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Stefan Payne

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  1. Shouldn't be a Problem for CPU and VRM. However the 4pin Connector it is. With 6A its 144W, with 9A its 216W maximum. That is really really close. And I'd assume that the CPU might be around the 200W Ballpark, maybe even 250W... The old Phenoms can deal with rather high voltages and 1,5V is something you see for example on a 1800X at Stock... The Russians from IXBT Labs IIRC did a Review of that a long long time ago, sadly the Site went down and I don't have a Backup either. It was an awesome Article, even 10 Year later. And I really really loved
  2. That's not the point. The Point is that one side will do something, the other side will react to it. And there are already some Articles about that on the way! Here an Article: https://www.techspot.com/news/80614-report-intel-cut-desktop-cpu-prices-10-15.html Here the Table for it. https://www.planet3dnow.de/cms/47831-intel-mit-preissenkungen-als-reaktion-auf-amds-ryzen-3000/ The 9600 isn't in the list but the 8600 is, wich is only getting ~15€ cheaper but the 8700 for example is almost getting 30€ cheaper according to th List. T
  3. Rainbow Six Sieg? Or what do you want to stream? Check the GPU Encoder of your GPU and see if that works. As for Gaming: the 3600 is the best choice due to architectural improvements, though 3700 might be even better, if you have the money. Cheaper B450? No, not really. You should look at the 100€ or more price region. not the cheapest of the cheap, the better ones...
  4. In that case I'd go for the cheaper one. Though the 2700 is faster, 100€ or so isn't really worth it (Assuming you're not talking in Down Under or Maple Dollars) The 3600 is, allegedly, faster or close to the 2700 in multi core applications and the MSRP is 199 USD... Anyway, for gaming, I'd wait for the 3000 series and get one of them over all last gen Ryzen.
  5. Both use the same Architecture. The 9600K is 6C/6T The 8700 is 6C/12T. At the same frequency, its impossible for the 9600 to beat the 8700, it needs higher frequency. And it might look OK now but "the future" will shine for the 8700 because it simply can use more resources. More like 2 years. The 7600K was released at the end of 2016/early 2017. Here: https://geizhals.de/intel-core-i5-7600k-bx80677i57600k-a1551201.html "Gelistet Seit" is listed since... That gives you a rough idea of how old a product is. Now we hav
  6. Yeah, I'd feel the same in your situation. You're between a Rock and a Hard place. What I'd recommend, regardless of your choice: Get a CPU with at least 12 Threads. DO NOT get a 6 or 8 Thread CPU. (if it isn't a stop gap CPU to survive for a month or two to upgrade) (meaning at least 6 Cores and SMT2, however that is called, enabled). And you have keep in mind that the upcoming stuff from "the dark side" looks pretty good, so you will have regret if you buy it right now. Question is: What do you really want. Do you want to gamble with a go
  7. Glad to see it working and putting a beautiful case to good use for the next 10 years or more. Have fun with the System!
  8. You can order stuff online, then the guy from FedEX or UPS delivers it and you don't have to drive for an hour. You might also want to check the price online vs. local store. Often Local is far more expensive. But it really is a bad situation as it might be possible to get similar performance to the 8700 for 25-50% less money... And also the possibility of PCIe 4.0 support (only on X570) Replacing the CPU isn't as bad as you think, if you have a decent, not too big Heatsink. Such as a Noctua NH-U12S. Just a screwdriver, remove two screws and use a lever.
  9. Then go AMD! But do NOT get a CPU without SMT! Here you have a Video about an older i5 vs. Ryzen 1600: The i5 has some Problems with some games due to lack of Threads. It will be the same with 6C/6T CPUs! Because it was the same with 1C/1T and 2C/2T CPUs. It was the Same with 2C -> 4C It is the same with 4C/4T vs.4C/8T CPUs. Why should it be different with 6C/6T vs. 6C/12T? I don't see any reason why that "rule of thumb" should change. Well, there is also the Timegap Build solution. You can get some
  10. There is also another Option: Get the cheapest CPU you are comfortable with for AM4 that the store has (and works with your Motherboard) and use that for a bit more than 2 Weeks and replace the CPU then. It might sound weird but from what we do know right now AM4 has a better upgrade path and might evensupport the 4000 series that is said to come next year. And you've seen the pace AMD has started with. Compare Ryzen 1k -> 2k -> 3k. There was always 5-10% more - at mimimum. Even from 1k -> 2k (ie 1700 -> 2700) So that leaves you with 3 Choices: a)
  11. 4 Cores are dead. LGA1151, even the v2 probably not very upgradable.... I don't get why a 60€ CPU cost the same as a 100€ CPU in India. Bad AMD Importers??? Naa, those are mobile only. Nothing for desktop. The last roadmap looked bleak. Or rather really bad. As in nothing under 14nm in the next year or two.
