Experiences with non-techies

[WkdPaul]

If an internal network is to the internet what breakfast is to dinner in your analogy then I guess that's true... However that's inaccurate since the internet is a collection of internal networks so using your analogy it'd be more like dinner consists of multiple breakfasts.

Going off-track, basically a dinner table is an inappropriate analogy.

After I read his reply I just assumed he was trollin ... EDIT ; no you but soup!

[Rohit Jackdaw]

The age old misconception still remains. More VRAM=Better Performance. I just feel like to kick my friends ass when compares my 760 and says my card has only 2 GB of memory while his cheap GPU has 1GB memory and always says I was cheated by the online retailer who gave me this card. He says a 2GB card comes at around 50$ and I should have gone with it instead of spending money on this card.

[soup]

Going off-track, basically a dinner table is an inappropriate analogy.

I am not using the dinner table as an internet (indeed any network) analogy I am just saying that a thing's name does not (or rather need not)describe everything that thing can do.

 

And no @wkdpaul I am not trolling .  I genuinelly believe that something does not have to have everything it does in its name/title.

[WkdPaul]

I am not using the dinner table as an internet (indeed any network) analogy I am just saying that a thing's name does not (or rather need not)describe everything that thing can do.

 

And no @wkdpaul I am not trolling .  I genuinelly believe that something does not have to have everything it does in its name/title.

if you're not trolling than maybe you should use better examples, a "diner table" has the correct name (it wasn't "invented" last decade!). Look at the etymology of the word "dine" ; it just meant (back then) "to eat a meal".

 

Basically your point would have made sense if the WiFi French translation had been done 400-500 years ago.

 

back to topic PLEASE!

[jayctech]

I am not using the dinner table as an internet (indeed any network) analogy I am just saying that a thing's name does not (or rather need not)describe everything that thing can do.

 

I genuinelly believe that something does not have to have everything it does in its name/title.

While I generally agree with this, in this situation it's misleading because "internet connectivity" is more of a side effect rather than its actual purpose and typically when naming something it'd make more sense for the name to incorporate or imply its actual/main purpose (I haven't given this much thought, but it'd be like calling a screwdriver an opener or something because you can use it like a crowbar to open things).

[MDPS]

@MDPS

The 960 can output 4K at 60Hz. It can play video at 4K 60Hz, it can game at 4K 60Hz, but at low settings and older games. So can the 760, the 270(x)... even the plain old GTX 750 can do 1600p over DVI-I.

Okay perhaps that was the wrong analogy as I didn't do too much research on the 960. I have one myself and didn't realize it had these capabilities. In fact I may want a 2k monitor now since my GPU supports it . The point is that a console has the same graphics no matter what you use it on, be it games or videos or whatever else (if there is much more use).

[soup]

"internet connectivity" is more of a side effect rather than its actual purpose and typically when naming something it'd make more sense for the name to incorporate or imply its actual/main purpose

Surely its main purpose IS to connect to the Internet. Yes it can be used to just to connect to local networks, but in 99% of cases it is to allow internet access.

 Anyway you can have the last word as this is getting wildly of topic and I will no longer reply.

[jayctech]

Okay perhaps that was the wrong analogy as I didn't do too much research on the 960. I have one myself and didn't realize it had these capabilities. In fact I may want a 2k monitor now since my GPU supports it . The point is that a console has the same graphics no matter what you use it on, be it games or videos or whatever else (if there is much more use).

Its max output resolution could be the same, but that doesn't mean it can render games at that same max output (in the case of Nvidia and their downsampling, the opposite is even possible). Anyway, this is both no longer experience with non-techies, it has also spun off completely from what the original point was.

 

Surely its main purpose IS to connect to the Internet. Yes it can be used to just to connect to local networks, but in 99% of cases it is to allow internet access.

 Anyway you can have the last word as this is getting wildly of topic and I will no longer reply.

Fair enough.

[minibois]

reminds me of the french official translation for WiFi, it was back in 2005 that they ("La commission générale de terminologie et de néologie", in France) decided that WiFi would become ASFI in French ... ASFI = "Accès Sans Fil à Internet" which translate to Wireless Internet Acces, but WiFi ≠ internet.

 

sigh ... if at least they would have found something closer to wireless NETWORK access!!!

 

Just shows that some people in charge SHOULD ask domain specialist when doing stuff like this because that definition spreads misconception to the mass!

