Car Enthusiast Club [Now Motorcycle friendly!] - First thread to 150k! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[iDeFecZx]

12 minutes ago, cluelessgenius said:

well making fun of something in public even if true is ridicule. try calling a pregnant woman fat in public and talking your way out of it stating 'its factual '

So someone comes in here asking for an opinion on something we arent allowed to slate it for being shit, even if it is?

[iDeFecZx]

7 minutes ago, PandaCopyRight said:

 

@terrytek where you at?  

Please dont summon IT

[bcredeur97]

2 minutes ago, iDeFecZx said:

Please dont summon IT

IT is here. whatcha need?

[iDeFecZx]

3 minutes ago, bcredeur97 said:

IT is here. whatcha need?

Ur not it

[bcredeur97]

2 minutes ago, iDeFecZx said:

Ur not it

but I work in IT

 

Spoiler

 

[Real_PhillBert]

8 minutes ago, bcredeur97 said:

IT is here. whatcha need?

I need an IT guy who know the difference between is head and his asshole... 

[terrytek]

23 minutes ago, PandaCopyRight said:

some people are quite blunt with their opinions  

and now that you say it ... would be interesting to see someone do it  

@terrytek where you at?  

boi

[cluelessgenius]

17 minutes ago, bcredeur97 said:

says the guy from Germany

 

(I really don't know if it's true but people say Germans can be very blunt that it comes off as rude to some other people)

stereotyping from the american *sigh* how predictable

 

no but seriously i wouldnt know

1. im born in russia

2. grew up in germany sure but in a russian family with according values

3. again i live here so i wouldnt know if other people around the world are more subtile than germans

 

what i do know is that most people (no matter where theyre from) dont have any manners anymore.

 

p.s.: i get the whole hazzing part where its a guy thing to ridule each other, i have enough of that at work. but on the internet its ver hard to determine how something is meant by the author. 

[cluelessgenius]

18 minutes ago, iDeFecZx said:

So someone comes in here asking for an opinion on something we arent allowed to slate it for being shit, even if it is?

i asked for hands on experience. there was nothing of that. 

@Real_PhillBert also had nothing good to say but thats totally fine since he gave me insight into his experience.

calling it a boat anker while maybe funny doesnt give me any useful information

[Mr.Dingle]

31 minutes ago, cluelessgenius said:

well making fun of something in public even if true is ridicule. try calling a pregnant woman fat in public and talking your way out of it stating 'its factual '

Well , except this not being a pregnant woman , rather a car .

 

Which , being a Fiat is really hit and miss . I know of 6 that were in my local area , now there is none . Just before the last one got sold , i asked the owner for his opinions . Only thing he said is that he invested half the cars MSRP into fixing and servicing it , because new issues kept coming .

 

Agreed , "boat anchor" might be a bit blunt , but , i wouldnt worry too much about it . 

[iDeFecZx]

3 minutes ago, cluelessgenius said:

i asked for hands on experience. there was nothing of that. 

@Real_PhillBert also had nothing good to say but thats totally fine since he gave me insight into his experience.

calling it a boat anker while maybe funny doesnt give me any useful information

Alright heres my experience

Interiors are cheap plastic and age badly and rattle

Engines are the usual italian hit and miss situation. Some have been fine, some have had turbo issues, internals melting etc.

Brake servos are a known failure point and do result in total brake failure.

Gearboxes are chocolate.

Pretty poor on fuel for a small car.

 

They look alright and sound decent but thats about it

[cluelessgenius]

1 minute ago, Mr.Dingle said:

Well , except this not being a pregnant woman , rather a car .

 

Which , being a Fiat is really hit and miss . I know of 6 that were in my local area , now there is none . Just before the last one got sold , i asked the owner for his opinions . Only thing he said is that he invested half the cars MSRP into fixing and servicing it , because new issues kept coming .

