The fact is that Coffee Lake including 6-core can perfect work on 100/200 series motherboard

[Bananasplit_00]

10 minutes ago, Wikiforce said:

Only if intel was not greedy and allowed newer CPUs on previous generation chipsets like AMD does

While I do agree you can also look at AM3+ as an example why not. I doubt any Z series boards would have issues with the 8th gen chips though

[Sauron]

1 hour ago, huilun02 said:

Bias in the context of how an opinion is expressed, and facts presented in a manner to achieve the desired response from the audience. There is no incriminating evidence for such a thing. This is the media industry's bread and butter.

 

He can really only disclose an ad when the contract asks for a single (or fixed small #) of video. You notice that these videos are more controversial and not representative of Linus's personal opinion on the product. But when it calls for something long term thats where the big $$ comes in and a cunning choice of words makes its play.

Still waiting for a single example of Linus doing that. If all you're saying is that he personally likes Intel but doesn't misrepresent the facts then quite frankly I don't see the problem.

[Froody129]

Heyheyhey . I’m really hoping for this to work out. My Z170 won’t struggle with the extra cores and it feels like a waste to go to a 7700k now

[kuzko]

RNGeesus please make it explode and make Intel and partner allow this officially, changing socket for every Intel engineer's brain-farts has always been a pain in the rear!

[DocSwag]

1 hour ago, Minibois said:

But didn't the 8700 fail to POST? Possibly implying that's it's not just a software locked thing, but possibly because more cores use more power..

I would imagine that, if those issues occurred, it shouldn't affect it unless you run a stress test since it doesn't stress power delivery much to post.

[Jito463]

Call me skeptical, but I have a hard time accepting some random screenshots on the internet as proof.  What I would accept as proof - apart from an in-person demonstration - is a completely uncut video showing the installation of the CPU, mounting of the heatsink and then POSTing to the BIOS.

 

Having said that, the 8th gen i3 I could see as feasible, simply because it's effectively a rebranded i5 from the previous gen.  I doubt they changed much in the design.  It's the i5's and i7's that are more unlikely.  Not saying that it's impossible, just that I require more evidence to convince me.

[goodtofufriday]

2 hours ago, Minibois said:

But didn't the 8700 fail to POST? Possibly implying that's it's not just a software locked thing, but possibly because more cores use more power..

As i mentioned in another post, AMD with there am2 to am3+ cpus had some motherboards that supported 4 generations of processors by utilizing reserved pins and bios updates.

 

So while not Every board know to man may post a 8700, there are definitely some boards that could be bios modified to support it.

[Misanthrope]

1 hour ago, Wikiforce said:

Only if intel was not greedy and allowed newer CPUs on previous generation chipsets like AMD does

Forget the greed at this point it's more the slowness: How fucking long do they need to take before releasing the rest of the motherboards?

 

People are having to resort to this.

[JoostinOnline]

1 hour ago, Wikiforce said:

Only if intel was not greedy and allowed newer CPUs on previous generation chipsets like AMD does

Implying that AMD isn't just as greedy. Consumer friendly and greedy aren't mutually exclusive.

[WkdPaul]

*Thread moved to CPUs, Motherboards, and Memory section*

[pas008]

oh shit banking off those $47 chipsets

 

you know if hey really wanted to be greedy they solder the cpus to motherboards themselves and sell

[DildorTheDecent]

>no sauce

 

Yeah I'm not buying your BS OP. Nice try though.

[minibois]

5 hours ago, DocSwag said:

I would imagine that, if those issues occurred, it shouldn't affect it unless you run a stress test since it doesn't stress power delivery much to post.

Understandable, but still not something you want to advertise; a possibly unstable system.

4 hours ago, goodtofufriday said:

As i mentioned in another post, AMD with there am2 to am3+ cpus had some motherboards that supported 4 generations of processors by utilizing reserved pins and bios updates.

 

So while not Every board know to man may post a 8700, there are definitely some boards that could be bios modified to support it.

I thought the same way about Asus saying they had motherboards that supported it; likely only their higher end stuff and they didn't want validate all CPU's on all old boards.

[DocSwag]

4 minutes ago, Minibois said:

Understandable, but still not something you want to advertise; a possibly unstable system.

I was just pointing out that it didn't make sense that more cores would cause an inability to POST

[TheSLSAMG]

5 hours ago, Jito463 said:

Call me skeptical, but I have a hard time accepting some random screenshots on the internet as proof.  What I would accept as proof - apart from an in-person demonstration - is a completely uncut video showing the installation of the CPU, mounting of the heatsink and then POSTing to the BIOS.

 

Having said that, the 8th gen i3 I could see as feasible, simply because it's effectively a rebranded i5 from the previous gen.  I doubt they changed much in the design.  It's the i5's and i7's that are more unlikely.  Not saying that it's impossible, just that I require more evidence to convince me.

