AMD Ryzen 2 Pinnacle Ridge 12nm CPUs

[Guest]

This is from the Dutch tech website Tweakers so I'll throw it through the translator:

 

According to the Taiwan newspaper DigiTimes, AMD arrives in February 2018 with the first Ryzen processors made on the GlobalFoundries 12nm process. Also, new chipsets for motherboards would come. In the Ryzen 7-, 5- and 3-series new 12nm models are expected. Probably it's a refresh of current models, with minor improvements like a slightly higher clock speed. It would be about cpu's with the code name Pinnacle Ridge. DigiTimes says the information is from motherboard manufacturers. The newspaper is known for its good sources in Taiwanese brands such as Asus, Gigabyte and ASRock. The release of the 12nm processors was due to the arrival of new chipsets in March: X470 and B450. What motherboards with this chipset have to offer compared to the current X370 and B350 variants, is not yet known. Probably the new cpu will also work on the current motherboards, such compatibility has already promised AMD. AMD announced last week about moving to the 12nm procedure of GlobalFoundries for Ryzen CPUs and Vega GPUs, but did not specify when the first products were to be expected. According to DigiTimes, a refresh of Ryzen 7 comes first, followed by the cheaper models. In April a series of economical Ryzen processors will follow and in May a refresh of Ryzen Pro will be expected at 12nm. Beginning this week, a Spanish website showed an image that would show the AMD roadmap to 2019. It is not clear whether this roadmap is true and whether all information is correct. The code name Pinnacle Ridge matches the information of DigiTimes. On the roadmap, AMD will come with Zen 2 in 2019, the successor to Ryzen, which will be produced at 7 pm. The code name for that would be Matisse. Also, the roadmap that shows the Raven Ridge Apu's next year with Zen-cores and a Vega-GPU. These would have up to eight threads and the GPU would have up to eleven computing units. The RX Vega 56 and 64 video cards have 56 and 64 cu respectively. There are apu's that can be tricked into AM4 motherboards, but they also come to FP5 socket laptops.

 

 

 

Source: 

 

https://tweakers.net/nieuws/130097/amd-komt-in-februari-2018-met-refresh-van-ryzen-processors-gemaakt-op-12nm.html

 

Thoughts? If true it shouldn't bum out current Ryzen owners. Hell, we don't even know for sure if the same motherboard socket can be used but it is likely knowing AMD. 

 

[givingtnt]

nice

 

probably the same socket, but a different chipset.

[ignaloidas]

If they will update that quickly for long, intel is gonna go panic mode for sure

[PCGuy_5960]

As I said before, if this refresh can overclock to 4.5GHz+, it's going to be a hit

[The Benjamins]

This is a repost right?

 

[yian88]

AyyMD go for it , i hope it comes with 5-10% IPC improvement, 15% lower power draw, 3-400 mhz higher clock speeds and fixed all quirks of 1st gen ryzen like memory issues.

Those would be some winner cpu's for a refresh.  Even intel at its worst still had 5% improvement and 10-15% in some isolated benchmark cases.

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

If this refresh can overclock to 4.5GHz+, it's going to be a hit

I doubt it would go that far but we'll see. from how I understand it it's just some refinement here and there. 

[handymanshandle]

I wonder if by AM4 in 2019 if that means they'll update X370 boards to support Matisse

[Guest]

1 minute ago, The Benjamins said:

This is a repost right?

 

Oh woops. If it is then close it. I looked around a bit but didn't find anything resembling a title like this. 

[Princess Luna]

I hope it is true so Intel doesn't take too long on those sweet 10nm processors.

[skyler_mertz]

13 minutes ago, yian88 said:

AyyMD go for it , i hope it comes with 5-10% IPC improvement, 15% lower power draw, 3-400 mhz higher clock speeds and fixed all quirks of 1st gen ryzen like memory issues.

Those would be some winner cpu's for a refresh.  Even intel at its worst still had 5% improvement and 10-15% in some isolated benchmark cases.