 

Agreed , "boat anchor" might be a bit blunt , but , i wouldnt worry too much about it . 

its not a car its my potential choice of car to own thats being made fun of but im starting to sound like a bitch i  really dont care about the hazzing its the emptiness in usefull information in that answer that gets me.

 

interesting on the fiat thing though, might i ask where you from?

[cluelessgenius]

2 minutes ago, iDeFecZx said:

Alright heres my experience

Interiors are cheap plastic and age badly and rattle

Engines are the usual italian hit and miss situation. Some have been fine, some have had turbo issues, internals melting etc.

Brake servos are a known failure point and do result in total brake failure.

Gearboxes are chocolate.

Pretty poor on fuel for a small car.

 

They look alright and sound decent but thats about it

hmmm im curious what are you comparing it to though?

[Mr.Dingle]

1 minute ago, cluelessgenius said:

its not a car its my potential choice of car to own thats being made fun of but im starting to sound like a bitch i  really dont care about the hazzing its the emptiness in usefull information in that answer that gets me.

 

interesting on the fiat thing though, might i ask where you from?

Croatia.

 

Looks and opinions are subjective , but if i was you , id look at something else . Or if you are into retro stuff , then might aswell get the OG 500. 

[iDeFecZx]

1 minute ago, cluelessgenius said:

hmmm im curious what are you comparing it to though?

In what regards

A quick google also shows the suffer the same problems as regular 500s

Door handles break and fall off, rear shocks are lucky to last 30k miles, electrical faults are common and anything meant to have oil go through it will always start leaking

[vetali]

5 hours ago, cluelessgenius said:

really? i thought this was an enthusiast club where we can appreciate all types of cars and tastes. do we really need to step down to ridicule?

Exceptions are made for Fiat. 

[iDeFecZx]

Just now, vetali said:

Exceptions are made for Fiat. 

Fix it again tomorrow

[cluelessgenius]

1 minute ago, Mr.Dingle said:

Croatia.

 

Looks and opinions are subjective , but if i was you , id look at something else . Or if you are into retro stuff , then might aswell get the OG 500. 

well the thing i theres not much in that class. what would you suggest for small car around the 150 - 200 hp mark. theres really not much. 

[cluelessgenius]

4 minutes ago, iDeFecZx said:

A quick google

"hands-on"

[iDeFecZx]

4 minutes ago, cluelessgenius said:

well the thing i theres not much in that class. what would you suggest for small car around the 150 - 200 hp mark. theres really not much. 

Fiesta ST

Pug 208 GTi

Clio 172/182/197/200

Civic Type R

Polo GTi

Ibiza Cupra

Fabia VRs

Cooper S

[iDeFecZx]

1 minute ago, cluelessgenius said:

"hands-on"

i have i just googled issues id not personally come across or couldnt think of

[Mr.Dingle]

3 minutes ago, cluelessgenius said:

well the thing i theres not much in that class. what would you suggest for small car around the 150 - 200 hp mark. theres really not much. 

In that car class , no , i dont think there is a viable 150HP+ option . 

[sirtoby]

5 minutes ago, iDeFecZx said:

Fiesta ST

Pug 208 GTi

Clio 172/182/197/200

Civic Type R

Polo GTi

Ibiza Cupra

Fabia VRs

Cooper S

Corsa GSI

MINI Cooper S

Smart ForFour Brabus

Alfa MiTo 155

Peugeot 207 155/175

[iDeFecZx]

1 minute ago, sirtoby said:

Corsa GSI VXR/OPC

MINI Cooper S Listed

Smart ForFour Brabus Too old

Alfa MiTo 155 Not particularly fun to drive and has the same engine as the abarth

Peugeot 207 155/175 Replaced by the 208, previous gen french shit

 

[iDeFecZx]

11 minutes ago, Mr.Dingle said:

In that car class , no , i dont think there is a viable 150HP+ option . 

Theres a few, most of them are also far better