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What the hell. How is someone being a cock sucker a homophobic slur? For all we know, they do like to suck cock.

I've said it before, and unfortunately, I'll probably say it again.

The world is becoming too fucking soft.


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Just now, dizmo said:

What the hell. How is someone being a cock sucker a homophobic slur? For all we know, they do like to suck cock.

I've said it before, and unfortunately, I'll probably say it again.

The world is becoming too fucking soft.

That's actually not the part he got banned for. 

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Deadmau5 reportedly accused a player of stream sniping, adding that they were a "fucking cock-sucking stream sniper f**". 

 

"while it was intended to insult a fuckin asshat who was being a fucking asshat.... it wasn’t “directed at an entire group of people who have a sexual orientation that differs from my own” fuck off with that shit.

On topic, the Floatplane Website has a ways to go to be ready for live streaming AFAIK, so Twitch streamers are not likely to jump ship from a platform that's less likey to be an asshat regarding freedom of content. Floatplane is more of an alternative to Youtube in that regard.


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1 hour ago, dizmo said:

What the hell. How is someone being a cock sucker a homophobic slur? For all we know, they do like to suck cock.

I've said it before, and unfortunately, I'll probably say it again.

 The world is becoming too fucking soft.

Not only that, but it's not like he said that to a random innocent guy. Stream snipers (minus shroud's stream snipers) are generally super annoying for the streamer.


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1 hour ago, dizmo said:

What the hell. How is someone being a cock sucker a homophobic slur

because we all know that only males give oral to other males


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1 hour ago, TVwazhere said:

That's actually not the part he got banned for.

Really? *shrug* that's what I gathered from the link.

3 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Not only that, but it's not like he said that to a random innocent guy. Stream snipers (minus shroud's stream snipers) are generally super annoying for the streamer.

Exactly. It'll be interesting to see what insults are like in 10, or 20 years. It's also not like insults disappear; people simply make up new ones that mean the same thing.

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because we all know that only males give oral to other males

Haha, that also ignores the whole bi section of society.


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2 hours ago, dizmo said:

What the hell. How is someone being a cock sucker a homophobic slur? For all we know, they do like to suck cock.

I've said it before, and unfortunately, I'll probably say it again.

The world is becoming too fucking soft.

I get that he got really upset from being stream sniped, and I think Twitch could have banned him for like a week or whatever and he could have apologized for it.

I agree with the last part, people are getting too offended and won't even accept an apology for something that could have been much better dealt with than completely banning the streamer from Twitch. Although since Twitch wants to make a statement with someone famous,and have a no tolerance policy with no exceptions, there probably wasn't much other choice and like Youtube, Twitch has to keep their advertisers satisfied at the expense of the content creators.

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So he got banned for saying fag in a GAME and attention looking whores who stream ''content'' that is 99% close of being porn and make money with it (just prostitution with extra steps and no sex) aren't.....

 

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Yeah I'm sure that's the kind of fucking minefield Luke wants to waltz right into: Embrace a very famous musician that's just been disgraced for indefensible fucking homophobic slurs.

 

Sorry to hurt the sentiments of the freezed peach crowd over here but this would make 0 financial sense as it would turn away a lot of the current and potential business for both floatplane and LTT going from 'friendly, harmless and intentionally politically neutral tech haven' right into 'Free Speech platform waiting to be taken over by flaming Nazis' just like gab.

 

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18 hours ago, Misanthrope said:

Embrace a very famous musician that's just been disgraced for indefensible fucking homophobic slurs.

Context matters. He didn't find a gay person and call him a "fucking cock-sucking fag". That would obviously be messed up. Getting stream sniped is probably one of the most annoying things that can happen to a streamer. I believe that he was constantly getting stream sniped that day, he got upset and cussed out one of the stream snipers. Hell, he had even set his stream to 18+, so the ban doesn't make a lot of sense TBH.


