Intel Core i9 9900K

[NumLock21]

Rumor has been going around that Intel's upcoming cpus for their mainstream Z390 chipset has been leaked. The top tier sku will be a Intel Core i9 9900K which houses 8 cores with hyperthread. Other 2 are the Core i7 9700K and Cor ei5 9600K. Both 6 cores, with the i5 lacking hyperthread.
 

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It does not make financial sense to not sell quad core chips since yield theory would make these one of the more lucrative options for Intel. The Intel Z390 PCH block diagram has been provided in the product brief which shows two very interesting things. The Intel Z390 chipset isn’t a huge leap over the Z370 chipset, something that we had already mentioned in the previous articles related to the Z390. Secondly, the chipset has brought the same feature set that was recently launched on the entry level boards but not given on the Z370 boards that launched last year.

These new features are already available on the mainstream motherboards (excluding the Z370 chipset) and include:

Intel Wireless-AC 802.11 AC and Bluetooth 5.0

Intel Wireless-AC Adapter

Up To 6 x USB 3.1 Gen 2 Ports

 

https://wccftech.com/intel-core-i9-coming-to-z390-mainstream-platform-core-i9-9900k-flagship/

[Techstorm970]

10 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

 

https://wccftech.com/intel-core-i9-coming-to-z390-mainstream-platform-core-i9-9900k-flagship/

@NumLock21, you're feeding us WTFTech???  WTF?!?!

[Princess Luna]

Oh no I lost my bets on the name being i7 8790K it's weird for it to be 9th gen when its still coffee lake... but then again this is Intel so who cares about sense.

[DildorTheDecent]

>i9 on the mainstream platform

 

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Froody129]

Meh, it's going to be priced as HEDT but with a "mainstream" badge on it. This isn't mainstream 8 core Intel chips and the other ones are just rebranded... 

[Christophe Corazza]

8? For an i9? Very peculiar. 

I had expected that with the competition from AMD, Intel would choose to let the i9s compete with the Threadrippers and not with the Ryzen 7 series. If they are smart, they put Intel's 8 core 16 threads in the i7 line-up to make sure that, if Zen 2 arrives and kicks their ass, they can be a little bit flexible with prizes.

[WereCat]

It's over 9000!

 

Two generations of Coffee Lake on a mainstream platform. Is there going to be a 3rd one for the X299 as well?

[JoeCoke]

Huh, I thought that they would be trying to slide these in where the 6 cores are and move the 6 cores down, but this naming scheme suggests that the 6 cores aren't moving anywhere, and that the 8 cores will be more expensive. If that's the case, then they're not really taking AMD as seriously as I thought they were. Zen 2 might REALLY make them hurt if that's how it all plays out.

 

Now of course this is WCCF and is probably not even true, so I'll just forget about this and move on until something more concrete pops up.

 

And a side note, I wonder what they'll call the 10th gen CPUs....

[AnonymousGuy]

If you want some extra sauce: they're aiming for these things to be 5.1Ghz out of the box turbo and possibly hit 5.3 on OC.

 

5.3Ghz x 8 cores would be a satifying upgrade to my 4.2 x6.

[yian88]

2 minutes ago, AnonymousGuy said:

If you want some extra sauce: they're aiming for these things to be 5.1Ghz out of the box turbo and possibly hit 5.3 on OC.

 

5.3Ghz x 8 cores would be a satifying upgrade to my 4.2 x6.

They will probably be extremely expensive and highly binned, i would wait for next year Zen 2 (Ryzen3) on 7nm, im sure they will improve core clocks and bring 8/10/12 core ryzen 3 models to mainstream at 4ghz+ alongside improved IPC, intel is not going to be worth it.

[Rainbow Dash]

So lemme guess, the i3 9100 is going to be 4 cores 8 threads.

[Stefan Payne]

13 minutes ago, Sampsy said:

I can understand the new chipset and an 8 core, but why would a 9700k / 9600k exist? Wouldn't they just be binned 8xxxk chips... which is what the 8086k is...

I don't

but you Intel fans seem to be loved to be milked for money with stupid nonsense incompatibilitys and new (rebranded) Chipsets...

[JuztBe]

Maybe Intel can't afford just to up core count without price hike. Monolithic dies are much more expensive compared to glued together dies after all.
So they'll simply put 8 core in a mainstream market with a price tag to match. 

And i9 will be compared to ryzen 8 core counterparts 1:1 with price tag just being barely mentioned. 

[Stefan Payne]

4 minutes ago, JuztBe said:

Maybe Intel can't afford just to up core count without price hike. Monolithic dies are much more expensive compared to glued together dies after all.

Dude, you have no idea what you are talking about...

 

And remember the good old i5-750?? That one that was sold for 150 bucks or so.

Ir the i7-920?? Was available for around 200€ at a time.

Both had a Die size of around 300mm².

 

We are talking about half of that for Coffee Lake.

