Microsoft shares what it collectes in Windows 10 Telemetry data

[JediFragger]

At the very least use Spybot Anti-Beacon to block all Win10 telemetry (at least I fuckin hope it does!!)

[HarryNyquist]

42 minutes ago, Aurora906 said:

im sticking with W7 indefinitely.

Enjoy being flooded with viruses in 3 years!

[yian88]

16 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

1- You didn't read shit, because it includes exactly what it collects. But here is the link for Basic: https://technet.microsoft.com/itpro/windows/configure/basic-level-windows-diagnostic-events-and-fields

 

2- and 3-  B.S Just hating for hating

 

Of course it doesn't. You are closed minded. Even if there was a disable button, you would say that they collect even more than Full, because NSA, etc.

It doesnt matter if you can disable or they dont use data against us, windows 10 is still bloatware and it installs apps without me even asking, puts  in start search about products i dont want or need, and the whole store is a pile of shit that no one needs, third rate apps made by retards that are completely useless for any decent work, the whole ecosystem sucks even after all this time, i wouldnt care so much if they actually let me remove the bloatware and system resource hog's like cortana and store, telemetry nonesense, there are too many layers of crap between the hardware and the non-UWP software im running, and i dont trust microsoft anyway,they proven to not have user interest in mind, its just a corporation that wants to make tons of cash, thats their only decision factor, software is much more than that.

Until they have a single switch that completely anihilates everything they posted in that link, what they collect, and start removing bloatware and make windows user friendlier people will kepp throwing shit at MS, deal with it.

Profesionals wont be paying 200$ for win10 pro just to get invasive ads,telemetry and updates.

They used the freee win10 upgrade thing as an excuse to completely control and monitor what people are doing and make more money off it, probably gov spyware backdoors included, and if someone today buys a windows PC, or a windows copy they are served with shit that should never exist on a payed platform.

[Stefan1024]

36 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

That would be illegal.

Sure it would be unless it's "by accident" .

 

However it is a good move (but a very overdue one) form Microsoft to talk about what they are collecting and give an option to disable it.

It it should still be opt in istead of opt out.

[Aurora906]

2 minutes ago, HarryNyquist said:

Enjoy being flooded with viruses in 3 years!

When i feel the time has come to move on from W7, ill switch to linux if theres nothing better from MS.   Just so much stuff just turns me off of windows 10, aside from the privacy aspect.  It feels more catered for a smart phone than a pc.

[TheKDub]

At least it's a step in the right direction, still quite a ways to go before I'm willing to make the move though.

 

• Network capabilities and connection data such as the device’s IP address, mobile network (including IMEI and mobile operator) and whether the device is connected to a free or paid network.

I don't really see why Microsoft would need the device IP address, IMEI, or network type for "diagnostics"...

[Guest Kloaked]

50 minutes ago, Aurora906 said:

I doubt microsoft is telling everything, im sticking with W7 indefinitely.

You don't believe Microsoft is honest, so you'll keep using a Microsoft product?

[mattebad]

16 minutes ago, Murdoch said:

This is the go to argument for defending Microsoft. I get it, it seems a bit pointless to split hairs over what Microsoft is tracking, when you may well use an Android phone.

 

But, it sidesteps the actual issue. Microsoft have changed business models, they've gone down the route of trying to copy Google, and they've treated their consumers with a certain level of arrogance. The very first example of this, is trying to create a local account on your first install of Windows 10. For any competent user, it's a real smack in the face when they treat people like idiots. If you attempt to take away control of your OS and how it's used from your technically proficient users, you will alienate them, and they will push back, or move to an OS that better suits their needs.

 

 

I agree with you, competent users will get annoyed because it's another obstacle in place to use what should be seemingly basic features of windows. The problem here is that they won't move away from windows since it's the only real open platform and universally supported, while also being as simple to use as anything. If they do move, they'll probably head to Linux which is an even smaller subset of competent users. Basically, the way I see it, Microsoft hedged their bets and estimated how many people they'd lose from the userbase of windows with these changes while making it more accessible for the idiot user/masses and they determined the loss would be miniscule, otherwise, they wouldn't have done it.

[Aurora906]

3 minutes ago, Kloaked said:

You don't believe Microsoft is honest, so you'll keep using a Microsoft product?

Kind of forced to if you wanna game on pc..  Do you believe MS is honest and telling you everything?  

[HarryNyquist]

8 minutes ago, TheKDub said:

I don't really see why Microsoft would need the device IP address, IMEI, or network type for "diagnostics"...

IP can let them know what area of the world you're connecting from, and if there may be issues in that area they need to resolve. Mobile operator can indicate who they may need to contact in the event of an issue. IMEI can identify a device manufacturer that could be contacted if there's an issue.

[TidaLWaveZ]

59 minutes ago, Aurora906 said:

I doubt microsoft is telling everything, im sticking with W7 indefinitely.

Unless you haven't updated Windows 7 in quite some time, the same telemetry is present.

[TidaLWaveZ]

My question is why has it taken this long to disclose this information?

[Aurora906]

Theres the whole "cortana" thing, and not being able to uninstall it, or even turn it off.  

[shermantanker]

40 minutes ago, Aurora906 said:

You sound like a salesmen for MS.  Call me crazy, but i dont trust them.

