Experiences with non-techies

[DoctorNick]

10 hours ago, Mel0nMan said:

That was a thing... but wow that just made me laugh so hard

Damn if I didn't have a 280 rad in the front of my case, I would have this

[da na]

1 hour ago, DoctorNick said:

Damn if I didn't have a 280 rad in the front of my case, I would have this

I’ve been trying for years to find one of these

Only issue is…

[FruitOfTheLum]

A few years ago, my grandad (who is breaking computers in the sky now) was going on a cruise to Japan. He didn't own a computer, but the company he'd charted the cruise with told him that he could track the ship's progress on the Internet as it travelled back to the UK, so he could see what it was up to before he went. 

 

So we took him my old Windows 98 PC (it was still supported at the time), set it up for him, and started teaching him how to get on the Internet.

 

We booted it up, and told him to use the mouse to click on the browser icon.

 

He lifted the mouse up, placed it on the monitor against the browser icon, and clicked...

[DoctorNick]

9 minutes ago, FruitOfTheLum said:

A few years ago, my grandad (who is breaking computers in the sky now) was going on a cruise to Japan. He didn't own a computer, but the company he'd charted the cruise with told him that he could track the ship's progress on the Internet as it travelled back to the UK, so he could see what it was up to before he went. 

 

So we took him my old Windows 98 PC (it was still supported at the time), set it up for him, and started teaching him how to get on the Internet.

 

We booted it up, and told him to use the mouse to click on the browser icon.

 

He lifted the mouse up, placed it on the monitor against the browser icon, and clicked...

Actually makes some sense, if the guy never used a pc before. Is it worse than the young people thinking everything has touchscreen?

[FruitOfTheLum]

3 minutes ago, DoctorNick said:

Actually makes some sense, if the guy never used a pc before. Is it worse than the young people thinking everything has touchscreen?

I suppose it does make sense, but it earnt him a synchronised face-palming from my dad (who was a partner in a computer business at the time) and myself (who built the thing he was... erm... mousing) regardless!

 

Thankfully all the young people I know aren't so bad (it remains to be seen whether my one-year-old niece will make the transition well or not). Though that does remind me of my nephew once believing that the PC monitor is the PC. It took ages to get him to realise that the actual computer was in a separate box.

[CT854]

6 minutes ago, FruitOfTheLum said:

Thankfully all the young people I know aren't so bad (it remains to be seen whether my one-year-old niece will make the transition well or not). Though that does remind me of my nephew once believing that the PC monitor is the PC. It took ages to get him to realise that the actual computer was in a separate box.

This is mostly a symptom of people being raised to believe that things happen in a black box. If you're raised primarily using smartphones/tablets (or even an iMac or laptops - hell, any all-in-one device) it's easy to assume that everything that powers the display comes from the display itself.

[DoctorNick]

1 minute ago, FruitOfTheLum said:

I suppose it does make sense, but it earnt him a synchronised face-palming from my dad (who was a partner in a computer business at the time) and myself (who built the thing he was... erm... mousing) regardless!

 

Thankfully all the young people I know aren't so bad (it remains to be seen whether my one-year-old niece will make the transition well or not). Though that does remind me of my nephew once believing that the PC monitor is the PC. It took ages to get him to realise that the actual computer was in a separate box.

Haha 

Yes I keep getting surprised. I see people +20 yo hitting a monitor screen repeatedly. Haha yea I actually helped a lady today on the phone, that thoght her monitor was the tower and couldn't understand why her webcam didn't work, beacuse "it was connected". I had a hard time explaining it to her and ended up getting her to count the wires going from the monitor -_-

[whm1974]

2 hours ago, DoctorNick said:

Haha 

Yes I keep getting surprised. I see people +20 yo hitting a monitor screen repeatedly. Haha yea I actually helped a lady today on the phone, that thoght her monitor was the tower and couldn't understand why her webcam didn't work, beacuse "it was connected". I had a hard time explaining it to her and ended up getting her to count the wires going from the monitor -_-

Did you explain the advantages of NOT using a AIO Computer? AFAIK they don't make AIO's with higher resolutions then 1080p nor larger sizes then ~21".

[12345678]

ex generic doctor asking me for her password on whatever patients registry did they use, as if it was obvious that I did know about it

[Bitter]

32 minutes ago, 12345678 said:

ex generic doctor asking me for her password on whatever patients registry did they use, as if it was obvious that I did know about it

Was it 87654321?

[FakeATF]

I found 20 installations of Microsoft Visual C++ on one computer yesterday. Win.

[Tan3l6]

4 minutes ago, FakeATF said:

I found 20 installations of Microsoft Visual C++ on one computer yesterday. Win.

They don't do harm.

They might be needed by some programs or games to be exact version, if I'm not mistaken.

https://www.techpowerup.com/download/visual-c-redistributable-runtime-package-all-in-one/

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[FakeATF]

3 minutes ago, Tan3l6 said:

They don't do harm.

