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AMD Ryzen 2 Pinnacle Ridge 12nm CPUs

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Go to solution Solved by iRileyx,
Just now, JDE said:

Maybe since this is a refresh of Ryzen, and not a new architecture

More than likely. Just as its the first tech/news place I've seen call it Ryzen 2(so far anyways) I was curious if thats just their nicknaming for it, or it it actually will be called Ryzen 2.

7 hours ago, Armakar said:

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This was already posted.

 

I merged both threads.

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I think this will be a very insignificant update: Maybe 4.1 or 4.2 on the better binned chips and with some luck but mostly the same with maybe 5 to 10 watts less on TDP.

 

The bigger story will be the better yields for AMD so they might restructure the chips, adjust pricing, etc. But I wouldn't expect actual, measurable, real world differences between chips provided same clocks.

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That's amazing. Intel has been playing us for years

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10 hours ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

As I said before, if this refresh can overclock to 4.5GHz+, it's going to be a hit :D

Sorry to break your bubble, but GF 12nm LP only offers a ~10% improvement over 14nm lpp (along with a density increase). 

You might get a couple hundred mhz more, that's about it. 

10 hours ago, ignaloidas said:

If they will update that quickly for long, intel is gonna go panic mode for sure

These node naming schemes are a joke. It's basically an updated version of their existing process. Not anywhere near the improvement that a node shrink would suggest (half node). Intel got the same gains with 14nm+, yet didn't call it 12nm.

Mind you, tsmc and samsung are just as bad. 

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since these aren't zen2 cores yet I hope everybody will keep their expectations' in check. IPC will be the same.

 

still From a consumer point of view if AMD can use this to provide another 150Mhz or 200Mhz increase on max overclocks that would be big. Ryzen is already performing well in other metrics...

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5 hours ago, Cinnabar Sonar said:

The more that I think about it, the more that I realize, it's probably not just "Intel being greedy".

Although i'm sure that's a factor as well.

Intel hasn't really made any huge blunders lately, but what has happened is the overlap of a lot of little decisions right at the time that AMD is suddenly hyper-competitive. They do, however, have to make a lot of sub-optimal decisions because of the confluence of all of those events.

 

I also imagine that the first 6ish months are probably peak sales for a new motherboard line, so manufacturers might actually be happy about a "new" chipset. Especially when they can mostly refresh an old design. (2nd generation of a product is normally far cheaper to produce. Normally.)

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It's nice to know that this motherboard won't need to be replaced anytime soon.

 

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AMD has said they'd support AM4 through 2020. It just dawned on me that probably means with APUs in 2020. 2019 is probably the last year of AM4 Zen 2.0 CPUs that'll work. (2020 will have DDR5, so they'd require fairly new tech anyway.) Though those Zen 2 APUs with Navi graphics are going to be pretty impressive, when we get there.

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4 hours ago, wkdpaul said:

This was already posted.

 

I merged both threads.

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10 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

AMD has said they'd support AM4 through 2020. It just dawned on me that probably means with APUs in 2020. 2019 is probably the last year of AM4 Zen 2.0 CPUs that'll work. (2020 will have DDR5, so they'd require fairly new tech anyway.) Though those Zen 2 APUs with Navi graphics are going to be pretty impressive, when we get there.

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1 hour ago, Armakar said:

cue the "Wait for navi" memes

Haha. The kind of funny bit is that, if you're in specific professional spaces, some of the Vega cards would be mighty interesting. Especially the Vega SSG. Leave it to AMD to make the $7000USD card the most interesting of their entire product stack.

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Since when was Ryzen 2 the naming for it?

 

Zen 2 I knew of which is the next leap on the roadmap, this is the first time i've heard Ryzen 2.

If anything I imagine they'll keep copying intel's naming scheme of "Intel Core i3/i5/i7" but obviously "Amd Ryzen R3/R5/R7" and copy intel by stepping up the numbers each generation, so next will be 2600, 2700, 2800 etc.

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AMD's naming scheme always makes me laugh or cringe, in this case I find it funny they name it pinnacle since that essentially means this is their peak and they'll never be better than this xD

 

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1 minute ago, AresKrieger said:

AMD's naming scheme always makes me laugh or cringe, in this case I find it funny they name it pinnacle since that essentially means this is their peak and they'll never be better than this xD

 

What's next final ridge?

Matisse.Pinnacle Ridge is the pinnacle of the Ridge naming scheme.

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38 minutes ago, RKRiley said:

Since when was Ryzen 2 the naming for it?

 

Zen 2 I knew of which is the next leap on the roadmap, this is the first time i've heard Ryzen 2.

If anything I imagine they'll keep copying intel's naming scheme of "Intel Core i3/i5/i7" but obviously "Amd Ryzen R3/R5/R7" and copy intel by stepping up the numbers each generation, so next will be 2600, 2700, 2800 etc.

Maybe since this is a refresh of Ryzen, and not a new architecture

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Just now, JDE said:

Maybe since this is a refresh of Ryzen, and not a new architecture

More than likely. Just as its the first tech/news place I've seen call it Ryzen 2(so far anyways) I was curious if thats just their nicknaming for it, or it it actually will be called Ryzen 2.

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