Here’s why iPhones are better

[Hunter259]

9 minutes ago, Alaradia said:

apple also tracks your location..... at least with android you can easily disable it

for finding your phone just type in google find my phone and the find my phone link will appear and that lets you do the same stuff as find my iphone no addon app needed 

Just turn off location services in settings?

[PeachyUwUSenpai]

2 minutes ago, Hunter259 said:

Just turn off location services in settings?

https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2015/07/24/worried-about-googles-your-timeline-heres-how-to-disable-tracking/ if you want to make sure its permantly disbaled this is the more hardcore method

[Hunter259]

Just now, Alaradia said:

https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2015/07/24/worried-about-googles-your-timeline-heres-how-to-disable-tracking/ if you want to make sure its permantly disbaled this is the more hardcore method

I was talking about the iPhone. To my knowledge it does disable the location daemon completely.

[QuixoticRogue]

1 minute ago, Alaradia said:

apple also tracks your location..... at least with android you can easily disable it

Sorry, but I mentioned you can't disable it, they say they will in November (possibly). Popular Mechanics has an article entitled:

"Google Tracks Your Android Phone's Location No Matter What You Do"

with the tagline:
"Turning off GPS will not protect you."

Eric Limer Nov 21, 2017
 

Also you are not taking into account the strong relationship between Google and the NSA, you can find many article, including many sources from traditional media as well as Wikileaks.  Linus did mention in his video that Apple does not have the same relationship with the government, speaking specifically to their refusal to help the FBI unlock iPhones. 

[QuixoticRogue]

6 minutes ago, Hunter259 said:

Just turn off location services in settings?

Please refer to the Guardian article: "Google has been tracking Android users even with location services turned off" 

Samuel Gibbs Wed 22 Nov 2017

[PeachyUwUSenpai]

1 minute ago, QuixoticRogue said:

Sorry, but I mentioned you can't disable it, they say they will in November (possibly). Popular Mechanics has an article entitled:

"Google Tracks Your Android Phone's Location No Matter What You Do"

with the tagline:
"Turning off GPS will not protect you."

Eric Limer Nov 21, 2017
 

Also you are not taking into account the strong relationship between Google and the NSA, you can find many article, including many sources from traditional media as well as Wikileaks.  Linus did mention in his video that Apple does not have the same relationship with the government, speaking specifically to their refusal to help the FBI unlock iPhones. 

lol apple does have the same relationship. they refused to unlock the phone but they handed all the icloud data over immediately 

 

also what i talked about was a hell of a lot more then disable gps its disabling gps and disabling their service and deleting the history 

[AntonChigurh]

2 hours ago, Chokondis said:

I use an iPhone 7 and my Snapchats and Instagram Lives look so much better than my Brother's Note 9, I can take a picture of a problem set and airdrop it right to my Macbook. I can screen record without it looking like a VHS home video.

Fair point, but that's not because the iPhone is superior specs wise to a Note 9. It's because companies like Snapchat are lazy and don't want to develop for different versions of Android and instead of making Snapchat or Instagram actually take a picture on your phone, they simply take a screenshot of what's on your camera at the moment, and so it looks like canned ass.

[DrMacintosh]

16 minutes ago, Alaradia said:

apple also tracks your location..... at least with android you can easily disable it

for finding your phone just type in google find my phone and the find my phone link will appear and that lets you do the same stuff as find my iphone no addon app needed 

Not true at all

 

[QuixoticRogue]

4 minutes ago, Alaradia said:

lol apple does have the same relationship. they refused to unlock the phone but they handed all the icloud data over immediately 

In China, that is 100% true.

However, please refer to the article written by David Bisson, Published March 25, 2016 on grahamcluley.com entitled:

"And now Apple is going to stop the FBI getting into iCloud data too"

[DrMacintosh]

6 minutes ago, Alaradia said:

but they handed all the icloud data over immediately

In China, the country that has no privacy laws and if Apple wants to do buisness in China they have to submit to them. So Apple gives Chinese customers an isolated iCloud service as a compromise. 

[Egg-Roll]

42 minutes ago, 79wjd said:

But again, all of that applies equally to every company in existence. There is nothing unique about Apple in that regard -- except that they have shown their reluctance/refusal to weaken security just because someone asked them too. Not to mention their efforts to constantly improve security to stupid levels. So, I would still very much so trust Apple more than Google/Microsoft/Samsung/et al. in terms of my data.

I wouldn't trust any of them including Apple... Just saying... I only trust Google with my map history because it could keep me out of jail one day via looking like a person at night time  Or have a double redundancy in a location completely different from the incident etc...

 

MS knows as little about me as possible, I wouldn't trust Sammy with my information beyond what is required either... Amazon requires information because it's Amazon...

 

So yea... asking me or anyone for that matter to trust one of those big companies because they are "secure" is never a good thing since they all technically invest large sums of cash into security, they also invest large sums of money in legal fees (sometimes more than in security) to ensure their asses are covered when shit hits the fan. They are all bad as each other, some situations better than others, Apple might have slightly better security than everyone else but the anti consumerism they have done with their products makes them worst in my eyes than any other company... Simply because it feels like I'm renting the product from them more than owning it.

