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Yes, you can get cancer from wifi, cellular, FM radio, basically any rf emitter. Now there are set limitations for every device specific to the FCC standards. There is a reason why all WiFi routers basically have the same power output / range. WiFi actually runs close the the 2,4ghz frequency of microwaves, so your phone is technically slowly microwave ing you at 2.5 watts. Apparently some kid in Asia last year climbed a cell tower, and stuck his head in front of the transmitter. He basically microwaved himself instantly, with a 30 kw transmitter.

we're talking consumer electronics here, not high power transmitters. specifically wifi routers, cellphones and the sort

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I was in a store, someone was buying CPU. I heard his conversation with the seller:

"Hey! What do you need?"

"I need a CPU."

"Ok, what CPU?"

"I want to buy Intel CPU."

"Which one? i3? i5? i7?"

"I heard that i7 is damn expensive, how about i5? Or maybe i3?

"Well i5 is worse than i7 but the price is cheaper, it's Rp. ___ (I forgot the price), it's quad cores too!"

"Wow that's expensive, how about i3?"

"i3 performs even worse, dual cores, can't do sh*t, but it's a lot cheaper, it's Rp. ___ (I forgot the price)."

"Wow, okay. Do you sell i4?"

"What?"

"i4, yeah i4."

"Sorry, we don't sell i4." -The seller started to get confused

"Okay then, because I don't want a CPU that's as expensive as i5 but not as worse as i3."

"There's no i4 here." -The seller started to feel weird

"Okay then, see ya!"

"Okay then, have a good day...." -The seller tried to not laugh

He was trying to search for i4 in every single store, I know that because I followed him (I wanted to know more) every seller he'd been into became f*cking confused :P

He said i4 with confident, trying hard to find this CPU.

Couldn't stop laughing behind him :P

Ah, Indonesians. Sometimes I'm ashamed to be one
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Ah, Indonesians. Sometimes I'm ashamed to be one

No need to be ashamed, it's just 1 dude, not all Indonesians are like that :3

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Fresh outta the oven:

 

All CPU coolers are the same

All fans are the same

Watercooling is worse than air cooling. always.

All cases are the same. They're just metal boxes painted in different colors with different plastic bits

Macs are superior to PCs for everything (I fell off my chain laughing when I heard this. nojoke)

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Recently got an accommodation offer for my Uni. I sent an email asking (among other things) if they had wired access points for internet..

 

Their response:

we do have wired access points for the Wi-Fi

 

I don't know what to make of it tbh...

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Recently got an accommodation offer for my Uni. I sent an email asking (among other things) if they had wired access points for internet..

 

Their response:

 

 

 

I don't know what to make of it tbh...

reminds me of the french official translation for WiFi, it was back in 2005 that they ("La commission générale de terminologie et de néologie", in France) decided that WiFi would become ASFI in French ... ASFI = "Accès Sans Fil à Internet" which translate to Wireless Internet Acces, but WiFi ≠ internet.

 

sigh ... if at least they would have found something closer to wireless NETWORK access!!!

 

Just shows that some people in charge SHOULD ask domain specialist when doing stuff like this because that definition spreads misconception to the mass!

 

but yeah, plebs in general will associate WiFi to internet, whatever the question is, when they hear "internet" they will think WiFi ...

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reminds me of the french official translation for WiFi, it was back in 2005 that they ("La commission générale de terminologie et de néologie", in France) decided that WiFi would become ASFI in French ... ASFI = "Accès Sans Fil à Internet" which translate to Wireless Internet Acces, but WiFi ≠ internet.

 

sigh ... if at least they would have found something closer to wireless NETWORK access!!!

 

Just shows that some people in charge SHOULD ask domain specialist when doing stuff like this because that definition spreads misconception to the mass!

 

but yeah, plebs in general will associate WiFi to internet, whatever the question is, when they hear "internet" they will think WiFi ...

My concern is whether I can actually believe her that there's a wired access point. :P

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reminds me of the french official translation for WiFi, it was back in 2005 that they ("La commission générale de terminologie et de néologie", in France) decided that WiFi would become ASFI in French ... ASFI = "Accès Sans Fil à Internet" which translate to Wireless Internet Acces, but WiFi ≠ internet.

I don't see a problem with this. WiFi (does anyone else think that's a ridiculous name?) does give wireless access to the internet, agreed that's not all it does, but surely anything's name does not contain EVERYTHING it can do.

What is it you are actually trying to say?  :unsure:

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My concern is whether I can actually believe her that there's a wired access point. :P

haha with my rant I forgot to mention the point I was trying to make, but from the looks of it she's mixing up WiFi and Internet ... so unless you find someone that already went to that location or someone else than her to answer you won't really know until you go! lol

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I don't see a problem with this. WiFi (does anyone else think that's a ridiculous name?) does give wireless access to the internet, agreed that's not all it does, but surely anything's name does not contain EVERYTHING it can do.

What is it you are actually trying to say?  :unsure:

They translated WiFi to internet access, so my point was : since when having a wifi router automatically give you access to internet???

 

I agree wireless fidelity is an awful name, but at least it's not "wireless internet access" ... best example would be the warehouse wifi we have at work, it's not connected to internet, it's for the inventory wireless scanners, it's wifi but without internet access, which in French doesn't make sense since the name literally means "wireless INTERNET access"!

