Worth Getting 9800X3D?

[MistahHaskins]

I am currently using the 7800X3D Chip in my Asus Board - I also have it paired with the Peerless Assassin 120 Air Cooler. Previously held the Ryzen 5 5600x as a chip.

The temperatures on this thing are not the best I would say. I know it cannot be the mounting because on idle its around 45c-50c. I did go into BIOS and enabled AMD ECO Mode at 85w and have a CO of -15 All Cores. Set the thermal limit to 85c also in BIOS. I haven't messed with adding clock speeds or anything either with this chip.

All Tests were done in 2560x1440 V-Sync Enabled at 165hz.

On Battlefield V - it reaches about 80c after a match or so. Not the greatest but I think the chip wouldn't like that kind of heat. V-Sync On hitting 165FPS Steady.
On Battlefield 6 - it reaches about 73c after an match of Breakthrough. FPS Capped at 158 because of Borderless Mode. 
On Helldivers 2 - on the ship alone its hitting 72c before even doing anything. On the ground it was a bit cooler at 71c but while dropping it was hitting 83c while loading everything. That's just insane

 

What I am asking - from the videos and benchmarks I have been seeing. The 9800X3D runs cooler than the 7800X3D because the V-Cache is underneath the cores this time rather than being on top. I know the 9800X3D right now has issues with them dying (I hope I am wrong). I would get an AIO but it can only hold a 240mm instead of a 360mm. I spent some cash on the Peerless Assassin 120 for cooling. 

My RAM is also too tall for the front fan so it's not on the cooler all the way. But for me; like I said before I had a 5600x previously. That thing was SUPER easy to cool.
 

[Hinjima]

9 minutes ago, MistahHaskins said:

I am currently using the 7800X3D Chip in my Asus Board - I also have it paired with the Peerless Assassin 120 Air Cooler. Previously held the Ryzen 5 5600x as a chip.

The temperatures on this thing are not the best I would say. I know it cannot be the mounting because on idle its around 45c-50c. I did go into BIOS and enabled AMD ECO Mode at 85w and have a CO of -15 All Cores. Set the thermal limit to 85c also in BIOS. I haven't messed with adding clock speeds or anything either with this chip.

All Tests were done in 2560x1440 V-Sync Enabled at 165hz.

On Battlefield V - it reaches about 80c after a match or so. Not the greatest but I think the chip wouldn't like that kind of heat. V-Sync On hitting 165FPS Steady.
On Battlefield 6 - it reaches about 73c after an match of Breakthrough. FPS Capped at 158 because of Borderless Mode. 
On Helldivers 2 - on the ship alone its hitting 72c before even doing anything. On the ground it was a bit cooler at 71c but while dropping it was hitting 83c while loading everything. That's just insane

 

What I am asking - from the videos and benchmarks I have been seeing. The 9800X3D runs cooler than the 7800X3D because the V-Cache is underneath the cores this time rather than being on top. I know the 9800X3D right now has issues with them dying (I hope I am wrong). I would get an AIO but it can only hold a 240mm instead of a 360mm. I spent some cash on the Peerless Assassin 120 for cooling. 

My RAM is also too tall for the front fan so it's not on the cooler all the way. But for me; like I said before I had a 5600x previously. That thing was SUPER easy to cool.
 

A 9800X3D is barely an upgrade and absolutely not worth it. 
I don't really see your issue here?  Your temperatures are completely fine for gaming and there is nothing to worry about.

Your CPU should be boosting normally and not be thermal limited at these temperatures. 

 

What is it that makes you want to swap to a 9800X3D? a few degree lower temperatures? Why?

 

AM5 runs warm.

[MistahHaskins]

2 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

A 9800X3D is barely an upgrade and absolutely not worth it. 
I don't really see your issue here?  Your temperatures are completely fine for gaming and there is nothing to worry about.

Your CPU should be boosting normally and not be thermal limited at these temperatures. 

 

What is it that makes you want to swap to a 9800X3D? a few degree lower temperatures? Why?

 

AM5 runs warm.

83c is normal for AM5? Sorry I am quite new to AM5 per the post.

AM4 wasn't always trying to boost until it couldn't anymore. I just wanted to know that if it was at 85c for lets say years; would it affect it?

[Dedayog]

21 minutes ago, MistahHaskins said:

I am currently using the 7800X3D Chip in my Asus Board - I also have it paired with the Peerless Assassin 120 Air Cooler. Previously held the Ryzen 5 5600x as a chip.

The temperatures on this thing are not the best I would say. I know it cannot be the mounting because on idle its around 45c-50c. I did go into BIOS and enabled AMD ECO Mode at 85w and have a CO of -15 All Cores. Set the thermal limit to 85c also in BIOS. I haven't messed with adding clock speeds or anything either with this chip.

All Tests were done in 2560x1440 V-Sync Enabled at 165hz.

On Battlefield V - it reaches about 80c after a match or so. Not the greatest but I think the chip wouldn't like that kind of heat. V-Sync On hitting 165FPS Steady.
On Battlefield 6 - it reaches about 73c after an match of Breakthrough. FPS Capped at 158 because of Borderless Mode. 
On Helldivers 2 - on the ship alone its hitting 72c before even doing anything. On the ground it was a bit cooler at 71c but while dropping it was hitting 83c while loading everything. That's just insane

 

What I am asking - from the videos and benchmarks I have been seeing. The 9800X3D runs cooler than the 7800X3D because the V-Cache is underneath the cores this time rather than being on top. I know the 9800X3D right now has issues with them dying (I hope I am wrong). I would get an AIO but it can only hold a 240mm instead of a 360mm. I spent some cash on the Peerless Assassin 120 for cooling. 

My RAM is also too tall for the front fan so it's not on the cooler all the way. But for me; like I said before I had a 5600x previously. That thing was SUPER easy to cool.
 

There is a lot of misinformation and straight up guessing in your post.  You're incorrect even a few times.

 

Understand the CPU, how it works, its design, thermals, etc.  Then make a decision. (It's not worth it to upgrade, but you need to have proper cooling, not some half-assed measure).

 

This is mine at idle...  compare it to yours...  (full specs in sig, for case and cooling)

 

 

Here it is with Dune Awakening AND Enshrouded running together...

 

 

[Hinjima]

7 minutes ago, MistahHaskins said:

83c is normal for AM5? Sorry I am quite new to AM5 per the post.

AM4 wasn't always trying to boost until it couldn't anymore. I just wanted to know that if it was at 85c for lets say years; would it affect it?

I would say 83c is perfectly normal with a dual tower air cooler and it will not affect the lifespan of the CPU.

My 9800X3D is sitting at 84c right now in Forza Horizon 6.

 

AM5 is designed to boost until it can't anymore, more like a GPU.