Samsung Announces The Galaxy S10 Trio

[TacoSenpai]

They look nice and all but I will stand by I will not spend a grand on a phone I'm perfectly fine with my S8+ for a long while.  Hell at this point I might go to a dumb phone before long.

 

I seriously want to see the reaction people have when I pull out a flip phone and they are all on their smart phones.  It would be like in Inception when all the dream people look up and stare at the people that shouldn't be in the dream. 

[Rohith_Kumar_Sp]

Gonna hold onto my S7 Edge for a few more years until they figure out how to add that front cam underneath the screen. 

[mrchow19910319]

what ROM do people put on their samsung devices?

I always wonder.

[k.m.p]

The oneplus 3t was considered a budget phone at $439. th oneplus 6t is now $549, the iphone 6s cost $549 at launch and the iphone xs $1000, phones have been getting increasingly more expensive for what I can see is no obvious reason, its the same with cpu's (9900k most expensive mainstream cpu), graphics cards (2080ti now 1200 when 1080ti was about 750) and just about everything else.

 

It seems like all companies are trying to exploit customers willingness to spend to the max, before we used to get a better product each generation at a similar price, now we are getting a new (im not sure if we can even call most new phones better) at a sky high price, people thought that budget companies like oneplus or better value cpu options from amd ryzen would change things, but sadly that is not the case.

[LAwLz]

40 minutes ago, mrchow19910319 said:

what ROM do people put on their samsung devices?

I always wonder.

I actually really enjoy the stock one.

The big problem with switching ROM is that you lose the stock camera, which is by far the best one.

[Ithanul]

17 minutes ago, k.m.p said:

It seems like all companies are trying to exploit customers willingness to spend to the max, before we used to get a better product each generation at a similar price, now we are getting a new (im not sure if we can even call most new phones better) at a sky high price, people thought that budget companies like oneplus or better value cpu options from amd ryzen would change things, but sadly that is not the case.

Got to agree.  Was looking at new phones with maybe the possiblity of finally upgrading from my old Turbo 2.  Yeah, nope, I'm going to stick to this phone for a few years longer (may see if I can't mod a slightly bigger battery into it).  I'm just not impressed with the specs nor the with the displays of newer phones.

 

What I been finding funny of late, co-workers have newer phones, complain about cell signal a good chunk of the time in the building. I'm sitting over here with my old butt Turbo 2 getting pretty darn good signal inside.

[k.m.p]

2 minutes ago, Ithanul said:

Got to agree.  Was looking at new phones with maybe the possiblity of finally upgrading from my old Turbo 2.  Yeah, nope, I'm going to stick to this phone for a few years longer (may see if I can't mod a slightly bigger battery into it).  I'm just not impressed with the specs nor the with the displays of newer phones.

 

What I been finding funny of late, co-workers have newer phones, complain about cell signal a good chunk of the time in the building. I'm sitting over here with my old butt Turbo 2 getting pretty darn good signal inside.

constantly changing phones has a enviromental impact as well since it creates a huge e-waste problem.

Sitting here with my sony z5 premium, Im not gonna lie, the new phones do have very nice screens and camera's that'll give an old dslr a run for its money, but with a lot of them not having headphone jacks, very ugly notches and sky high prices and bloated non-stock android skins, I'm really finding a hard time finding a phone that I am 100% willing to buy.

[mrchow19910319]

20 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

I actually really enjoy the stock one.

The big problem with switching ROM is that you lose the stock camera, which is by far the best one.

does samsung still put ads everywhere??

[LAwLz]

10 minutes ago, mrchow19910319 said:

does samsung still put ads everywhere??

Not sure what ads you're referring to. I've had a Galaxy S2 and S7 and haven't seen any ads in those. And I consider myself very sensitive to ads and dislike them with a passion.

Can't comment on any of their other phones though since I haven't used them.

[TVwazhere]

5 hours ago, DildorTheDecent said:

Trade in your old phone and get up to £300 off (£350 for the S9+). Your S8 gets you £250 off. Quite a saving, since it can make one of the higher end models fall into the base models original price bracket.

 

My S7 Edge gets me £200 off any of the phones. It would make the S10+ 512GB (£1099 normally) £899 which is the same price as the 128GB model. Bargain.

 

The black ceramic S10+ 1TB is out of stock rn. Those went fast.

I hope they still have these deals in May because that's when I'm eligible for my contact to renew.

 

Gonna wait for Full reviews for all the phones on the market though before making the decision (I might even keep my S8+ for another year), but the list of phones with headphone jacks is [woefully inadequate male size joke here]

[Curufinwe_wins]

5 hours ago, Morgan MLGman said:

I agree that value-wise they're still a bit ahead of iPhones because of more storage, better screen and the in-screen fingerprint reader (which spoiler alert: is a better way of unlocking your phone everyday than FaceID - deal with it). Still, those prices are too much and are a hefty increase over previous generation, even if they offer more storage space (which I doubt many people will fully utilize and actually benefit from).