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3 hours ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Context matters. He didn't find a gay person and call him a "fucking cock-sucking fag". That would obviously be messed up. Getting stream sniped is probably one of the most annoying things that can happen to a streamer. I believe that he was constantly getting stream sniped that day, he got upset and cussed out one of the stream snipers. Hell, he had even set his stream to 18+, so the ban doesn't make a lot of sense TBH.

100% agree

People calling it an attack on queers and homophobic, i've never understood. 

The whole argument that just because somebody used a slur whos original definition is based in such things doesn't mean they actually intend those things. The overwhelming majority of the time when we use insults we don't actually mean the underlying definition or the thing it references back to. The term f*g in modern speech has lost almost any of its original meaning and just means somebody who's wholy annoying or disrespectful

 

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I think that the most important thing is the meaning behind our words, not the words themselves. I understand completely, but I think that using that phrase or any other "slur" is fine if you don't mean it in a meaningful way. Especially in art. 

 

and I find the concept of "the right to use a slur" ridiculous. If my black friends call each other "nigga", why can't I join in? I clearly mean that in a friendly way, I just want to feel like I belong.

 

And I don't classify that as "reverse racism".


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On 2/15/2019 at 4:28 PM, PCGuy_5960 said:

Context matters. He didn't find a gay person and call him a "fucking cock-sucking fag". That would obviously be messed up. Getting stream sniped is probably one of the most annoying things that can happen to a streamer. I believe that he was constantly getting stream sniped that day, he got upset and cussed out one of the stream snipers. Hell, he had even set his stream to 18+, so the ban doesn't make a lot of sense TBH.

Here's my take.

 

The word "fag" is a insulting homophobic slur. No matter how people in the gaming community use it.

 

Just because it wasn't directed at a gay person doesn't make it okay.

 

Would it be okay for me to call someone the "N-Word", as long as they weren't black? Fuck no. That's racist as fuck no matter who I'm saying it to. So why is it okay to use homophobic slurs in that way?

 

If you want to call someone an "N-Word" or Fag or some other socially offensive term in private? Go ahead. No one cares and as long as it's private and doesn't hurt anyone, it really doesn't matter.

 

But he said it on a public live stream. It wasn't just him and his buddies.

 

And I get it - he was mad. He wanted to swear. To insult the person. When I was younger, I too made the mistake of using slurs and other insulting terms without thinking about what those terms meant. But he's not a 12 year old. He's an adult. He should know better.

 

Now, I happen to like Deadmau5. I think he seems like an otherwise really cool dude. But that doesn't excuse this. And his non-apology really is just icing on the cake.

 

Stream sniping sucks. But that's no excuse for using homophobic slurs. And no, I don't believe that Deadmau5 is specifically or intentionally homophobic. But he doesn't seem to understand why maybe he shouldn't say those words.

 

And if he does say those words, a lot of people aren't going to be happy about it. Consequences of your actions, my friends.


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8 hours ago, dalekphalm said:

Here's my take.

  

The word "fag" is a insulting homophobic slur. No matter how people in the gaming community use it.

  

Just because it wasn't directed at a gay person doesn't make it okay.

  

Would it be okay for me to call someone the "N-Word", as long as they weren't black? Fuck no. That's racist as fuck no matter who I'm saying it to. So why is it okay to use homophobic slurs in that way?

The n-word is a bit different TBH. The reason why it's unacceptable is because of the history behind it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but "fag" doesn't have a history of slavery behind it. "Fag" comes from faggot, which means a bundle of sticks, so IMO, it's hardly a slur.

 

And I would argue that outside of the US, the n-word doesn't have as much meaning.

8 hours ago, dalekphalm said:

If you want to call someone an "N-Word" or Fag or some other socially offensive term in private? Go ahead. No one cares and as long as it's private and doesn't hurt anyone, it really doesn't matter.

  

But he said it on a public live stream. It wasn't just him and his buddies.

 

 And I get it - he was mad. He wanted to swear. To insult the person. When I was younger, I too made the mistake of using slurs and other insulting terms without thinking about what those terms meant. But he's not a 12 year old. He's an adult. He should know better.

