Apple is revealing the Iphone 8 on the 12th of September

[79wjd]

7 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

This is only because they were saving ideas for the 8. 

 

Its a combo of the 8 being the 10th anniversary of the iPhone and the 7 being a new number but you still want the iPhone 8 to be really cool and feature packed for the 10th year anniversary. 

 

Lets face it, its going to be the single most radical upgrade to an iPhone in history. No home button, no bezels, OLED, wireless charging, 3D facial scanning, and the design itself is a pretty radical departure. These are all new for Apple.

And I get why they chose to make the 7 a refresh. But there should have been an 8 priced at the usual $650, an 8+ priced at the usual $750 ($770), and no 7s/7s+. 

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, djdwosk97 said:

And I get why they chose to make the 7 a refresh. But there should have been an 8 priced at the uual $650 and an 8+ priced at the usual $750 ($770) and no 7s/7s+. 

Remember what company we are talking about here. 

 

Margins, margins, margins, margins! 

[79wjd]

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

Remember what company we are talking about here. 

 

Margins, margins, margins, margins! 

 

25 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

Yeah, but the 7s/+ are rumored to be incremental improvements on the 7. The 8 is what the 7 really should have been in the first place. So, Apple price hiking the 8 is disappointing. 

 

[suicidalfranco]

gonna be hard to do something better than the V30, i mean: quad-freakin-DAC everywhere?! And not just a randomly picked region of the world. My mind got already blown yesterday, it'd going to be hard to top that 

[79wjd]

4 minutes ago, suicidalfranco said:

gonna be hard to do something better than the V30, i mean: quad-freakin-DAC everywhere?! And not just a randomly picked region of the world. My mind got already blown yesterday, it'd going to be hard to top that 

Unless the V30 can run iOS, it has already been beaten in my mind. 

[suicidalfranco]

8 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

Unless the V30 can run iOS, it has already been beaten in my mind. 

that's a positive to me. How can i live without all the functions i've created on Tasker through out the years since i've left the i5

[sazrocks]

21 minutes ago, suicidalfranco said:

that's a positive to me. How can i live without all the functions i've created on Tasker through out the years since i've left the i5

Then this phone is not for you.

[D13H4RD]

I’m actually interested.

 

If they can hide that cutout well, it might be my next phone 

[Trixanity]

2 hours ago, DrMacintosh said:

Apple will only make the iPhone in America when it becomes beneficial to the share holders. 

 

There is a reason people don't make stuff in America and probably never will anymore.....You can't compete with someone who will work just for food and maybe shelter!

Exactly but they'll probably move them back if or when they can be made by robots. Right now (locally speaking), some companies have given up on outsourcing manufacturing to China and moved it back home because robots and automation are available. So it's not exactly bringing back manufacturing jobs as some would try to convince us would happen.

 

Robots are better and cheaper long term while allowing you more control of manufacturing.

 

Apple wouldn't make iPhones domestically unless it was more cost effective which would require most of the assembly line to be automated.

[Toastyboi]

In a statement by a wireless charging company they said that the next "iPhone's" will have the same technology as the their products. So 70/30 chance of wireless charging on 7s, 7s Plus and 8

 

----EDIT----

Actual statement from RAVpower (Battery company and wireless charging supplier) sent to tech review company Mashable said that their first commercial wireless charging pad will be for: "Next gen Apple devices"

Edited September 1, 2017 by Catastrophic Failure

[AlTech]

3 hours ago, djdwosk97 said:

No iPhone has been subsidized at launch since carriers got rid of contracts afaik. 

I'm not sure how it is where you live but a lot of people buy phones on Contract here.

3 hours ago, djdwosk97 said:

Yeah, but the 7s/+ are rumored to be incremental improvements on the 7. The 8 is what the 7 really should have been in the first place. So, Apple price hiking the 8 is disappointing. 

^^

[mrchow19910319]

Hmmm.... I am excited for this. 

But I won't be interested buying any iphone soon. 

My SE is still hold up pretty good, got it this year only. 

 

I am excited for this event.

But I am way more pumped up for next year's mac pro revamp. 

 

I only do so many things on my phone, but mac is irreplaceable. 

[RedRound2]

4 hours ago, djdwosk97 said:

And I get why they chose to make the 7 a refresh. But there should have been an 8 priced at the usual $650, an 8+ priced at the usual $750 ($770), and no 7s/7s+. 

If you look at the early rumors that was the actual plan. But apparently production costs for the new model is much higher due to a custom OLED screen, 3D Sensing cameras, new implementation of force touch, wireless charging and 3D circuitry. Also there were alot of delays and the new model will be severly limited until next year.

 

sources here, here and here

 

But witha recent rumor, Apple is planning to introduce a 6” iphone next year and theyre well ahead of schedule due to manufacturing problems they are currently facing. This would mean that theyll be introducing an 8S Plus model next year and probably finish of the current design with 7S. And I highly doubt apple will maintain a higher price for bezelles series of phones next year as competition in smartphone industry is getting alot more intense day by day especially with the rise of cheap really good android smartphones. And I think the only  reason 7S is going to exist is because of 8’s price tag. This doesnt mean i think theyll reduce the prize to sub 600 dollars but it would probably be same as current iPhones

 

source here

 

But alas, all the haters are going to go nuts when the iPhone 8 will officially launch with a higher price tag...