Its about 100 dollars more for double the storage at the base spec. (Launch s9/s9+ to these)

 

Not something I'm happy about, but not something I'm very upset with either. 

 

Ofc the non-base spec is insane.

 

Glad to see Samsung gave even better internals, an even better screen, still included a fingerprint reader, and a bigger battery, and a headphone jack, while managing to make the phone slightly thinner lol.

[FPSwithaWacomTablet]

Damn...

 

These oughta be Chromebooks at this point. Too much power IMO.

[D13H4RD]

1 hour ago, k.m.p said:

It seems like all companies are trying to exploit customers willingness to spend to the max, before we used to get a better product each generation at a similar price, now we are getting a new (im not sure if we can even call most new phones better) at a sky high price, people thought that budget companies like oneplus or better value cpu options from amd ryzen would change things, but sadly that is not the case.

That's probably the harsh reality of the smartphone market. Less and less people are buying phones as often as before and they're increasing prices in an effort to maintain profitability on a product that is decreasing in terms of volume.

 

There is a point where it doesn't really work out.

[DildorTheDecent]

15 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

I hope they still have these deals in May because that's when I'm eligible for my contact to renew

Hoping that my S7 Edge where things are starting to crash/not work will last till may.

 

Maybe a birthday gift. Would be just fine with the S10 base config imo.

[RejZoR]

22 minutes ago, k.m.p said:

The oneplus 3t was considered a budget phone at $439. th oneplus 6t is now $549, the iphone 6s cost $549 at launch and the iphone xs $1000, phones have been getting increasingly more expensive for what I can see is no obvious reason, its the same with cpu's (9900k most expensive mainstream cpu), graphics cards (2080ti now 1200 when 1080ti was about 750) and just about everything else.

 

It seems like all companies are trying to exploit customers willingness to spend to the max, before we used to get a better product each generation at a similar price, now we are getting a new (im not sure if we can even call most new phones better) at a sky high price, people thought that budget companies like oneplus or better value cpu options from amd ryzen would change things, but sadly that is not the case.

Ok, the iPhone XS is indeed ridiculously priced, but iPhone XR is quite nice actually. Ok, if we get past typical Apple idiocies of their eco system (like Lightning Port, iTunes for data transfers and weird design decisions in software or missing ones that Android had for ages), the XR feels really well in terms of build. You can really feel it's well built device. There is also privacy benefit of Apple devices which basically doesn't exist on anything from Google and VERY long term device support. iPhone 5s is what, 5+ years old now and it got iOS 12. A phone from 2013! Show me one Android device that has official software support for this long that's not Google Nexus/Pixel and even those don't have official support for this long. All of a sudden 800€ doesn't sound all that much given most Androids cost the same and sack support after 2 years at best. And XR is powered by the same A12 as found in stupid expensive XS and is still topping the performance charts despite SD 855 coming to market just now. 800€ for a phone that I'll be able to run for 5 years with latest software at any given time all of a sudden isn't all that expensive.

 

I know you can easily run outdated Android for 5+ years, but I always have crappy feeling running outdated OS missing software features new ones have or OS versions known to have exploits and security holes... I also hated Apple, but after Google forced me to ditch Android, I've re-evaluated the situation and it's actually pretty reasonable in the end.

[79wjd]

1 hour ago, k.m.p said:

The oneplus 3t was considered a budget phone at $439. th oneplus 6t is now $549, the iphone 6s cost $549 at launch and the iphone xs $1000, phones have been getting increasingly more expensive for what I can see is no obvious reason, its the same with cpu's (9900k most expensive mainstream cpu), graphics cards (2080ti now 1200 when 1080ti was about 750) and just about everything else.

 

It seems like all companies are trying to exploit customers willingness to spend to the max, before we used to get a better product each generation at a similar price, now we are getting a new (im not sure if we can even call most new phones better) at a sky high price, people thought that budget companies like oneplus or better value cpu options from amd ryzen would change things, but sadly that is not the case.

The 6s launched at $650 with the Plus being $750. The X at $1000 is more akin to the plus than the non plus when you consider screen size. Still a sizeable increase.

 

The 20 vs 10 series is a bit different though. If you look at the die sizes, the 2080 is larger than a 1080ti (550mmvs 470mm) and the 2080ti is significantly larger (750mm vs 470mm~). The RTX cores cost money in terms of both die space and RnD -- regardless of whether you care about ray tracing or not. New tech almost always carries an extra premium.