  12. No, beceuse your system is fine. Even by todays standards its a pretty fine system that should last you another year or two. You don't need to worry, just try it. If it doesn't work (wich there is no reason for it to), you can still think about upgrading. Another LGA2011 CPU isn't a good idea because they are still on the expensive side. The only thing you should do is grab another 2 Sticks of memory, if you happen to find some really cheap deals for that (30-40€ or so).
  13. That's why the GPU Clock is limited. And Power doesn't mean PSU it means the set Limit for the chip is reached and the GPU clocks down to not go over that. What PSU do you have? 500W sounds reasonable for the system. If you have issues with PSU you have random shutdowns, sometimes reboots under certain situations...
  14. Can you wait ~2 Weeks or so? Because you can get similar performance for lower cost... I don't think that is necessarily possible as max. Settings are very demanding. With mid-high settings it shouldn't be a problem with many systems to get that far... wait and look at the upcoming Ryzen 3700X or 3800X. That should be similarly priced, also 8 cores but SMT - and also have similar Performance I'm not too big of a fan of ASUS since my X370-F Strix. Granted its an AMD Board but it consumes 15-20W more than for example the Biostar X370GT7 or MSI B450I. That l
  15. What USB Devices do you use? Any (cheap/old) USB Enclosures? In some times they might hinder the Boot. Even if its new, its possible that something is not right. But I'd start with removing and inserting the Memory...
  16. Good old Question: If you build a PC; do you want to use it as long as possible (ie 5-10 Years) or do you want it now and don't care what happens in 3-5 years?
  17. No, that PSU is almost 15 Years old! Its around the 2005/6 time when it was made. And its made for that time. We have more than 10 years later, the way components want the power changed. That PSU is not made to be used with modern components. Its made for use with a Radeon X850 and Geforce 6800 and Athlon 64 as well as Pentium 4 CPUs. And also the Label is wrong. The PSU has no Rail -> no OCP. I have one myself (though in parts)... And its loud as hell too. Really not recommended. Pls replace the PSU!
  18. Listan was first with dirt cheap, 230VAC Only, entry level fixed cable PSU with LLC and D2D https://geizhals.de/?cat=gehps&asd=on&asuch=Performance X#gh_filterbox OK; just dirt cheap for an 80plus Goldish PSU, but still battles with Pure Power and your CX on the Price but with slightly higher efficiency - and lower fan RPM (my 750W goes down to 350rpm - WITHOUT bearing noise).
  19. It depends on the System and Wattage. For 400 and 500W, ACRF is fine. Wich means mid range Gaming PC for example Ryzen 5/7 with an RX5x0. Navi is unknown at this point. On the nV side I'd say 150W, maybe 200W tops. If you want higher end and OC, you might want to look at LLC-Resonant mode. Or rather: Pure Power 11/400W is just 50€. IF you need a VEGA, a Bitfenix Formula or Whisper M or be quiet Straight Power is recomended (650w Bitfenix, 750W be quiet due to Connection and so on)
  20. The PSU is pretty bad. The WLAN Adaptor looks expensive, though with Antenna it might be good. Otherwise its not too bad, you did your work. There is one thing you have to change: Get better Memory. If you are able to, get another stick later, but you should look at least at DDR4-2666, if possible 3000. The best Way to go at it, in my Oppionion, is to get something where you can replace the CPU for something better and there is no way around AMD right now. The 9100F might look OK right now, but you can't upgrade it, so you have to throw away the Motherboa
  21. Can you wait 2-3 Weeks? On the 7th there will be something interesting available... And there is a Scheduler update in the Works (not active yet), that increases the Performance and the "Intel is faster in Gaming" might not be true much longer. With the 1600, wich is rather cheap, you can upgrade to this new CPU, with the other one probably not... Also the 6 Cores without SMT (or 4 with the 9100) might be a Problem in the Future - same as it was with the E8x00 back in the Core 2 Era, who bought that instead of a Quad core. Or the Dual Cores a year before that.
  22. Depends on the Budget and price of the PSU. For 50€ and less -> maybe. For 100€ -> absolutel not. Also depends what you are doing with your PC and what Component its using...
  23. What's there to say? We know that the Basis will be Zen2 and Navi - for both consoles. But besides that?! Not much really... Sony is hyping the SSD of the PS5, someone mentioned 8 Cores somewhere. and the usual buzzword stuff such as 8K Output and so on. M$ is saying something about 4 times the Performance, 120fps... Phil Spencer summarized it here at the time pretty well: Its just not figured out (yet), its too early to say...
  24. Exactly. You need at least a good quality Gold unit to get a PSU that's better than what's already inside..
  25. Problem: That would be way too expensive to manufacture... But lets wait and see how Renoir really looks like. And if it has more than 4 Cores..
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