Shouldnt be any IPC improvement. The table says it is still Summit Ridge architecture just a performance uplift like clock speed and power draw. Both are welcome!

[Okjoek]

AMD YES

[Drak3]

2 minutes ago, skyler_mertz said:

Shouldnt be any IPC improvement. The table says it is still Summit Ridge architecture just a performance uplift like clock speed and power draw. Both are welcome!

Minor improvements can come from node shrinks.

Improving subsystems like cache structure and IMC can also yield per clock improvements, if said subsystems bottleneck IPC at any capacity.

[Sauron]

It clearly says socket AM4 on those slides  

24 minutes ago, coolkingler1 said:

Hell, we don't even know for sure if the same motherboard socket can be used but it is likely knowing AMD.

If anything about this report is correct I don't see why the socket compatibility wouldn't be.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Sauron said:

It clearly says socket AM4 on those slides  

If anything about this report is correct I don't see why the socket compatibility wouldn't be.

Because the slides aren't confirmed 100% true afaik.

[ignaloidas]

28 minutes ago, coolkingler1 said:

Hell, we don't even know for sure if the same motherboard socket can be used but it is likely knowing AMD.

 

IIRC they promised like 4 years of CPU support for the platform

[Guest]

1 minute ago, ignaloidas said:

 

IIRC they promised like 4 years of CPU support for the platform

Yep true, but idk if that also is true for refreshes, but honestly it's likely the same socket. 

[PlayStation 2]

4 minutes ago, coolkingler1 said:

Yep true, but idk if that also is true for refreshes, but honestly it's likely the same socket. 

I can't imagine it being false, as they've done this for a while, most notably recent of which was Bulldozer to Piledriver, both on AM3+ (albeit needing BIOS updates).

[GDRRiley]

42 minutes ago, ignaloidas said:

If they will update that quickly for long, intel is gonna go panic mode for sure

it isn't an update so much as a refresh. it similar to intel going from haswell to devils cannon. 

[Taf the Ghost]

8 minutes ago, Tedny said:

waiting news for  rushing Cannonlake than, hehe 

Cannonlake is dead for Mainstream.  Icelake rush would be what Intel does, but they're locked in a bit for that schedule already.

 

Earliest we'd see the new CPUs is probably April/May. A staggered release from June through August makes the most sense. As it was, AMD rushed out the Ryzen 7. There won't be a need for a new chipset, as these are "refreshes" with maybe a some update to the IMC.

[Armakar]

First post in tech/news.

According to motherboard manufacturers (unconfirmed which ones), AMD has advised them that the "Ryzen 2" or code-name "Pinnacle" CPUs will be released February, followed by the 5 and 3 chips in March.

Lower powered chips will be ready in April (Mobile maybe) and enterprise in May.

 

400 series chipsets will be released in March, which is weird considering the CPUs are being released in February. The X470 and B450 chipsets will obviously work with these new chips, and I assume older B350 and X370 will work too, as promised by AMD.

 

Original article here : https://www.digitimes.com/news/a20170927PD212.html

 

Let's hope for better IPC and better clockspeeds?

[just_dave]

GF 14nm -> 12nm shouldn't show any major change, single core will be probably same as with current but overclocked Ryzen (160-170CB).

I am excited for the new mobos if the ol' chips will work with them.

I might buy X470 just for the lulz and hope someone will implement IR3575 (and charge a fortune for it XD)

The actual change will be with 7nm, that is a huge improvement and should tie with intel on the IPC side.

[Bananasplit_00]

well AMD said that Zen 2 would be compatible with the current motherboard IIRC, i know they said compatible with AM4, but im not 100% about the current motherboards one, only pretty sure. anyway this is great, i really hope they have gotten some work done on that IMC

[Elerek]

So lower power consumption and more OC headroom? (albeit probably minor on both)

Sounds good.

[Fardin]

right now ryzen is staying at kind of 4ghz overclocking boundary. if it increases to 4.5ghz atleast, things gonna get really interesting