Sorry LTT this is a better take on how DEVISTATING the 3080 is to 2080TI owners.

[Uttamattamakin]

Worse than Global Thermonuclear War. 

Without spoiling it those who bought in the last several months have fallen victim to the fact that while something new is always in the pipeline ... buying just before that new product drops.   

Now I don't have a 2080Ti... but I can feel their pain having bought a AMD 3000 series APU earlier in the year just before the newer 4000 series APU's came out.  (Tempered by the fact they haven't or won't be relased  boxed for builders but still....)  

This video really hits the nail on the head for anyone who appreciates having really good GPU performance in a discrete GPU.  Other than going from a spinning drive to a SSD nothing makes a computer feel as new as a new GPU. 

[Kanna]

I have none 3000 series nor 2080 but damn it must hurt on seeing something much cheaper outperform your card

[DrMacintosh]

The 3000 series being good only matters if your current GPU is not performing at the level you want it to. As for everyone else, we're snoozin

[Roswell]

This is always how the GPU market has worked, who cares? 
 

That said, this is also what happens when weak minded consumers continue to shell out an ever increasing amount of money for GPUs. The consequences wouldn’t be so dramatic if top tier cards still sold for $500 instead of $1500, but people have shown Nvidia that they’re willing to grossly overpay and Nvidia is exploiting it.

[Blademaster91]

I'm not sure what you mean, if you have a 2080ti it's not like it's suddenly a bad card, if you're satisfied with the performance then no need to upgrade. As much as I'd like to get a 3070 nvidia has been increasing prices since the rtx 20 series, so I'll wait and see if amd can compete because nvidia is getting insane with pricing because they're only competing with themselves.

[Lord Vile]

2 hours ago, Uttamattamakin said:

Worse than Global Thermonuclear War. 

Without spoiling it those who bought in the last several months have fallen victim to the fact that while something new is always in the pipeline ... buying just before that new product drops.   

Now I don't have a 2080Ti... but I can feel their pain having bought a AMD 3000 series APU earlier in the year just before the newer 4000 series APU's came out.  (Tempered by the fact they haven't or won't be relased  boxed for builders but still....)  

This video really hits the nail on the head for anyone who appreciates having really good GPU performance in a discrete GPU.  Other than going from a spinning drive to a SSD nothing makes a computer feel as new as a new GPU. 

I have 0 empathy for people who bought a 2080 or higher within the last 6 months. We knew 3000 series was coming, we knew it was going to improve performance so if you bought something then it’s your own fault. It would be the same as someone buying a Xbone X in June, we knew the XSX was coming, you have no one to blame but yourself. 

[Zodiark1593]

59 minutes ago, Lord Vile said:

I have 0 empathy for people who bought a 2080 or higher within the last 6 months. We knew 3000 series was coming, we knew it was going to improve performance so if you bought something then it’s your own fault. It would be the same as someone buying a Xbone X in June, we knew the XSX was coming, you have no one to blame but yourself. 

What about the small number of people with hardware failures and needed a replacement ASAP? Surely, some small morsel of sympathy is warranted for those with little choice in the matter. (GPUs are used for more than gaming)

[Fatih19]

If after this, those very same people still buy Ampere when Hopper is right around the corner, no sympathy is deserved because clearly, no lesson was learned.

[NumLock21]

22 minutes ago, Zodiark1593 said:

What about the small number of people with hardware failures and needed a replacement ASAP? Surely, some small morsel of sympathy is warranted for those with little choice in the matter. (GPUs are used for more than gaming)

They can either run onboard graphics or get a cheap card, just to output video. The card then be used for future backup testing purpose.

[NumLock21]

55 minutes ago, Fatih19 said:

If after this, those very same people still buy Ampere when Hopper is right around the corner, no sympathy is deserved because clearly, no lesson was learned.

Going by your way of thinking of, "next gen GPU is right around the corner, and no sympathy is deserved because clearly, no lesson was learned", you might was well just tell people to stop buying gpus, since there will always be something NEW right around the corner.

Hopper won't be here for at least 2 more years, so those buying Ampere now, will clearly have their money's worth, when Hopper arrives.

[Zodiark1593]

35 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

They can either run onboard graphics or get a cheap card, just to output video. The card then be used for future backup testing purpose.

Me: Was kind of talking about GPGPU stuff like CAD, 3D, etc, productivity tasks that would be much slower on iGPU. 

[Tristerin]

[Fatih19]

32 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

Going by your way of thinking of, "next gen GPU is right around the corner, and no sympathy is deserved because clearly, no lesson was learned", you might was well just tell people to stop buying gpus, since there will always be something NEW right around the corner.

Hopper won't be here for at least 2 more years, so those buying Ampere now, will clearly have their money's worth, when Hopper arrives.

