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Child porn hidden in bitcoin blockchain making it illegal to own in most jurisdictions

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According to this article in the guardian,

"Researchers from the RWTH Aachen University, Germany found that around 1,600 files were currently stored in bitcoin’s blockchain. Of the files least eight were of sexual content, including one thought to be an image of child abuse and two that contain 274 links to child abuse content...

Although court rulings do not yet exist, legislative texts from countries such as Germany, the UK, or the USA suggest that illegal content such as child abuse imagery can make the blockchain illegal to possess for all users."

 

So even holding the blockchain for mining purposes could be illegal... Ugh.

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4 minutes ago, WhatsTheHappyHaps said:

Ummm... I guess there's some places where there aren't any (enforced) laws. But, no, good point.

I'm guessing Mexico?

 

I guess that fucks up my plans of selling my 1080ti at a profit, and waiting for the next generation of GPU's thanks to Microsoft and Nvidia.

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So not only does cryptocrap destroy the consumer gaming gpu market, cause massive pollution, works as a ponzi scheme, is used for money laundring and crminal activites, now it also blesses the world with child porn? Crypto currency is basically as good for the world as ISIS at this point.

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I say let it burn. Here's hoping they arrest all the miners

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we knew they were using it to do laundering of drug money, prevent scientists from finding aliens, stop gamers from gaming with all kinds of negative effects on society, they may actually go out in the wild, and now child abuse. Way to go crypto 

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Ayyy! That’s one way to stop Crypto! Turn it’s strength into its weakness!

 

Anyone who thought crypto and block chain wasn’t going to be used for criminal activity just doesn’t understand humans very well and is blinded by feeling. 

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1 hour ago, WhatsTheHappyHaps said:

According to this article in the guardian,

"Researchers from the RWTH Aachen University, Germany found that around 1,600 files were currently stored in bitcoin’s blockchain. Of the files least eight were of sexual content, including one thought to be an image of child abuse and two that contain 274 links to child abuse content...

Although court rulings do not yet exist, legislative texts from countries such as Germany, the UK, or the USA suggest that illegal content such as child abuse imagery can make the blockchain illegal to possess for all users."

 

So even holding the blockchain for mining purposes could be illegal... Ugh.

use a light wallet, you dont actually store the blockchain then.

1 minute ago, Rune said:

Huh. Thats a pretty ingenious way of killing off crypto.

Bitcoin devs being dumb fucks they wont be willing to but they could just hard fork and remove those from the blockchain. Ethereum and other cryptos probably would.

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Well that's....pretty clever actually. If you build a fully untraceable currency it means law enforcement agencies can basically plant this kind of thing to outlaw it because well, it also means anyone else could do the same to launder money, hide child porn, etc. Meaning it was a matter of time before a more direct tie to crime was found/pushed/whatever.

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6 minutes ago, RagnarokDel said:

use a light wallet, you dont actually store the blockchain then.

Bitcoin devs being dumb fucks they wont be willing to but they could just hard fork and remove those from the blockchain. Ethereum and other cryptos probably would.

Yeah but the hit to the value of the coins would be too much.

 

The problem with a completely untraceable, completely fiat, completely uncontrolled currency is that well basically this thing is bound to happen. Why would people invest so much effort on something doomed to fail? Well I will make no judgement but I would not disagree with your judgement of the devs.

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2 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

Well that's....pretty clever actually. If you build a fully untraceable currency it means law enforcement agencies can basically plant this kind of thing to outlaw it because well, it also means anyone else could do the same to launder money, hide child porn, etc. Meaning it was a matter of time before a more direct tie to crime was found/pushed/whatever.

I believe the term is "crapflooding". Some people just do it for the laughs, but a lot of it is done intentionally by organizations that would benefit by the destruction of the platform or compromising the owners of the platform. 

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1 hour ago, Notional said:

So not only does cryptocrap destroy the consumer gaming gpu market, cause massive pollution, works as a ponzi scheme, is used for money laundring and crminal activites, now it also blesses the world with child porn? Crypto currency is basically as good for the world as ISIS at this point.

who'd have guessed when they made a currency that was to be decentralized, that it would be used for nefarious purposes

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Is anyone really surprised? With luck all of em will be hit by this, kill it off quick 

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20 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

Well that's....pretty clever actually. If you build a fully untraceable currency it means law enforcement agencies can basically plant this kind of thing to outlaw it because well, it also means anyone else could do the same to launder money, hide child porn, etc. Meaning it was a matter of time before a more direct tie to crime was found/pushed/whatever.

I don't understand how this actually works.

 

I thought the point of blockchain was that no one could fuck with it or had control over it?

 

Who exactly is "the developer" here?

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Well, unless you know that it exists and can reasonably remove it, then it's fine AFAIK.

 

One example of this is Snapchat. Snapchat stores pictures that are sent on its servers, some of which are inevitably nude pictures of people under the age of 18. However, Snapchat isn't committing a crime, since they can't feasibly sort through and remove all pictures of CP.

 

Same with sites like mega, who host lots of pirated content, but can't conceivably remove it

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4 minutes ago, Trik'Stari said:

I don't understand how this actually works.

 

I thought the point of blockchain was that no one could fuck with it or had control over it?


From the article,
"The blockchain is the open-source, distributed ledger that records every bitcoin transaction, but can also store small bits of non-financial data. This data is typically notes about the trade of bitcoin, recording what it was for or other metadata. But it can also be used to store links and files.""
 

So it seems it is possible to add comments and other data to the ledger when a transaction occurs.
I'm guessing it's for if you buy something from someone you could leave a comment with your bitcoin transaction perhaps identifying you as the buyer or other information, ie. "30x bottles of extra strength spray tan, ship to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW, Washington, DC 20500, USA".

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20 minutes ago, EPENEX said:

Eh, their choice if they wish to waste their time and money doing it. They're not doing anything inherently wrong anyways.

What are you referring to? I'm pretty sure distributing child porn is pretty illegal.

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38 minutes ago, EPENEX said:

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Well you live in the USA, according to your location. therefore the rules of the US apply to you. 

 

If a stranger in Mexico handed you a briefcase, didn't tell you what was in it and just told you to take it to another person in mexico, but at some point you crossed back into the US and got stopped by a cop and asked to see what was in the briefcase, you opened it and it was naked pictures of 15 year olds in compromising positions, do you think the authorities are going to care where it came form, where it's going to, where you obtained it, whether or not you knew it was in there? no, they care that you have it and that it's illegal where you currently are and are also a US citizen.

 

how the hell have i had to make 2 posts stating why child porn distribution is illegal in different threads in 2 days

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Weirdos ruining it for all of us. It's probably high ranking government officials honestly 

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39 minutes ago, EPENEX said:

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Parden? This statement boggles my mind. Care to elaborate further? 

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47 minutes ago, Cole5 said:

Is anyone really surprised? With luck all of em will be hit by this, kill it off quick 

1. you are wishing for the proliferation of child pornography. What the fuck.

2. Thousands of people work in the cryptocurrency sector. You are wishing for them to lose their jobs because of what? You're salty you cant buy a GPU and you're using a 6 month old one?

46 minutes ago, Trik'Stari said:

I don't understand how this actually works.

 

I thought the point of blockchain was that no one could fuck with it or had control over it?

 

Who exactly is "the developer" here?

You can fuck with it, you just need consensus from the majority of the network which is extremely hard to do.

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