 

Btw the only way data gets leaked out from companies like Amazon/Google/Apple w/o your involvement, is if a bug in the code is found and used against them w/o reporting it because doing so would possibly make more money. Or if they sell your data, which as much as Google would like to do it is easier to sell you ads threw their analytics... Amazon is well Amazon they have their own creepy shit... Apple makes too much money to care about selling your data, but are their stores safer? Mildly... Lets just say that, you can't waltz into the app store for iOS download every app and not expect your shit to get stolen, bad apples (not a pun) get threw all the time, some even going undiscovered for a while.

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/apple-removes-top-security-app-for-stealing-data-and-sending-it-to-china/

https://blog.malwarebytes.com/threat-analysis/2018/09/mac-app-store-apps-are-stealing-user-data/

 

Try stealing a HDD from any major company w/o getting tackled, tasered, caught in barbwire, having the cops/military come and/or possibly shot depending on the location. There's a reason why google announces their server locations , it's called come at us bro with all you got, you ain't winning w/o a battle.

 

So yea... claiming one is better than the rest is a bad idea. They are too big to really care about you, regardless what in store reps make it feel like or tell you...

[AntonChigurh]

32 minutes ago, 79wjd said:

Oh yes, Google is a saint of a company.

Google is by no means a saint, but shit, at the very least they aren't as openly anti-consumer as Apple. Things like a lack of SD card expansion, making phones of intentionally poor build quality so you can go to them and overpay for them to repair it, poor specs for the suggested price, and making devs who want to code for their systems purchase one of their overpriced laptops to do so is why people vilify Apple so much. Google is probably just as shit, but we don't hear about it because what shitty things they do they don't announce loud and proud and claim it to be innovation

[PeachyUwUSenpai]

7 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Not true at all

 

that video is about how to block ads and stop people from getting info from lock screen and cookies nothing that actually effects iphones location and barometer tracking

[QuixoticRogue]

1 minute ago, HingaDingaDurgen said:

...you can go to them and overpay for them to repair it,

I have to admit, the right to repair is a big problem I have with Apple.

[AntonChigurh]

5 minutes ago, QuixoticRogue said:

I have to admit, the right to repair is a big problem I have with Apple.

That's my main beef with Apple. They lack the do-it-yourself, let the consumer decide approach Android takes with most things.

[GDRRiley]

after so long of planing to get an android, 

iMessage, FaceTime, and apple's better security really making me look at a 6S to replace my 3.5 year old 5s.

[DrMacintosh]

13 minutes ago, Alaradia said:

that video is about how to block ads and stop people from getting info from lock screen and cookies nothing that actually effects iphones location and barometer tracking

Oops, that was the wrong video

 

This is the one I meant to post

Sorry, but you're world view is entirely false. 

[Kroon]

8 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

In China, the country that has no privacy laws and if Apple wants to do buisness in China they have to submit to them. So Apple gives Chinese customers an isolated iCloud service as a compromise. 

 

Same thing have happened i Europe several times.  Just for the prosecutor demand the data it and as long the crime they investigating is have a penalty of 2 years of imprisonment there is nothing apple can do.

 

But also Apples own privacy declaration clearly declare when they give out information to US govermen, and also not many times it have happened.  

 

https://www.apple.com/privacy/government-information-requests/

 

There you can read:

In the second half of 2016, Apple received between 5,750 and 5,999 National Security Orders. 

 

However it looks like the laws about the government access someones date are much more restricted in US.

[Wh0_Am_1]

I think Linus forgot about Google Hangouts...

[DrMacintosh]

3 minutes ago, Wh0_Am_1 said:

I think Linus forgot about Google Hangouts...

Pretty sure Hangouts is dead

[Wh0_Am_1]

2 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Pretty sure Hangouts is dead

Honestly, I personally only know one person who doesn't use hangouts. Believe me, it is alive and well. Even though Google has tried multiple time to phase it out.

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, Wh0_Am_1 said:

Honestly, I personally only know one person who doesn't use hangouts. Believe me it is alive an well.

LMG pretty much hates it now if I'm not mistaken

[Wh0_Am_1]

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

LMG pretty much hates it now if I'm not mistaken

That may be the case, but I still use it on a very regular basis. And if I recall correctly, Linus got very upset when the Oppo Find X did not alert him to a Hangouts message.

[Wh0_Am_1]

5:13 -Linus gets angry about the OPPO Find X putting his Hangouts app to sleep.

[QuixoticRogue]

15 minutes ago, Wh0_Am_1 said:

Honestly, I personally only know one person who doesn't use hangouts. Believe me, it is alive and well. Even though Google has tried multiple time to phase it out.

Yeah, its true Google Hangouts is alive and well, version 24.0.0 (September 27th 2018) is available in the Apple App Store right now.