Personally, I wouldn't even trust that. If someone wanted to, they could swap the heat spreaders and modify the BIOS to read the CPU models as such.

[mr moose]

9 hours ago, huilun02 said:

 

 

I know what I said doesn't sound very nice. This back and forth is only going to derail the news discussion. 

Then why even say it?

[Ebony Falcon]

I have no doubt you can do this on the higher end boards but what you have to consider is that the 8700k would have to run at stock on a h170 bargain basement board for Intel to say that coffee lake works on thoes boards

 

proof I have none but there's a reason we don't have any cheep h mobo for coffee lake yet, only z370

[Xiaotao Yin]

This video is a video of their successful installation and booting using the MSIB150M PRO-VD PLUS motherboard. According to them, there are currently no bugs.

QQ视频_3C7488CD5701F9E307FB2B166E6A37EC.mp4

[Xiaotao Yin]

http://tieba.baidu.com/p/5510470404?share=9105&fr=share&see_lz=0&sfc=copy&client_type=2&client_version=9.2.8.0&st=1520639346&unique=D271D245464D1A8CB032DF9BB3844C1C

This is January of this year, Taobao merchants used ASRock b250 motherboard to successfully install 8700k posts, but need to modify the hardware, for the possible problems leading to so far no shelves in the store.

[asus killer]

11 hours ago, Ebony Falcon said:

I have no doubt you can do this on the higher end boards but what you have to consider is that the 8700k would have to run at stock on a h170 bargain basement board for Intel to say that coffee lake works on thoes boards

 

proof I have none but there's a reason we don't have any cheep h mobo for coffee lake yet, only z370

why on earth would anyone put an 8700k on a "bargain basement" H motherboard?

"i want the cheapest Chinese board sir and the most expensive CPU you got, and if it goes wrong i will came back and sue your ass and Intel's ass"

[Ebony Falcon]

5 minutes ago, asus killer said:

why on earth would anyone put an 8700k on a "bargain basement" H motherboard?

"i want the cheapest Chinese board sir and the most expensive CPU you got, and if it goes wrong i will came back and sue your ass and Intel's ass"

But you have to think of the worst case senarior for the people who don't no anything 

if intel support coffelake on 170 and 270 boards all of them have to be able to run the top chip

otherwise the whole line up will not support coffelake

 

can you imagen the chaos if they only supported it on some older gen motherboards 

 

and oem prebuilts will run thoes shit motherboards with the high end chips because technically they are meant to work  

[SpaceGhostC2C]

2 minutes ago, Ebony Falcon said:

if intel support coffelake on 170 and 270 boards all of them have to be able to run the top chip

No, in two ways: Intel doesn't need to support anything, but allow the motherboard manufacturers to decide what to support in their boards; there's no need to add support in all boards.

 

2 minutes ago, Ebony Falcon said:

otherwise the whole line up will not support coffelake

 

can you imagen the chaos if they only supported it on some older gen motherboards 

Yes: zero chaos. We are not even talking about something hypothetical, it has happened before in the history of AMD and Intel: the 771-775 "sticker mod", the limited support for the FX-9xxx series, all the "+" and "non  +" AM2/AM3 boards...

 

The truth is, there is nothing preventing them for having only certain CPUs and/or motherboards to be compatible with each other, it's just a decision like any other.

 

 

[asus killer]

11 minutes ago, Ebony Falcon said:

But you have to think of the worst case senarior for the people who don't no anything 

if intel support coffelake on 170 and 270 boards all of them have to be able to run the top chip

otherwise the whole line up will not support coffelake

 

can you imagen the chaos if they only supported it on some older gen motherboards 

 

and oem prebuilts will run thoes shit motherboards with the high end chips because technically they are meant to work  

this looks more like someone looking for a problem that fits the solution they want than finding a solution for a actual problem.

No one can actually place a 8700k on a old motherboard without a BIOS update, you could limit power draw on some motherboards, or block some cores or the speed, or not allow 8700k on H motherboards and only on B or just Z.

This is not like AMD that really isn't doing custom shenanigans, Intel invented K processors so that you can overclock some processors and not others just to milk the customers. Was there a chaos for some processors being locked?

[Alisa Thea]

On 3/9/2018 at 5:56 AM, Xiaotao Yin said:

In China, people successfully modified the motherboard BIOS file to enable the use of 100/200 series motherboards.Before this, people have successfully installed the i3 8100 with the h110 and sold it on Taobao, but someone recently used the b150 to successfully install the i5 8400/8500.

So, what? As you can see. Even so much evidences have been shown, people still don't believe it.

[SimplyChunk]

Personally, I don't doubt you.  However as with most things it's too much effort to be a viable 'thing'  Which, like mentioned in Fridays WAN show, is what Intel said about running Coffee Lake on 170/270 boards would be.