Windows 10.0 released in 2015 will no longer be supported

[Sauron]

7 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

What does "not supported" actually mean? Does it mean that Microsoft's terrible customer service will just deny you help? If that the case then who cares? 

What I am worried about is that Microsoft has built in a death clock into the update process, so if it detects a version that's too old it will start actively blocking updates, and force you to do a reinstall if you even want or need to install a new update. 

 

Considering how extremely horrible and flat out evil Microsoft has been with updates recently, I would not be surprised if it's the latter. 

It probably means you won't get security updates without updating the whole build.

[AlTech]

16 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

What does "not supported" actually mean? Does it mean that Microsoft's terrible customer service will just deny you help? If that the case then who cares? 

That's part of it. The other part is not getting security updates or bug fix updates.

16 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

What I am worried about is that Microsoft has built in a death clock into the update process, so if it detects a version that's too old it will start actively blocking updates, and force you to do a reinstall if you even want or need to install a new update. 

 

Considering how extremely horrible and flat out evil Microsoft has been with updates recently, I would not be surprised if it's the latter. 

Oh don't worry it's true. if you don't update after an update has been available for 30 days then you automatically lose support and updates.

[LAwLz]

34 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

Oh don't worry it's true. if you don't update after an update has been available for 30 days then you automatically lose support and updates.

So you will actually need to do a complete reinstall if you don't upgrade as frequently as Microsoft wants you to?

[AlTech]

Just now, LAwLz said:

So you will actually need to do a complete reinstall if you don't upgrade as frequently as Microsoft wants you to?

Yes.

[LAwLz]

34 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

Yes.

That's fucked up. It's like Microsoft gets off beating their customers.

I really doubt there is a technical reason for it, so it's probably just a threat from Microsoft.

[tlink]

4 hours ago, AluminiumTech said:

then don't use them. They are part of the start menu on Windows 10. If you don't like it then run Windows 7, 8.1 or Linux.

i don't, but i just want the start menu to be more customizable. i love how they tried to organize it but it would be better if you could hide stuff from it, and if it wasn't all folders. whats the use of a start menu if i can't remove things i don't want quick access to from it?

[Doobeedoo]

In a way it makes sense though. You have W10 base and "service packs" along. Why not upgrade to those. As far as updates it makes sense really, pushing updates be it whatever to latest "service pack" than to older versions.

[iRileyx]

10240 is what im running, rip.

 

Everytime i try to update it fails so guess i'll be stuck on this lol.

[AlTech]

26 minutes ago, RKRiley said:

10240 is what im running, rip.

 

Everytime i try to update it fails so guess i'll be stuck on this lol.

Contact MS support.

[captain_to_fire]

Meanwhile, OS X Yosemite (2014) and El Capitan (2015) are still supported, at least through receiving security patches and printer drivers only. Just saying. 

[Princess Luna]

6 hours ago, tlink said:

Because it reinstalls a bunch of bloatware I removed from the startmenu, its super annoying that it keeps forcing their apps onto me for things that are not needed. (Onenote, people, etc) it just clutters my start menu. (I'm also annoyed with the start menu in general but thats for another time).

Again, I never seen any of this happen, but then again I have classic shell and so on.

[NunoLava1998]

I'm using build 14393.953/version 1607. Phew.

[tlink]

5 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Again, I never seen any of this happen, but then again I have classic shell and so on.

normally i have no issues but windows 10 has just been super messy for me all around, no idea why. just non stop problems with anything system maintenance related. im going to reinstall soon anyways so lets hope that that fixes stuff.

[Silentprototipe]

*sigh* I knew it, MS and their BS again. Im just looking at the calendar until 2020.....Then I'm screwed to Windows 10, I dont wanna leave Win 7 ;-;

[Ithanul]

9 hours ago, Misanthrope said:

So is it "whining" and "hating" to assume this is so aggressive is almost violent to expect big companies to upgrade all of their machines every 2 years or less? 

 

Listen consumers on Windows 10 are fucked and know what they're in for, don't care about them.

 

On the enterprise however, rolling out company wide mandatory upgrades is a great way to basically piss off tons of managers and important people telling (with good reason) that their fucking production demands cannot fucking wait for an upgrade. People on large scale IT departments are constantly struggling to find windows of opportunity and such to push updates and I wouldn't be surprised if this greatly disrupted operations for many.

 

Of course I suspect that Microsoft will not really decline support to a large corporation that tells them "No fuck you, we can't upgrade right now but we need support"

I am curious how this going to affect large companies.  Heck, I wonder how the military going to handle it.  Our unit don't update OSes unless they go through a several years verification for stability and harding.

 

[vanished]

makes sense to me, and it's not like its unprecedented either. Windows 8 was cut off from future updates until you got 8.1 iirc, and I would assume similar things have happened in the past with xp, 7, etc, where once a service pack comes out, they're not going to continue updating the old version in parallel.

