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AMD planning high-end CPU with all the bells and whistles

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Tech of Tomorrow had an interview with Roy Taylor of AMD. He tells the company is designing a new CPU, not an APU.. that will compete with high end INTEL CPU. They are planning a significant die shrink, support DDR4 and everything you need.. Finally after a long time AMD is going for a full on assault on industry..This will shake things up a lot.

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Hopefully they can pull this off. 

Would be great for the industry.

Intel might not get to sit on their asses all day anymore.

 

>implying it's going to be good 

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If it's good might have to support AMD WITH A NEW CPU AND GPU

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I guess this is supposed to be zen. I really hope it is competitive. It's rumoured to have 16 cores, and if those cores are as fast as intel's or close, it will be amazing.

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Looking like they may be taking an all around turn for the better with the new hbm gpu and these new cpus. Pretty stoked for Amd's new stuff!

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Hopefully they can pull this off. 

Would be great for the industry.

Intel might not get to sit on their asses all day anymore.

 

>implying it's going to be good 

Intel isn't sitting on its ass. Desktop just isn't its primary focus. Currently going low power to compete with ARM in ultra mobile (mobile for me is laptops and tablets, and ultra mobile is phones) and dense servers is one focus. Another is increasing the compute density and scaling on the HPC chips such as E5 and E7 Xeons to drive IBM out of supercomputing.

 

And don't forget Intel's also the primary developer of Ethernet, USB, 802.11 wireless, Infiniband (to be usurped by OmniPath), and a lot more on the hardware side. On the software side Intel's even more ubiquitous. To assume the premier tech company of the world is sitting on its ass is to commit an act of blatant stupidity.

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Didn't we already know pretty much all of this? This is "Zen" which is slated to arrive some time in 2016. ;)

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so.......pretty much the generic BS marketing/PR speak? nothing to actually show other than hopeful dreams?

 

moving on....

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Yeah, did watch this today. They have to, and I hope they really strike next year with new architecture. I wish them good luck.

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Good. AMD needs to make a good CPU so Intel can have a reason to release all the features they've developed, and can't ship because they need AMD to exist.

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Not really news. We know Zen will be a 14nm finfet chip, with very performance IPC, designed by Jim Keller, and supporting DDR4. But I did enjoy the interview with him. AMD should do more of those.

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Not really news. We know Zen will be a 14nm finfet chip, with very performance IPC, designed by Jim Keller, and supporting DDR4. But I did enjoy the interview with him. AMD should do more of those.

It's wonderful, cheap marketing, something AMD needs to spend less on and simultaneously perform better at.

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I'm not trying to make this an Intel v AMD thing, but I have just heard that from AMD (or something similar at least) before and been let down too many times. 

Here is a list of common fallacies. Which ones have you used today?

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They said at least a 40% improviment in ipc. That will bring ipc inline with at least the first generation i5/i7.

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It's wonderful, cheap marketing, something AMD needs to spend less on and simultaneously perform better at.

 

Indeed. I did enjoy Richard Huddy's appearances on PCPer and the no bs show (or whatever it's called. Wish he would do one about Fury on PCper again. The PCPer shows with Tom Petersen, from NVidia are very interesting, and I learn a lot from them. 

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What did he mean by "pure" CPU? Does that mean no useless integrated graphics taking up half the space like with Intel?

It isn't useless, far from it. It serves both general utility (if your dGPU fails, you can hook up to iGPU and still do any work you may need your PC for, even if you can't do high end gaming) and heterogeneous acceleration of professional software. Intel, AMD, IBM, and ARM all say the future is heterogeneous. If you disagree with all of them, no one should value your opinion on the matter. And AMD's iGPU takes up half the die space too. Consumer software just has to catch up.

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I really hope this happens. We need something new in the market.

Intel is getting boring lol

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I really hope this happens. We need something new in the market.

Intel is getting boring lol

It's not Intel's fault the SISD computing model has hard theoretical performance limits and that consumer software evolves at a snail's pace. For Intel and most there's no point in chasing the last couple cycles to shave from single data instructions. There's no return on investment. So they focus on SIMD and professional/HPC functions. More than 70% of the performance of a Haswell CPU is left on the table by games right now between the lack of scalable multithreading and the lack of SIMD instruction use.

 

Blame Microsoft and others for not pushing SIMD sooner than Windows 10. Intel provided the tools to build multithreaded code in a scalable fashion (OpenMP, which is an open standard supported by all major C/C++ compilers) and the tools to vectorize functions to extract greater ILP (CilkPlus, which is implemented in an opensource fashion for GCC and Clang). Blame software developers for trying to maintain support for the Pentium 3 chips, the minimum needed to run Windows XP.

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What did he mean by "pure" CPU? Does that mean no useless integrated graphics taking up half the space like with Intel?

probably like an fx line again with no integrated which does take away from the cpu

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