I would trust Microsoft over Google/Facebook when it comes to privacy any day of the week.

[HarryNyquist]

2 minutes ago, TidaLWaveZ said:

My question is why has it taken this long to disclose this information?

My guess is they've been doing it forever and no one cared until someone decided to make a stink about it on the internet.

[Aurora906]

Just now, shermantanker said:

I would trust Microsoft over Google/Facebook when it comes to privacy any day of the week.

I wish i could be so naive, no offense.  I dont trust any of them,  We got smart TVs spying on us, why do you think your pc isnt?     

[TidaLWaveZ]

1 minute ago, Aurora906 said:

Theres the whole "cortana" thing, and not being able to uninstall it, or even turn it off.  

You can turn Cortana off, that whole ordeal was just MSM hype. I've had Windows 10 since early stages of the developer preview, I've had cortana disabled since day one and she's never come back and I'm on the latest version.

[TidaLWaveZ]

1 minute ago, huilun02 said:

Not hard. Bring up task manager to find Cortana's process, trace to the system file. Reboot into safe mode and replace it with a blank file of same name and extension. Set as read-only. Reboot and voila, Cortana isn't there anymore.

Can't you permanently disable from Registry as well?

[Drak3]

3 minutes ago, TidaLWaveZ said:

My question is why has it taken this long to disclose this information?

This information was available day one, if one were actually willing to look for it beyond underinformed forums, basic online helpdesks, and the sensationalist publications that have been spouting lies regarding MS privacy policy.

 

None of this is a surprise to me, but then again, I also spent a few days searching beyond sites like Forbes and PCPer, looking for original sources of information.

[Bouzoo]

1 hour ago, Princess Cadence said:

 

@Bouzoo you too.

Any way to minimize it to tray? Don't see the option to have it open but not have it on taskbar.

[Aurora906]

6 minutes ago, gabrielcarvfer said:

They're all spying us, every major company is doing that because it works. Knowing who's on the other side make things easier to recommend, sell, and so on.

Still not acceptable.  Not much left of our PERSONAL Computers if we keep going down this road.

[NumLock21]

I just disable everything. But disabling them privacy setting may cause some apps not to work properly. This is confusing and annoyin, when I do use some of the win10 apps.

[Princess Luna]

7 minutes ago, Bouzoo said:

Any way to minimize it to tray? Don't see the option to have it open but not have it on taskbar.

You don't need to have it open 24h/7, you run the immunization set it to apply at boot and you can close it already, alternatively you can take the long route:

 

Disable telemetry in the registry

 

After using the spybot anti-beacon it is good to reboot.

[TidaLWaveZ]

7 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

This information was available day one, if one were actually willing to look for it beyond underinformed forums, basic online helpdesks, and the sensationalist publications that have been spouting lies regarding MS privacy policy.

 

None of this is a surprise to me, but then again, I also spent a few days searching beyond sites like Forbes and PCPer, looking for original sources of information.

Where was it available besides a basic description? Even on microsoft's site the extended description was added in March 2017, and the source can't get more original than Microsoft.

[GoodBytes]

1 hour ago, Princess Cadence said:

It's not like I haven't done my own research, I really don't appreciate your condescending tone, I know the greatest majority of such applications are a scam but spybot anti-beacon actually has some solid background backing it up?

Run System Internal Process Explorer, and monitor what it does.

It sets registry keys that links to the same keys that the Settings panel Privacy settings links to. It changes a registry key which links to a GPO with the value of 0, in the hope that would disable it, but Microsoft very own documentation says that value "0" has still telemetry data. Put stuff in HOST file, to attempt to block, but to prevent rerouting of telemetry data by a malware or virus, the HOST file is ignored to ensure that everything arrives to Microsoft servers. And it disables services that sounds potentially like it is related to telemetry.. sorry... SPYING..

 

Sorry, but Barnacleses is anti-Microsoft, filled with miss information regarding the company, and company software. And also a hypocrite (knowingly or not). He uses Edge web browser, uses Chrome, uses Google services, uses Android. All of which has telemetry and/or market data tracking, and provides false information to users, making them think that what he used is "safe from any tracking". How about using Firefox? Tor? Telegram? and many other alternative software and services that offer complete privacy.  Not to mention also, that he claims that telemetry data collecting is NSA spying, clearly not knowing what telemetry data is, or informing properly people. Why inform, when you can make a click-bait video, and play with people fears and encourage miss information for desperate views. He loves to play the fact that he was laid off at Microsoft, due to role termination, despite being offered 2 new, and better positions within the company (which I was informed that when you change role within the company, even if you are an active employee in the company, you still have to pass through an interview process. But it is more to see if you know your stuff in general and fit in the team). He says decline them (or he failed to pass those interviews and doesn't want to admit it). Many employee that were laid off, part of Microsoft restructure, either left to work somewhere else (please note that laid off, involves getting a nice financial package, as it is Microsoft that terminates the contract, not the employee that goes against it (fired), or under performs for renewal or leaves), or they joined back in another job position. Proof of this, is that, ignoring the Nokia mess, employee count remained about the the same. A "small" drop only (again, ignoring Nokia numbers).

 

I highly doubt he will do a video on the topic of this news to inform properly. 'cause that doesn't bring views.