[vorticalbox]

5 hours ago, LAwLz said:

That's fucked up. It's like Microsoft gets off beating their customers.

I really doubt there is a technical reason for it, so it's probably just a threat from Microsoft.

microsoft gets in hot water when their OS isn't secure enough, a large part due to people not keeping up to date so they make changes so that computers are more up to date to protect the end user and again gets in hot water for "not letting me do what I want".

 

If you want control over your system the only place to go is linux.

[2FA]

7 hours ago, Sauron said:

One thing is rolling release, another is giving the finger to anyone who can't update for compatibility reasons. And while security updates are always welcome, garbage like ads in the start menu isn't and serves no purpose other than feeding greedy corporate pigs.

Does that mean I should be upset that Windows 10 doesn't run on my P4 machines? 

 

Also, you can turn off all of the "ads" and things in the base settings. 

[2FA]

2 hours ago, Ithanul said:

I am curious how this going to affect large companies.  Heck, I wonder how the military going to handle it.  Our unit don't update OSes unless they go through a several years verification for stability and harding.

 

I work for a school system. We have the anniversary update installed as part of our base image since we did the deployment of Windows 10 just after that came out. The deployment tools/guide didn't come out until just last Fall or sometime around then so I doubt very many organizations deployed the first build.

[Ithanul]

13 minutes ago, DeadEyePsycho said:

I work for a school system. We have the anniversary update installed as part of our base image since we did the deployment of Windows 10 just after that came out. The deployment tools/guide didn't come out until just last Fall or sometime around then so I doubt very many organizations deployed the first build.

No doubt.  But this rolling updates with this short time frame could be a serious issue for military systems.

The systems go through some long verification process before hooking into the network or updates are filtered down.  Our unit deployable systems have a longer process than the standard military network for verification as well.

 

Then again, there is a rumor floating about the W10 we are getting is a bit customized.  Will find out when the transition process begins.

[Teddy07]

windows 10 updated fucked me today.

My PC demanded suddenly a password after a restart. I had to use my laptop to reset my MS password and enter it. It took me 20 minutes to figure out why the fuck automatic login was disabled. In the end, I unchecked the automatic login box, restarted and checked the box again. It worked but WTF MS fix your shit.

[kameshss]

14 hours ago, deXxterlab97 said:

I am using 10586 if that's relevant. I disabled Windows update just because it was annoying af

I disabled Windows Update and I perform Clean Installation at when they release major updates. Never faced any "Security" problems because I didn't use Windows Update  Still clean af.

[ProjectBox153]

Sucks for me, I guess. I just installed build 10240 on my laptop, and really don't want to update. 

[LAwLz]

1 hour ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

makes sense to me, and it's not like its unprecedented either. Windows 8 was cut off from future updates until you got 8.1 iirc, and I would assume similar things have happened in the past with xp, 7, etc, where once a service pack comes out, they're not going to continue updating the old version in parallel.

But for Windows 8 to 8.1 and such, you could at least just run the update and be back in the game.

It seems like with this, you will have to do a complete reinstall. It sounds idiotic and I would not be surprised if it turns out you don't, but right now it seems like that's the case.

 

 

1 hour ago, vorticalbox said:

microsoft gets in hot water when their OS isn't secure enough, a large part due to people not keeping up to date so they make changes so that computers are more up to date to protect the end user and again gets in hot water for "not letting me do what I want".

 

If you want control over your system the only place to go is linux.

I don't see how disabling updates for users will make it more secure.

 

And no, I don't want to go GNU/Linux. I want Microsoft to fuck off with their "let's punish users if they don't do what we want" attitude. I want them to go back to the times when they just wanted to make the OS as good as possible for consumers. Not as good as they can for Microsoft.

 

 

1 hour ago, DeadEyePsycho said:

Also, you can turn off all of the "ads" and things in the base settings. 

I don't see why you put "ads" in quotes. They are ads.

The problem is that if people like you did not accept this then we wouldn't be in the situation where people need to disable ads, nor would the settings be spread out all over the OS. Want to turn off the ads for OneDrive? Oh you do that in the explorer settings. Want to turn off the ads in the start menu? You do that personalize settings. Want to turn off the lockscreen ads? You do that under background settings. I can't even remember where you turn off the ads for inc space or whatever it's called. I think you do that in the notification center.

[2FA]

12 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

I don't see why you put "ads" in quotes. They are ads.

The problem is that if people like you did not accept this then we wouldn't be in the situation where people need to disable ads, nor would the settings be spread out all over the OS. Want to turn off the ads for OneDrive? Oh you do that in the explorer settings. Want to turn off the ads in the start menu? You do that personalize settings. Want to turn off the lockscreen ads? You do that under background settings. I can't even remember where you turn off the ads for inc space or whatever it's called. I think you do that in the notification center.

lol blame other users more why don't you, that will really gain their support

 

I don't fundamentally dislike all ads, only ones that annoy me. They do not annoy as I can turn them off and they are unobtrusive for me.