such nefarious practices, but more of ethics and using crypto is possibly aiding in criminal activity and still distributing illegal stuff. Nothing to do with a profile picture for example unless it gets shared around with someone knowing whats hidden in it. I'd rather stick to regulated currency backed with economic value, all of the awful things people are doing with these worthless coins and the pollution as well makes me despise it even more.

 

[bcredeur97]

Being you have to do quite a lot of work because the images are split across a bunch of transactions -- I don't really see the big deal.

It's no different from the current situation. If you really want them -- you have to work for them. It's all kinda on you...

[JoostinOnline]

I only understand the very basics of cryptocurrency, but I don't get how this is possible. I thought, due to its encryption and decentralized nature, a single person couldn't modify a blockchain. If you could, wouldn't that mean it would be possible to generate as many bitcoins as you wanted in an instant? 

[colonel_mortis]

The purpose of this topic is to discuss the implications of child porn being hidden in the bitcoin blockchain, not to debate the merits of cryptocurrencies themselves. Please stay on topic, otherwise your posts may be removed or the topic may be locked.

[Tellos]

This continues to prove the issue with Crypto currancies, it proves security is lax no matter what fabouls claims are made by those producing these currancies. Now they can be used to pass data privately around and conduct more illeagle stuff.  Maybe we need to look at blockchain opertunities else where and stop goign into the free money system thats going up.

[Notional]

1 hour ago, colonel_mortis said:

The purpose of this topic is to discuss the implications of child porn being hidden in the bitcoin blockchain, not to debate the merits of cryptocurrencies themselves. Please stay on topic, otherwise your posts may be removed or the topic may be locked.

Nonsense. The merits of cryptocurrency is very relevant to this specific issue existing at all. Abolishing cryptocurrencies outright, would also remove this issue as well. Discussing crypto currency in news about crypto currency is hardly off topic?