Nvidia had a 21 days countdown to the announcement. And no, I'm not saying the people who buy Ampere now, but to the people who buy Ampere a month before Hopper is announced.

[Arika]

5 hours ago, Uttamattamakin said:

This video really hits the nail on the head for anyone who appreciates having really good GPU performance in a discrete GPU

....what? the 2080ti will perform the exact same as it always has when the 3080 is released...

 

I don't understand why people think they need to have the latest and greatest of everything as soon as it's out. there's not much a 2080ti cannot do that the 3080 can for 99% of people

[Dabombinable]

The GTX 1070 was a fair bit cheaper than the GTX 980ti...and it matched and sometimes exceeded it in performance, with GTX 970 levels of power consumption - if not a bit less. So this is something that really should be expected at this point. Especially if you've bought any GPU in the last 20 years. Leaps like this used to be quite normal.

[jones177]

As far as I am concerned anyone that bought a 2080 ti and is upset with the price/performance of the new cards could not really afford a 2080 ti in the first place.

I will be paying more for a 2080 ti replacements since I don't consider the 3080 an upgrade. So there is no price drop for me. 

 

 

[Fatih19]

41 minutes ago, Zodiark1593 said:

Me: Was kind of talking about GPGPU stuff like CAD, 3D, etc, productivity tasks that would be much slower on iGPU. 

But assuming they're using those hardware for making money, the cost for a 2080Ti spent for avoiding downtime would've been recouped, no?

[Roswell]

27 minutes ago, jones177 said:

As far as I am concerned anyone that bought a 2080 ti and is upset with the price/performance of the new cards could not really afford a 2080 ti in the first place.

I will be paying more for a 2080 ti replacements since I don't consider the 3080 an upgrade. So there is no price drop for me. 

 

 

How isn’t it an upgrade? It’s much, much faster for less money.

[Lord Vile]

2 hours ago, Zodiark1593 said:

What about the small number of people with hardware failures and needed a replacement ASAP? Surely, some small morsel of sympathy is warranted for those with little choice in the matter. (GPUs are used for more than gaming)

Then they should still be in the warranty period which is generally 36 months with the RTX cards. If they're using it for professional use then I wouldn't expect them to be running a GeForce card. More a Quadro or AMD card as they both stomp GeForce cards in professional workloads for a much lower price.

[jones177]

3 minutes ago, Vitamanic said:

How isn’t it an upgrade? It’s much, much faster for less money.

It has less vram than I use.

 

Some of the so called leaked benches have the 2080 ti scoring lower than I can even duplicate. The ones that look legit have scores that are not an upgrade compared going from a GTX 1080 ti to 2080 ti. 

 

I use 4k OLED TVs as monitors and would like to get as close to 4k 120hz as possible.

 

The money is not a concern to me because I only buy thing that I can afford and would not go into debt for one of my hobbies.

Hopefully the 3080 ti will be out with more vram before I have saved for my second 3090. 

[Zodiark1593]

29 minutes ago, Lord Vile said:

Then they should still be in the warranty period which is generally 36 months with the RTX cards. If they're using it for professional use then I wouldn't expect them to be running a GeForce card. More a Quadro or AMD card as they both stomp GeForce cards in professional workloads for a much lower price.

Very highly depends on the workload. 3D rendering allows GeForce cards to keep parity or exceed that of Quadro cards. Video editing also seems to benefit little, if not at all from a Quadro vs a GeForce card. 

[Ravendarat]

I bought my 2080TI over 18 months ago for 1700CAD and sold it for 1300 CAD at the beginning of August to someone building a i910900K build, I had a spare 2060ko I through in my rig and couldnt be happier. I will buy a new card at some point but I am super glad I got my money out of my card before this was all officially announced as the bath I would have taken on it would have been a bitter pill to swallow.

[thrasher_565]

i almost got a gtx 1070 with ek block for $300 off ebay... the good thing is there will be affordable gpus now as the price should go down despite the virus.  the people that buy the 3090 will be like wtf when the ti comes out or a titan. also i garentee that there will be a better faster card after the 30xx.  its just the argument of should i upgrade or wate. keep in mind that it dose not cost $xxxx to make that card as when the price drops they still want to make proffet from it. jsut different ways of marketing. now on the consoles side is they almost lose money every time but make money off the subscriptions.

[Lord Vile]

4 hours ago, Zodiark1593 said:

Very highly depends on the workload. 3D rendering allows GeForce cards to keep parity or exceed that of Quadro cards. Video editing also seems to benefit little, if not at all from a Quadro vs a GeForce card. 

Video editing is on the CPU side and 3D rendering varies on mode and program though the Radeon VII is level or better than the 2080 in most cases.

[Morrie Sells Wigs]

Are there even any games out that can take advantage of this increased performance?

 

I know there will be eventually...but when?