They might be needed by some programs or games to be exact version, if I'm not mistaken.

https://www.techpowerup.com/download/visual-c-redistributable-runtime-package-all-in-one/

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Maybe but it didn't need 20 of them

[HanZie82]

On 9/9/2021 at 2:50 PM, FruitOfTheLum said:

A few years ago, my grandad (who is breaking computers in the sky now) was going on a cruise to Japan. He didn't own a computer, but the company he'd charted the cruise with told him that he could track the ship's progress on the Internet as it travelled back to the UK, so he could see what it was up to before he went. 

 

So we took him my old Windows 98 PC (it was still supported at the time), set it up for him, and started teaching him how to get on the Internet.

 

We booted it up, and told him to use the mouse to click on the browser icon.

 

He lifted the mouse up, placed it on the monitor against the browser icon, and clicked...

Yeah i remember this being a TV commercial some years ago.

 

^{Mouse go's on monitor around 25 sec into video.}

About an internet provider claiming to make it 'easier', which wasnt the case btw.

 

 

4 minutes ago, FakeATF said:

Maybe but it didn't need 20 of them

Tell that to your different games needing specific versions of that.

(Altho might be that Windows 10 currently downloads them all automagicly for you, instead of your game giving weird errors).

[FruitOfTheLum]

2 minutes ago, HanZie82 said:

Yeah i remember this being a TV commercial some years ago.

 

About an internet provider claiming to make it 'easier', which wasnt the case btw.

Ahahahaha yes it was just like that!

[FakeATF]

4 minutes ago, HanZie82 said:

Yeah i remember this being a TV commercial some years ago.

 

About an internet provider claiming to make it 'easier', which wasnt the case btw.

 

 

Tell that to your different games needing specific versions of that.

(Altho might be that Windows 10 currently downloads them all automagicly for you, instead of your game giving weird errors).

I think the only games that need it are FOMM and STALKER Anomaly.

[HanZie82]

Just now, FakeATF said:

I think the only games that need it are FOMM and STALKER Anomaly.

If no other applications use them you should be able to delete them and be done with it. (the not needed ones)

[Helpful Tech Witch]

5 minutes ago, FakeATF said:

Maybe but it didn't need 20 of them

Actually a lot op programs use multiple versions. 
for the stuff I needed for my win phone I needed all of them for it to work. ALL OF THEM

its pretty common if you use older programs

[FakeATF]

Just now, HanZie82 said:

If no other applications use them you should be able to delete them and be done with it. (the not needed ones)

Yeah, I did. They both just needed the 2015-2019 version.

[da na]

1 hour ago, FakeATF said:

I found 20 installations of Microsoft Visual C++ on one computer yesterday. Win.

I've got 15 on my workstation.

Every fkin version of Unity seems to need a different one. Plus VS Code Compiler needs like 2, then there's one for Silverlight... all the things...

[adarw]

On 9/9/2021 at 9:16 AM, CT854 said:

This is mostly a symptom of people being raised to believe that things happen in a black box. If you're raised primarily using smartphones/tablets (or even an iMac or laptops - hell, any all-in-one device) it's easy to assume that everything that powers the display comes from the display itself.

i used to think that the monitor was the computer, i didnt know what the "box" was for..... i thougt laptops were monitors with keyboards.... dont blame me tho i was like 9....

[da na]

3 minutes ago, adarw said:

i used to think that the monitor was the screen, i didnt know what the "box" was for..... i thougt laptops were monitors with keyboards.... dont blame me tho i was like 9....

I used to think all the processing was done in the keyboard.

My parents had one of those desks where you put the PC in the PC sized cabinet under the desk so you don't see it - so all there was was a monitor and keyboard. My dad also had a Commodore 64 (that's how I got into programming) that he would let me mess around with, and yknow it's basically just a super thick keyboard you plug into a monitor (or at least 6 year old me thought...) So I just assumed, oh the keyboard is the PC. And laptops are keyboards with a foldy screen. 

[adarw]

2 minutes ago, Mel0nMan said:

I used to think all the processing was done in the keyboard.

My parents had one of those desks where you put the PC in the PC sized cabinet under the desk so you don't see it - so all there was was a monitor and keyboard. My dad also had a Commodore 64 (that's how I got into programming) that he would let me mess around with, and yknow it's basically just a super thick keyboard you plug into a monitor (or at least 6 year old me thought...) So I just assumed, oh the keyboard is the PC. And laptops are keyboards with a foldy screen. 

lol, do you still have that commodore tho?

[da na]

1 minute ago, adarw said:

lol, do you still have that commodore tho?

Yes. 

We now have 2 C64's, a C128, an Apple II, and a IIe. 

I've got my own assortment of retro stuff that I paid for but those are his. 

[soldier_ph]

On 9/8/2021 at 12:06 AM, Mel0nMan said:

I hate it when people just chuck their bags with laptops in them face down on the ground and, If you’re a sane person and put your laptop at the back of the bag closest to the straps, it’s facing straight into the sun… and that phone face down hurts my soul…

 

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That's like the way to get your phone stolen, just chuck it into the grass where everyone walks by. Man sometimes in Public Transport I could loot Handbags from Ladies so easily it's ridiculous.