 

but yeah, plebs in general will associate WiFi to internet, whatever the question is, when they hear "internet" they will think WiFi ...

In France it pretty much has always been WiFi

[IMPERIUS]

Love it when my friends use Inspect Element to "hack" websites and show off to me saying they can do anything they want. My usual comback is to disconnect their IP in Command Prompt and basically just say "Bro. You're such a good hacker. Now figure out how to get yo internets back." then just walk away. Its especially hillarious when their first move is to try and search online with google. *facedesk*

 

how do you do that? 

[Chugle]

-snip-

I couldn't understand half of what you said. By the way, how does this: "Some of the most immature people I've met, and even then, they were 14/15-ish.", statement make any sense when you yourself should be 14 at this year. You said that you were in the first grade in 2007 and you enter the first grade at age 6 so... You get the point. TOP confusios 

[MDPS]

how do you do that?

EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY:

Magic. Duh.

[WkdPaul]

In France it pretty much has always been WiFi

same in Quebec, but they did pass that "AISF" as the official WiFi translation, my point was that non-techies don't know the difference between WiFi and the Internet!!

[Chugle]

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Well I didn't know that grade 1 starts at age 7 where you're from. But that's besides the point. M8... Grab open up a word document and just type a fucking book, because that was fucking brilliant. Although most of your assumptions about me were incorrect, and pretty much everything was subjective. I'm not some broken down old man bruv, I'm a 14 year old from Toronto.

[Vivilacqua1]

But that's besides the point. M8... Grab open up a word document and just type a fucking book, because that was fucking brilliant.

[Joshndroid]

mods, delete the childish back and forth within the thread, its taking away from the thread as a whole.

 

As for non-techies, have been continuously asked how to use, how to download, how to change settings, basically how to use a samsung s5 by the inlaw for the last year and bit. Everytime an app needs an update, everytime something on TV talks about updates, issues, bla bla, i get asked its application on the phone. You name it she can;'t do it. I provided a smart alec tidbit back to her the other day that "maybe for next phone you should just get an iphone, you clearly still dont know how to use it after a year and a half' boy did that go down well.

 

unfortunately truth hurts, as they say.

 

probably shouldnt have said it, but there is only so many times you can show a person which app is the updating app (ie google play)...

[minibois]

same in Quebec, but they did pass that "AISF" as the official WiFi translation, my point was that non-techies don't know the difference between WiFi and the Internet!!

My brother always says that too when we are in the city..

"Oh, they have WiFi in that restaurant. I wonder if they have internet too."

[BurgerBum]

My brother always says that too when we are in the city..

"Oh, they have WiFi in that restaurant. I wonder if they have internet too."

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[Nuluvius]

My brother always says that too when we are in the city..

"Oh, they have WiFi in that restaurant. I wonder if they have internet too."

 

[minibois]

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My stepmom at a hotel, "I can't connect to the wifi, so they must not have internet though they have wifi and I can get a signal.  However, I can't figure out how to connect!"  <.<  Ya, that's because there's a password.

He's not a non techy though. He is serious.

Because WiFi is just the way of connecting to another device (for example router), but if that router is not connected to the internet, you still don't have internet. So you can have WiFi without internet.. If that makes any sense.

[Nuluvius]

He's not a non techy though. He is serious.

Because WiFi is just the way of connecting to another device (for example router), but if that router is not connected to the internet, you still don't have internet. So you can have WiFi without internet.. If that makes any sense.

 

[Kirya]

please stop being offtopic and spam this chat,

by extend people say wifi = internet, who care if it's not true ?

[burnttoastnice]

Anytime I open CMD on one of our schools computer, everyone's like; "Oh shit he's hacking the computer!".

 

I plugged a Raspbery Pi into a display at my college and a rather illiterate teacher came along and unplugged it, as well as accusing me of hacking. She thinks being plugged into the AC socket means I'm on the "school network".

[Chugle]

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What ego trip? I simply stated that I couldn't read what you said because it was typed very poorly, and you interpret that as me initiating a "flame war". 

[Ceatra]

I plugged a Raspbery Pi into a display at my college and a rather illiterate teacher came along and unplugged it, as well as accusing me of hacking. She thinks being plugged into the AC socket means I'm on the "school network".

Aaaaaaaaaaaaand....

 

I lost faith in humanity :mellow: