Ryzen Threadripper PRO 3995WX spotted, allegedly on new socket/chipset

[Mateyyy]

An alleged AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 3995WX has been spotted earlier today, featuring a new socket in the form of sWRX8 that will be coming on new motherboards equipped with the WRX80 chipset.

It will support 8-channel ECC DDR4, handling up to 2 terabytes of capacity, and is set to be announced as early as July 14th.

None of this has been confirmed officially by AMD as of yet.

 

 

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The Threadripper PRO 3995X is expected to have a mostly identical I/O to the most expensive EPYC 7662 processor. As a Ryzen-branded chip, it could feature higher clock speeds than its EPYC counterpart. To enable its 8-channel memory, the processor could come with a new socket, likely the sWRX8, and AMD WRX80 chipset, although it wouldn't surprise us if these processors have some form of inter-compatibility with sTRX4 and TRX40 (at limited memory bandwidth and PCIe capabilities, of course). Sources tell VideoCardz that AMD could announce the Ryzen Threadripper PRO series as early as July 14, 2020. (via Techpowerup)

 

Sounds like quite a beast for the prosumer market, though I'm not sure how they'll justify bridging the gap between Threadripper and EPYC to be honest, considering this will most likely come in at quite the hefty price point, including the new chipset/socket.

 

Sources:

https://www.techpowerup.com/269557/amd-ryzen-threadripper-pro-3995wx-processor-pictured-8-channel-ddr4

https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-threadripper-3995wx-pro-cpu-spotted-8-channel-memory-wrx80-platform/

https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/amd_s_reportedly_launching_a_threadripper_pro_3995wx_cpu_with_8-channel_memory_support/1

https://twitter.com/9550pro/status/1280706446515036160

 

 

Update: A new leak now reveals the entire new Threadripper PRO line-up. (https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-threadripper-pro-3000-final-specifications-leaked)

 

AMD is set to release four different SKUs for the Threadripper PRO line-up:

• 3995WX - 64C/128T, 2.7/4.2GHz base/boost clocks and 288MB of total cache
• 3975WX - 32C/64T, 3.5/4.2GHz base/boost clocks and 144MB of total cache
• 3955WX - 16C/32T, 3.9/4.3GHz base/boost clocks and 72MB of total cache
• 3945WX - 12C/24T, 4.0/4.3GHz base/boost clocks and 70MB of total cache

All of these chips are rated for a 280W TDP and will provide 128 PCIe 4.0 lanes, double what current-gen Threadripper does.

 

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The Threadripper PRO series will support up 128 PCIe 4.0 lanes, a double of what the consumer series supported. More changes are coming to the memory support. The Threadripper PRO series will support up to 2TB of UDIMM (Unbuffered DIMM), RDIMM (Registered DIMM), LRDIMM (Load-Reduced DIMM) and 3DS (three-dimensional stacking) RDIMM EEC memory.

Similarly to Ryzen PRO, Threadripper PRO will feature AMD PRO Technologies, such as Pro Security, Pro manageability, or PRO business ready (software stability and planned availability). (via videocardz.com)

 

Leaked AMD slides:

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[Haro]

2 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

including the new chipset/socket.

Why one more?

[Eighjan]

Are these not likely to be Epyc parts?

[Eighjan]

Just now, TofuHaroto said:

Why one more?

... killing off Epyc...?

[Mateyyy]

2 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

Why one more?

To enable 8-channel memory.

Or rather for even more product segmentation and a little more confusion I guess lol

 

2 minutes ago, Eighjan said:

Are these not likely to be Epyc parts?

That's what I was thinking too, these sound way too similar to EPYC for me to understand why they'd bring out this whole new lineup.

[Haro]

1 minute ago, Mateyyy said:

and a little more confusion I guess lol

Always love that.

[Eighjan]

4 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

To enable 8-channel memory.

Is Threadripper only 4-channel...?

[Mateyyy]

1 minute ago, Eighjan said:

Is Threadripper only 4-channel...?

Yes, it supports quad-channel max, just like Intel's X299 HEDT platform.

[Fasauceome]

Intel: You can't just go and create new product segments that didn't exist on the market while we were dominant!

 

AMD: Haha cores go brrrrr

[Eighjan]

1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

Intel: You can't just go and create new product segments that didn't exist on the market while we were dominant!

 

AMD: Haha cores go brrrrr

Also AMD:  Hold our beer...

[zeusthemoose]

2 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

Intel: You can't just go and create new product segments that didn't exist on the market!

 

AMD: Haha cores go brrrrr

Intel: 

[cj09beira]

47 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

Why one more?

6 channel ram and registered memory (for higher capacities) its the last advantage that intel has on the hedt line outside of avx 512, this move will remove that advantage 

[williamcll]

So it's a high performance 7742(p? I've forgot how the naming works)

[Mateyyy]

3 minutes ago, williamcll said:

So it's a high performance 7742(p? I've forgot how the naming works)

By the looks of it, yeah.

[BigDamn]

If you thought 2020 was bad for you, imagine being Intel...damn.

[soldier_ph]

2 hours ago, TofuHaroto said:

Why one more?

Because we like Intel Shitting their Pants 

[Unixsystem]

Interesting. We heard a bunch of rumors about WRX8 before TR3 launched but after they announced the 3990 I had assumed that it had been scrapped. Market segmentation is annoying but considering that this is presumably serving a market that doesn't currently exist its hard to get too up in arms.

[Salv8 (sam)]

6 hours ago, Mateyyy said:

handling up to 2 terabytes of capacity

that is getting very close to my mass storage size.

note to self: transfer mass storage to ram disk when available for those fast speeds and ability to lose all data when power goes out.

[GDRRiley]

so they are making a WS version of a full epyc chip if this is true. cool I guess but they are going to need some clockspeed bumps to make sense.

[nick name]

If you're gonna have a bunch of $40k 100 TB SSDs in RAID then you need to have 2 TB of RAM.  Obviously.  

[leadeater]

16 hours ago, cj09beira said:

6 channel ram and registered memory (for higher capacities) its the last advantage that intel has on the hedt line outside of avx 512, this move will remove that advantage 

Intel HEDT is only 4 channel and unregistered memory. Only the Xeons carry that memory channel count and support for RDIMMs. And if you start throwing Xeons around in workstations there is no reason to not throw around EPYCs too.

 

If this is going to exist the only reason is the extra memory channels to support more total memory, basically it. Threadripper actually has too many cores for the maximum support memory.

 

EPYC will still have the dual socket support and RDIMM/LDRIMM support along with more PCIe lanes. As long as any Threadripper parts don't touch any one of those 3 things EPYC sales will not be affected.

[Doobeedoo]

8-channel feeding cores and 2TB on consumer-ish platform. Insane. Even more lanes too. 

[Loote]

EPYC XT

I don't think more memory channels justify a completely new platform, but we shall know in a week.

[leadeater]

3 minutes ago, Loote said:

EPYC XT

I don't think more memory channels justify a completely new platform, but we shall know in a week.

It doesn't but sadly it's also a necessity to actually do it. All current boards are wired to the socket in a way that will only support 4 channels so to do 8 requires new boards with new layout (minor ish) and at that point you might as well update as much as you can while you're at it since you are doing it anyway.

 

Still rather skeptical though, Threadripper Pro might be a real thing but the rest could also just be made up speculation.

[Loote]

Of course, I'd just expect they'd fix this in the next generation as Zen 3 is supposed to come out this year, but it could also be the platform that Zen 3 Thredrippers and Zen 2 Threadrippers with additional memory channels will work on.

I'm just trying to look for a reason for such thing, not saying any of this will happen.