[k.m.p]

8 minutes ago, 79wjd said:

The 6s launched at $650 with the Plus being $750. The X at $1000 is more akin to the plus than the non plus when you consider screen size. Still a sizeable increase.

 

The 20 vs 10 series is a bit different though. If you look at the die sizes, the 2080 is larger than a 1080ti (550mmvs 470mm) and the 2080ti is significantly larger (750mm vs 470mm~). The RTX cores cost money in terms of both die space and RnD -- regardless of whether you care about ray tracing or not. New tech almost always carries an extra premium.

There was a price increase from maxwell, to pascal and now to turing, yes the die size is bigger on rtx cards but I highly doubt its enough to justify the price increase, I would attribute it to having no competition from amd in the high end gpu market- they had nothing to match the 1080ti when it launched and nothing to match the 2080ti at all.

[S w a t s o n]

Really happy I got in on the S9 fire sale around Boxing Day (Canadian Black Friday the day after christmas). My S9 came at a total cost of $210 CAD and I got to keep my special promo plan.

They could never convince me to pay this much money for a phone. The Galaxy Fold on the other hand at least has something of a reason to cost as much as it does. Realistically that should cost $999 and these flagships should cost $600. Remember back when flagships used to cost like $300?

[79wjd]

 

11 minutes ago, S w a t s o n said:

Remember back when flagships used to cost like $300?

They were $300 on contract. They were still in the $600~ neighborhood off contract.

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

I'm gonna hold on to my 64GB S7 for a while longer, I think.

[Commodus]

15 minutes ago, S w a t s o n said:

Really happy I got in on the S9 fire sale around Boxing Day (Canadian Black Friday the day after christmas). My S9 came at a total cost of $210 CAD and I got to keep my special promo plan.

They could never convince me to pay this much money for a phone. The Galaxy Fold on the other hand at least has something of a reason to cost as much as it does. Realistically that should cost $999 and these flagships should cost $600. Remember back when flagships used to cost like $300?

Flagships never really cost $300, though.  They subsidized that $300 price by locking you into a contract and quietly factoring device subsidies into their pricing.  I'm sure carriers use the shift to instalment plans as a way to mask rate increases, but those devices have regularly cost $700-plus.

 

Also, it's not so simple as claiming that phones should be cheaper.  The odds are that Samsung would be taking a loss on each unit if it sold the S10 for $600.  If you want flagships to cost that much, you have to accept that you likely won't get as impressive a device -- you'll get a OnePlus 6T with so-so cameras and a slow fingerprint reader.

[DrMacintosh]

Do people really need all of that in their phones though? I've been using a 6s Plus since launch and find little reason to spend anything more than $750 on a new phone. Even then, I decided to upgrade my PC to Ryzen 5 instead of replace my 6s Plus with a XR.

 

Think about it, what would you do on an S10 (or any new phone) that I can't do on a 4 year old flagship...... Is it worth $1000+? 

[S w a t s o n]

52 minutes ago, Commodus said:

Flagships never really cost $300, though.  They subsidized that $300 price by locking you into a contract and quietly factoring device subsidies into their pricing.  I'm sure carriers use the shift to instalment plans as a way to mask rate increases, but those devices have regularly cost $700-plus.

 

Also, it's not so simple as claiming that phones should be cheaper.  The odds are that Samsung would be taking a loss on each unit if it sold the S10 for $600.  If you want flagships to cost that much, you have to accept that you likely won't get as impressive a device -- you'll get a OnePlus 6T with so-so cameras and a slow fingerprint reader.

No they really did use to cost $300. I never sign contracts myself. $600 would not be a loss either

[Guest]

3 hours ago, LAwLz said:

I actually really enjoy the stock one.

The big problem with switching ROM is that you lose the stock camera, which is by far the best one.

It is an issue to pretty every phone with a custom rom on it, the LOS camera for example is...Uhmm..

 

Getting Google camera to work is a nightmare too and requires an insane amount of tweaking to get the same experience on typical stock roms, there are good examples though since some modded cameras like the gcammod actually improve the image quality from stock ROMs but still I have not found a perfect one which does not have bugs like missing slow motion or 60fps video on all my devices

 

Except on my old Nexus 5x but, since it is using the same camera as the stock rom...

Edited February 21, 2019 by Guest

[79wjd]

1 minute ago, S w a t s o n said:

No they really did use to cost $300. I never sign contracts myself. $600 would not be a loss either

You either did and you didn't know you did or you bought it at a discount. The Galaxy s2 was $600 for the 16gb variant iirc. The only way it was less was when you were on a carrier subsidized plan (which was virtually everyone in the US pre-2015~) or bought it at a discount.