[DocSwag]

7 hours ago, DrMacintosh said:

Apple has been doing this for years. Its a perfectly valid strategy. 

And considering how big a leap the "s" usually is when it comes to internal hardware, I'm pretty fine with it.

 

6s for example. A9 was an awesome SoC. 2gb ram instead of 1gb. NVMe controller which led to much better responsiveness. TBH, 6s is one of the few iPhones I would actually consider buying (partially due to it just being an awesome phone, and partially because all the android phones that year weren't great whether it was because of SD810 or other reasons)

[Dylanc1500]

I just want an internal update to the SE and I'll be happy. Keep the size and design and the price tag that comes with it.

[PlayStation 2]

Shitty political fights over a phone. Again, low expectations and you guys still manage to drop below that.

 

On topic: a lot of the rumored features of the iPhone 8 don't seem bad.

[Commodus]

6 hours ago, Trixanity said:

Exactly but they'll probably move them back if or when they can be made by robots. Right now (locally speaking), some companies have given up on outsourcing manufacturing to China and moved it back home because robots and automation are available. So it's not exactly bringing back manufacturing jobs as some would try to convince us would happen.

 

Robots are better and cheaper long term while allowing you more control of manufacturing.

 

Apple wouldn't make iPhones domestically unless it was more cost effective which would require most of the assembly line to be automated.

The funny thing is, it isn't really the cost of employment that drives it as it is flexibility.

 

China has many, many more people who have just the right level of education and experience for factory work, and their work stints may only last a few months at at time.  Facing unexpected demand for your product?  There are 3,000 qualified people who can start work at the factory today.

 

Contrast that with the US, where the people who are qualified at all tend to be overqualified.  If you have a college degree in engineering or another related field, are you going to work at a factory even if they pay you fairly well?  Probably not.  And it could take months to amass enough talent even if a company does find everyone it needs.

 

For Apple, I suspect automation is less about cost and more about this kind of flexibility.  If you have a mostly automated production line, you just have to add more machines to keep up.

[VagabondWraith]

I think I'll go with the 7s to replace my 6s. The 8 looks intriguing, but I think I want to keep my "S" cycle intact.

[79wjd]

5 hours ago, DocSwag said:

And considering how big a leap the "s" usually is when it comes to internal hardware, I'm pretty fine with it.

 

6s for example. A9 was an awesome SoC. 2gb ram instead of 1gb. NVMe controller which led to much better responsiveness. TBH, 6s is one of the few iPhones I would actually consider buying (partially due to it just being an awesome phone, and partially because all the android phones that year weren't great whether it was because of SD810 or other reasons)

Since @DrMacintosh was responding to me with that quote, I'll follow up. 

 

I don't have a problem with what Apple does with the S-models either, and I also don't have an issue with Apple holding off and making the 7 another s-model as they wanted to make the 10th anniversary the big change. So I'm fine with all of that. I'm just dissappointed that they're going to be releasing the 8 as a new tier of device. 

 

I'm more than likely going to buy a >=64gb iPhone 8 (although rumors are pointing to it being 128gb minimum), but I'm still not "happy" with the fact that it's rumored to start around $1000 instead of $750 ($770) / ($870).

 

[AnonymousGuy]

I'm probably going to procrastinate upgrading my 7+ for a few months after launch.  It'll make it easier to *buy* one too when they're in better stock.

[Keg Ops]

I'm pretty excited as sad as that sounds. 

 

I've been wanting to jump ships to iOS for a few months now, and considering how much anticipation there is for the next iPhone, I'll be down for it if it delivers.  

[DrMacintosh]

4 hours ago, djdwosk97 said:

but I'm still not "happy" with the fact that it's rumored to start around $1000 instead of $750 ($770) / ($870).

Pretty reasonable. If we could all pay less for cool stuff that would be great   

[DocSwag]

5 hours ago, djdwosk97 said:

Since @DrMacintosh was responding to me with that quote, I'll follow up. 

 

I don't have a problem with what Apple does with the S-models either, and I also don't have an issue with Apple holding off and making the 7 another s-model as they wanted to make the 10th anniversary the big change. So I'm fine with all of that. I'm just dissappointed that they're going to be releasing the 8 as a new tier of device. 

 

I'm more than likely going to buy a >=64gb iPhone 8 (although rumors are pointing to it being 128gb minimum), but I'm still not "happy" with the fact that it's rumored to start around $1000 instead of $750 ($770) / ($870).

 

TBH, I'm not happy about that high of a price tag. But at the same time, these are completely rumored things and nowhere near confirmed. So I would wait a week and a half for official confirmation.

[79wjd]

1 minute ago, DocSwag said:

TBH, I'm not happy about that high of a price tag. But at the same time, these are completely rumored things and nowhere near confirmed. So I would wait a week and a half for official confirmation.

They are rumors, but I'll be very surprised if they're not fairly accurate. 

[Jito463]

On 9/1/2017 at 0:06 AM, Shreyas1 said:

I, personally find a lack of ports disappointing.

Your post immediately made me think of something, and lo and behold someone already made the image for me.