The Core is rather tiny.

And even a GTX1060 has a DIE Size of around 200mm² - and is sold with Memory for 250€

 

To tell that they _NEED_ to increase the price is just bullshit. They don't!
They could easily sell their shit for half of what they are doing now.
 

 

4 minutes ago, JuztBe said:

So they'll simply put 8 core in a mainstream market with a price tag to match. 

And i9 will be compared to ryzen 8 core counterparts 1:1 with price tag just being barely mentioned. 

Yes and higher price, higher power consumption and again probably incompatible to the 300 series we have right now because Intel.

 

While we can thank AMD that we get more than 4 Cores with SMT in the Desktop Market after almost 10 Years!!!

 

And you also forget the Spectre and Meltdown things. 

And also there is one other big one coming, called TLBleed.

 

And you are still wanting the Intel Chips?! 

What else has to happen?

[Taf the Ghost]

They're going to have to solder these. There's no way these can operate at the same frequencies as the 8700k, given this isn't a new node.

[Stefan Payne]

3 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

They're going to have to solder these. There's no way these can operate at the same frequencies as the 8700k, given this isn't a new node.

Oh why should they?
The non soldered Skylake X are selling fine it seems.

As did any other Intel Chip since the Ivy Lake. Even Haswell that is know to run quite hot sold pretty well.

 

And nobody cared...

 

Why care about it now?
Why not just buy the Alternative?!

 

That is the *ONLY* way to change things!

To not buy stuff and tell the companys you don't like what they're doin!

[Taf the Ghost]

11 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

Oh why should they?
The non soldered Skylake X are selling fine it seems.

As did any other Intel Chip since the Ivy Lake. Even Haswell that is know to run quite hot sold pretty well.

 

And nobody cared...

 

Why care about it now?
Why not just buy the Alternative?!

 

That is the *ONLY* way to change things!

To not buy stuff and tell the companys you don't like what they're doin!

Clocks would go backwards on the same IPC & Node. Solder would give them maybe 200 Mhz better single-core turbo, and close up the issues for running all-core.

[Stefan Payne]

1 minute ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Clocks would go backwards on the same IPC & Node. Solder would give them maybe 200 Mhz better single-core turbo, and close up the issues for running all-core.

No

 

And with what you want, we are talking about 130W TDP. Won't be happening. And the Die won't be soldered because that's expensive. They'd loose money.

[Taf the Ghost]

2 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

No

 

And with what you want, we are talking about 130W TDP. Won't be happening. And the Die won't be soldered because that's expensive. They'd loose money.

They wouldn't lose money if they soldered the die. It's like 2USD more expensive, and it's the only way they can actually improve performance, this generation, over the 8th Gen parts.

[Stefan Payne]

6 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

They wouldn't lose money if they soldered the die. It's like 2USD more expensive, and it's the only way they can actually improve performance, this generation, over the 8th Gen parts.

Yes, 2 Dollar at 12 Million CPUs equals 24MIllion Loss.

 

ANd its not the Only way. There are others.

And you are willing to pay, so there isn't a problem for them (yet). Although there are all the Security Issues with their CPUs.

[Sauron]

It's just a needless rebrand, there's no point in having i7 as a middle of the road offer...

[Arika]

19 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

but you Intel fans

I love AMD fans for their hours of ranting anytime Intel come out with literally anything. Makes me happy to buy stuff that benefits me in the things I need it for and not because of some dumb brand loyality or moral high ground. Otherwise I would only have one choice to go with...I thought you AMD people loved competition and choice?

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Sampsy said:

I can understand the new chipset and an 8 core, but why would a 9700k / 9600k exist? Wouldn't they just be binned 8xxxk chips... which is what the 8086k is...

It’s just a name. I’m sure they just wanted to add some FX to the series.

[GoldenLag]

is this 14nm++++ and a new platform or will current 300 series mobos work just fine?

 

hopefully they are priced nice, or else its just kinda sad. 

 

now the question is if AMD is going to release an 2800x for funsies.

AMD always have to be in an intel thread

[Princess Luna]

24 minutes ago, Sauron said:

It's just a needless rebrand, there's no point in having i7 as a middle of the road offer...

Well didn't Intel already done this with the i5 7640X and i7 7740X? same chip just rebranded for a different chipset, these supposedly 9600k and 9700k if real and mind you this is a WCCFTech leak so yeah... do seem to be identical to the 8600K and 8700K with the sole difference of being to the new chipset.

 

In the past I would say this is fake since it makes no sense, but lately having I learned how inconsistent Intel is with its releases I don't really doubt it any more... I'm rather upset for a long time I hoped the 8 cores coffee lake could end up working on z370 as the last 8th gen CPU.

 

What this looks like is that Intel is releasing the "9th" gen which by all means is just Coffee Lake² solely to put the 8 cores variant out into the market...

 

Lets see what time will tell, meanwhile no news on the 10nm processors either.