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AMD planning high-end CPU with all the bells and whistles

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Can't wait to see Zen come to life.

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Intel isn't sitting on its ass. Desktop just isn't its primary focus. Currently going low power to compete with ARM in ultra mobile (mobile for me is laptops and tablets, and ultra mobile is phones) and dense servers is one focus. Another is increasing the compute density and scaling on the HPC chips such as E5 and E7 Xeons to drive IBM out of supercomputing.

 

And don't forget Intel's also the primary developer of Ethernet, USB, 802.11 wireless, Infiniband (to be usurped by OmniPath), and a lot more on the hardware side. On the software side Intel's even more ubiquitous. To assume the premier tech company of the world is sitting on its ass is to commit an act of blatant stupidity.

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Just watching the interview now. It's a good one. Thanks for posting. :) 

 

He addresses some of the supposed "issues" like drivers and rebranding that everyone keeps complaining about. Roy is pretty open and honest about it, which is cool. 

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Can't wait to see Zen come to life.

Yeah, after fiji im actually a bit excited. I will be buying that fiji nano card, no doubt about that.

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I really hope AMD can pull it off, I miss being able to have an AMD processor in a gaming build like I had with the Athlon XP, Athlon 64x2, and Phenom II x4.

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I really hope AMD can pull it off, I miss being able to have an AMD processor in a gaming build like I had with the Athlon XP, Athlon 64x2, and Phenom II x4.

I have an 8370, yes its not the most powerful. But AMD needs the support to make those high end cpu's. Thats why my next upgrade will see me going FULL amd. (Ram, SSD, CPU, GPU)  Im not a fanboy, I just want to help a company that does great things, and is unappreciated 

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It isn't useless, far from it. It serves both general utility (if your dGPU fails, you can hook up to iGPU and still do any work you may need your PC for, even if you can't do high end gaming) and heterogeneous acceleration of professional software. Intel, AMD, IBM, and ARM all say the future is heterogeneous. If you disagree with all of them, no one should value your opinion on the matter. And AMD's iGPU takes up half the die space too. Consumer software just has to catch up.

 

So it's useless unless you have a specific use case for it. Like literally everything. I've not had an iGPU since 2011, and I've never had any use for one. If you find it unthinkable that anyone could possibly not need one, you're wrong.

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Waiting for CPU with HBM.....

Why?, current DDR3 is plenty fast for any CPU, GPUs on the other hand, can take all the bandwidth they can.

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So it's useless unless you have a specific use case for it. Like literally everything. I've not had an iGPU since 2011, and I've never had any use for one. If you find it unthinkable that anyone could possibly not need one, you're wrong.

Being useless and you personally not seeing a use are two different things. For video transcoding I'd prefer having it honestly. In general I'd prefer having an iGPU just so I can put the dGPUs to sleep unless gaming. It'll make both them and the PSU last longer.

 

There is utility in everything Intel does. Just because you don't see it is no reason to doubt that.

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Why?, current DDR3 is plenty fast for any CPU, GPUs on the other hand, can take all the bandwidth they can.

Clearly you didn't see how the 128MB of eDRAM affected the 5775C performance. In a number of tests it shows despite the clock difference, it can keep up with a 4790K. I don't think anyone's yet shown overclocked tests either. Integration is the future simply because it will improve performance. The closer you can bring more RAM to the CPU, the less time it takes to access memory and the more bandwidth you can achieve.

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Please please please have a single chipset so it can finnaly be in a mini itx system.

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Being useless and you personally not seeing a use are two different things. For video transcoding I'd prefer having it honestly. In general I'd prefer having an iGPU just so I can put the dGPUs to sleep unless gaming. It'll make both them and the PSU last longer.

 

There is utility in everything Intel does. Just because you don't see it is no reason to doubt that.

 

I'm not saying they're useless for everyone, I'm saying to me it's a complete waste of silicon. If they offered a 4690k without an iGPU at all for a discount, I'd get that. As it is I just got a bunch of extra cores instead, and very much not a discount.

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Intel might not get to sit on their asses all day anymore.

I can guarantee you the brilliant engineers at Intel are not sitting on their asses & twiddling their thumbs.  ;)

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What did he mean by "pure" CPU? Does that mean no useless integrated graphics taking up half the space like with Intel?

 

Yeah.  Like the current FX line up.

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 It'll make both them and the PSU last longer.

 

 

This is a weird argument to make when 10-15 year old GPU's are still kicking around fully functional and your average PSU comes with 7 year warranty.

 

By the time these components die from usage, their performance is weak enough that you'd have taken them out years prior.

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I can guarantee you the brilliant engineers at Intel are not sitting on their asses & twiddling their thumbs.  ;)

 

As I said above, you know what I meant.

Someone told Luke and Linus at CES 2017 to "Unban the legend known as Jerakl" and that's about all I've got going for me. (It didn't work)

 

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Yeah. Like the current FX line up.

I actually never bothered to look up what AMD had as I've been using my Intel 2600k for years without planning to upgrade. As long as Zen performs well, I'll probably be getting that. I looked up the current Intel prices and it's pretty expensive.

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I'm predicting it will have ivy-brdge performance in terms of IPC but with newer instructions and more cores. 

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I don't see how a bell or a whistle would help a CPU do all the calculations necessary to put porn on my monitor.

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Tech of Tomorrow had an interview with Roy Taylor of AMD. He tells the company is designing a new CPU, not an APU.. that will compete with high end INTEL CPU. They are planning a significant die shrink, support DDR4 and everything you need.. Finally after a long time AMD is going for a full on assault on industry..This will shake things up a lot.

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he doesn't understand, i want AMD to shit on nvidia and intel's faces. I need nvidia and intel to stop monopolizing and therefore intel is not progressing with their tech.

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I don't see how a bell or a whistle would help a CPU do all the calculations necessary to put porn on my monitor.

it can alarm you when someone is cumming to your room

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This is a weird argument to make when 10-15 year old GPU's are still kicking around fully functional and your average PSU comes with 7 year warranty.

 

By the time these components die from usage, their performance is weak enough that you'd have taken them out years prior.

Eh, my dad made a 1KW PSU from PC Power & Cooling last 11 years, and it was only in the last year that the 12V rail started to degrade, and PC P&C offered to refurbish it for $25 (still our favorite PSU company despite the generally higher prices). When it comes back it'll stand as a spare in case anyone's PSU dies for any reason (freak accidents happen).

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Good. AMD needs to make a good CPU so Intel can have a reason to release all the features they've developed, and can't ship because they need AMD to exist.

 

will have to see if you will need to change your sig  :D

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