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I hate people who say their GPUs or CPUs or whatever can handle games up to 50GB. What? Size doesn't Matter, duh.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is that what she said?

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This entire thread

 

"lol CPU doesn't equal computer ya dingus"
"I opened up my nan's pc and it had a billion viruses top kek"

 

 

Anyways, I have to go and help my grandad at some point because he doesn't know how to upgrade to W10. I mean, the icon in the taskbar is pretty obvious.

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haha with my rant I forgot to mention the point I was trying to make, but from the looks of it she's mixing up WiFi and Internet ... so unless you find someone that already went to that location or someone else than her to answer you won't really know until you go! lol

That was my fear. :P

 

I don't see a problem with this. WiFi (does anyone else think that's a ridiculous name?) does give wireless access to the internet, agreed that's not all it does, but surely anything's name does not contain EVERYTHING it can do.

What is it you are actually trying to say?  :unsure:

Well in the case of ASFI, it's inaccurate because it's possible to connect to a wifi network which is incapable of connecting to the internet.

 

They translated WiFi to internet access, so my point was : since when having a wifi router automatically give you access to internet???

 

I agree wireless fidelity is an awful name, but at least it's not "wireless internet access" ... best example would be the warehouse wifi we have at work, it's not connected to internet, it's for the inventory wireless scanners, it's wifi but without internet access, which in French doesn't make sense since the name literally means "wireless INTERNET access"!

I don't think wifi stands for wireless fidelity.. Supposedly the official name is just wifi.

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I don't think wifi stands for wireless fidelity.. Supposedly the official name is just wifi.

lol you kidding???

 

http://www.wi-fi.org/news-events/newsroom/wireless-ethernet-compatibility-alliance-weca-awards-new-wi-fi-interoperability

 

 

 

Wi-Fi (which stands for "wireless fidelity")

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Huh.. Perhaps I wasn't recalling my research from a while back correctly.. I seem to recall wireless fidelity being part of their slogan.

nope, that's why the "official" way of writing it is "Wi-Fi" ;)

 

 

EDIT : they basically "copied" the Hi-Fi thing (Hi-Fi = High Fidelity)

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You don't get it. They don't have a second GPU dedicated to non-videogame things. The resolution isn't on the disks, its the maximum that the console can run. Like you can't run 2K on say a GTX960, no matter if you're playing a game or not.

Um...

What?

Don't mean to get flame-y but I'm pretty sure a 960* can output at 2k, the data on the disk is a set resolution quality and can be. The resolution is on the disks, on the screen, and the player has to handle it. I don't know the specifics of decoding though. Separate die component?

*I mean my Radeon 5870 does...

No need to be ashamed, it's just 1 dude, not all Indonesians are like that :3

No shame in trying to be logical with Intel's arbitrary naming scheme....maybe they need chips in that range...three cores, gaming ready...bring on i4!
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Well in the case of ASFI, it's inaccurate because it's possible to connect to a wifi network which is incapable of connecting to the internet.i.

 

So?  That is (sort of ) equivalent to saying it can't be called the "dinner table" because it is possible to eat your breakfast from it

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So? That is (sort of ) equivalent to saying it can't be called the "dinner table" because it is possible to eat your breakfast from it

That's too reductionist.

It's more like calling a Ethernet cable an internet cable.

I mean. You don't need to connect your dinner table to the internet to eat dinner....wait...you do have to connect it to dinner...

I mean, philosophically speaking, we have to consider the root of what Wi-Fi is, and jkdslllkfjjej

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You don't get it. They don't have a second GPU dedicated to non-videogame things. The resolution isn't on the disks, its the maximum that the console can run. Like you can't run 2K on say a GTX960, no matter if you're playing a game or not.

Video playback is a ton less demanding than rendering games at the same resolution.. I'm sure gpus do have a maximum capacity where they simply can't render output higher than a specific resolution, even if it's just video playback, but I can say for certain a 960 can easily handle 2k.

 

So?  That is (sort of ) equivalent to saying it can't be called the "dinner table" because it is possible to eat your breakfast from it

If an internal network is to the internet what breakfast is to dinner in your analogy then I guess that's true... However that's inaccurate since the internet is a collection of internal networks so using your analogy it'd be more like dinner consists of multiple breakfasts.

Going off-track, basically a dinner table is an inappropriate analogy.

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I was at the source today looking for cat 5 cables when this lady walked in. She had a Samsung s4, and said that she had broken the charging cable. The store clerk showed her the generic micro USB cables they sell. She stated that those cables would not work on her phone because they were not Samsung branded. He tried to explain to her that they would work, and proved it with his phone. She still didn't believe him, he eventually gave min, and ordered in the Samsung USB charger / cable.

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If an internal network is to the internet what breakfast is to dinner in your analogy then I guess that's true... However that's inaccurate since the internet is a collection of internal networks so using your analogy it'd be more like dinner consists of multiple breakfasts.

Going off-track, basically a dinner table is an inappropriate analogy.

After I read his reply I just assumed he was trollin ... EDIT ; no you but soup!

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