Yes, he said it on his live stream, in which he swears all the time. Every other word he says on stream is "fucking" or "fuck". It's just who he is. Deadmau5 swears all the time.

8 hours ago, dalekphalm said:

Now, I happen to like Deadmau5. I think he seems like an otherwise really cool dude. But that doesn't excuse this. And his non-apology really is just icing on the cake.

  

 Stream sniping sucks. But that's no excuse for using homophobic slurs. And no, I don't believe that Deadmau5 is specifically or intentionally homophobic. But he doesn't seem to understand why maybe he shouldn't say those words.

  

 And if he does say those words, a lot of people aren't going to be happy about it. Consequences of your actions, my friends.

Still think that a ban because he accidentally said one word on stream is too much. A warning or something like that would make more sense TBH.


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17 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

The n-word is a bit different TBH. The reason why it's unacceptable is because of the history behind it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but "fag" doesn't have a history of slavery behind it. "Fag" comes from faggot, which means a bundle of sticks, so IMO, it's hardly a slur.

C'mon... really?

 

Yes, "Faggot" used to mean bundle of sticks. But decades ago it became a descriptor for a homosexual person. I know this. You know this. We all know this.

 

Don't pretend you don't know that "Fag" means a gay person - and NOT as a compliment. It meant you were broken or disgusting or wrong, because of your sexuality.

 

It's 100% a homophobic slur.

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And I would argue that outside of the US, the n-word doesn't have as much meaning.

Hoooookay we'll have to disagree strongly there. Just because other countries aren't too concerned with a super racist word doesn't make it okay.

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Yes, he said it on his live stream, in which he swears all the time. Every other word he says on stream is "fucking" or "fuck". It's just who he is. Deadmau5 swears all the time.

Yeah and "fuck" isn't a slur used against a specific group. "Fuck" isn't racist or homophobic or much of anything really. It's just a nice, generally non-offensive (offensive in the ethical kind, not the "That was rude!" kind) insult.

 

Fuck and "fag" are in no way comparable.

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Still think that a ban because he accidentally said one word on stream is too much. A warning or something like that would make more sense TBH.

It's a temporary suspension. Hopefully it'll make him think before saying something homophobic. His suspension is probably almost over by now anyway.

 

Say fuck or shit or damn or any number of other readily available insults/curse words that aren't massively offensive to a minority or specific sub-set of humanity, and people won't really care.

 

But he needs to cut out that homophobic bullshit. It has no place.


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11 hours ago, dalekphalm said:

Would it be okay for me to call someone the "N-Word", as long as they weren't black? Fuck no. That's racist as fuck no matter who I'm saying it to. So why is it okay to use homophobic slurs in that way?

Considering it was specifically coined to put down a black person, anyone that does call a white person N****r is caveman stupid and any black person that gets triggered from that interaction is equally daft.

 

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On 2/20/2019 at 2:24 AM, dalekphalm said:

C'mon... really?

  

Yes, "Faggot" used to mean bundle of sticks. But decades ago it became a descriptor for a homosexual person. I know this. You know this. We all know this.

  

Don't pretend you don't know that "Fag" means a gay person - and NOT as a compliment. It meant you were broken or disgusting or wrong, because of your sexuality.

 

It's 100% a homophobic slur.

Yes, but it's original meaning isn't a slur, as opposed to the n-word, which is why I think the n-word is not really comparable to "fag"

On 2/20/2019 at 2:24 AM, dalekphalm said:

Hoooookay we'll have to disagree strongly there. Just because other countries aren't too concerned with a super racist word doesn't make it okay.

Didn't say that it was okay.

On 2/20/2019 at 2:24 AM, dalekphalm said:

Yeah and "fuck" isn't a slur used against a specific group. "Fuck" isn't racist or homophobic or much of anything really. It's just a nice, generally non-offensive (offensive in the ethical kind, not the "That was rude!" kind) insult.

  

Fuck and "fag" are in no way comparable.

My point was, deadmau5 swears a lot, so the fact that something slipped through isn't very surprising. 


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