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Will fake Apple stand trafic become a thing?

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Like, people illegally manufacturing Apple stand lookalikes for $20 and selling them cheaper than a legit Apple stand, but still several hundreds of dollars?

I know if I was a gangster, that's what I'd do. Thankfully, I'm just your average disgusting anime-watching nerd with acne, bathing in his sweat, half-naked in his mother's basement. What a relief!

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To be honest, I doubt it. The new Mac Pro starts at $6000, and can go up to $20,000 for a full config. If you've got $20,000 dollars to blow on your computer, I'm betting you also have another $999 in between the cushions of your couch. 

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41 minutes ago, bellabichon said:

To be honest, I doubt it. The new Mac Pro starts at $6000, and can go up to $20,000 for a full config. If you've got $20,000 dollars to blow on your computer, I'm betting you also have another $999 in between the cushions of your couch. 

Like other peeps have pointed out, big enterprise people usually don't care much about the cost. They're going to use it for years anyways, so long as it works and has good service behind it they'll buy some pretty expensive stuff. The old Mac Pros went up to $10K each and people still bought those, heck there's even a big enough demand for actual Apple hardware based servers that some peeps buy a bunch of the old trash can bois and built racks specifically to hold them (I think LTT has done some videos on them). 

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The chinese term that is currently porting into the English language is Shanzahi.  Not quite counterfeiting. Or “we don’t really care if it’s actually going to fool anyone who doesn’t actually want to be fooled”. counterfeiting typified by extremely cheap low reliability manufacture and dangerously cheap or outright dangerous parts.

Think wish.com.

 

The stand is pointless without the monitor though.  I suspect many companies will make stands.  Apple likes limited third party involvement when it doesn’t mess with their systems or make for repairs.  They loved external hard drives.  The first consumer hard drive enclosures were sized specifically to fit nicely under a 68k box Mac.  The high price was probably intentional to make room for just this kind of thing.  They’ve done such things before.

ill be astounded if Logitech doesn’t make one.

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Nothing stopping you from sending a cease and desist letter.

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3 minutes ago, williamcll said:

Nothing stopping you from sending a cease and desist letter.

Does nothing in china lol

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5 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

Does nothing in china lol

Send it in China, works half the time.

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19 minutes ago, williamcll said:

Send it in China, works half the time.

Ha

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I challenge you to design and manufacture a stand that’s carved completely out of a single block of aluminum that uses no screws or latches for less than $1000. 

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28 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

I challenge you to design and manufacture a stand that’s carved completely out of a single block of aluminum that uses no screws or latches for less than $1000. 

Is that how they make it!?  Pricing is a whole other issue, that just sounds incredibly stupid and wasteful.

 

Like, am I understanding this correctly?

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Also it does appear to have screws

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22 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Also it does appear to have screws

the question is then. does it have screws at the bottom? or any kind of mounting. 

 

the question is then, would people mind if it was 2 pieces, if it was also half the price?

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1 hour ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Like, am I understanding this correctly?

We can extrapolate that Apple can make 2 stands with roughly that amount of material by having the feet of the stands on opposite ends....but in short, yes. That’s how Apple makes them. 
 

 Also my mention a lack of screws was meant to refer to the attachment of the foot to the neck of the stand. They are fused because they are the same piece of metal. The hinge mechanism obviously has screws. 

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1 hour ago, GoldenLag said:

the question is then. does it have screws at the bottom? or any kind of mounting. 

Nope. The neck and foot are one piece of metal. That’s why the stand is so expensive. 
 

There are obviously going to need to be screws for the hinge mechanism. 

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1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

Nope. The neck and foot are one piece of metal. That’s why the stand is so expensive. 
 

There are obviously going to need to be screws for the hinge mechanism. 

that complicates the contruction a lot. 

 

its very cool tho. 

 

doubt they make it from a cube of metal, i expect them to cut up L shaped pieces to then be milled. 

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Does it even matter? I personally think it's gonna sell surprisingly few units to the point pirating the stand sounds rather pointless... it doesn't even look that good tbh, don't really see any mainstream PC build going for this sort of display aesthetics.

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5 hours ago, Genwyn said:

As a guy who used to work in a CNC shop, that is the dumbest shit I’ve ever seen.

That is an unbelievably large amount of waste cut material to recycle, those shits have to take 15+ minutes of cutting each.

 

You could accomplish the same thing with just sheet cuts and welding with nearly no material waste and probably at 1/100th of the cost including finishing and surfacing the entire thing.

Yeah but it's apple. And not that much waste, huge block aluminum and cut out a few. Other than the foot I doubt what the arm connects to is part of the L shape, probably epoxied in.

but yes very dumb manufacturing process in a dumb country by sorrowful workers in a dumb factory purchased by idiots.

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4 hours ago, Tegos said:

Overly-complicated build process and unnecessary waste of materials justifies the absurd price tag.

It's not wasted. The fillings and shavings are recycled and 100% reusable 

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6 hours ago, Genwyn said:

As a guy who used to work in a CNC shop, that is the dumbest shit I’ve ever seen.

That is an unbelievably large amount of waste cut material to recycle, those shits have to take 15+ minutes of cutting each.

 

You could accomplish the same thing with just sheet cuts and welding with nearly no material waste and probably at 1/100th of the cost including finishing and surfacing the entire thing.

I have a feeling it's not what people think it is, but that's beside the point. They probably have actual molds to reduce the waste, and then mill the rest. 

 

Like if Apple is being green, being stupidly wasteful this way would be anything but being green since the energy use to recycle the metal would still be energy used that didn't need to. The cost for this alone isn't justified no matter how cool the product is.

 

Which puts into question everything else Apple makes out of Aluminum.

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2 hours ago, BuckGup said:

It's not wasted. The fillings and shavings are recycled and 100% reusable 

They are, but it still costs time and money to cut more material than would otherwise be necessary, and to then recycle those shavings.

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On 11/8/2019 at 4:08 PM, Ryan_Vickers said:

They are, but it still costs time and money to cut more material than would otherwise be necessary, and to then recycle those shavings.

but...but muh aesthoticcs

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