Ryzen+ 2600x and 2300x cinebench/Cpu-Z results leak (probably fake)

[cj09beira]

This time around we have two videos of ryzen+ cpus running cinebench and Cpu-z.

the videos were submitted with a month between them, the first in October and the latest one in November 

 

the 2300x, is shown to be a 4c/4t part at 4ghz

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results:

Cinebench: single core is 236cb and all cores is 855cb.

this puts it well above the record for a 1300x overclocked on hwbot.org which is at 4.5ghz with a score of 709cb

Spoiler

Cpu-z: single core is 680 and all cores is 2585

 

 

the 2600x is shown to be a 6c/12t part with 4.2ghz clocks

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results:

single core is 250cb and all cores is 1821cb.

the current 1600x cinebench record on hwbot.org is 1837 @ 5.445Ghz

Spoiler

Cpu-z: single core 677 and all cores is 5180

which puts this cpu well ahead of a 8700k @ 5ghz 

 

verdict:

First the scores seem to be too high that alone would make people suspicious, but the cinebench program seems to detect the cpus far too well, as the 1600x record on hwbot has cinebench thinking its a 12c cpu with 12 threads, and shows the full name of the engineering sample instead of "Ryzen 1600x...."

these results really seem FAKE NEWS

 

personal opinion:

reaching a 5.4Ghz 1600x under ln2, with a 6 core ryzen+ chip seems excessive, even if the ryzen+ chip is overclocked

the benches are fake (probably) but i think its important to analyze them so that people stop using them too get hyped over ryzen+  

 

 

[Crunchy Dragon]

I'm not stoked about Ryzen+ at all honestly

[Duskie]

Aren't these from a few months ago? I remember seeing them on /r/AMD, debunked I think.

[jagdtigger]

47 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

I'm not stoked about Ryzen+ at all honestly

Then you can continue to pay a hefty premium for intel...

[Taf the Ghost]

@cj09beira

 

As I said in the other thread, I think the tests are "real" but the means to get them is probably some sort of trick.  And the parts have to be around 5 Ghz to get that type of score. That much is fairly clear.

[iRileyx]

Just now, Crunchy Dragon said:

I'm not stoked about Ryzen+ at all honestly

Why not? that's some intel level performance(multithread and pretty darn close single thread) at a considerable amount cheaper(if the prices on the thread from the other day are to be believed) lol.

[Matu20]

How easy would this be to fake?

[cj09beira]

8 minutes ago, RKRiley said:

Why not? that's some intel level performance(multithread and pretty darn close single thread) at a considerable amount cheaper(if the prices on the thread from the other day are to be believed) lol.

it seems the slide from the other day was made by people on reddit  

 

[cj09beira]

2 minutes ago, Matu20 said:

How easy would this be to fake?

my guess would be that you would need some fast cpus and then play around with the windows timer

[Coaxialgamer]

I dunno man . those single core results are raising flags for me , but the frequencies being hit seem totally reasonable given what we know about GF's 12nm node.

If the February 2018 launch is accurate , i'm inclined to believe these results , simply because of how close we are to launch .

[Agosto]

Clearly coffee lake CPUs with very good cooling.

[Nicnac]

1 hour ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

I'm not stoked about Ryzen+ at all honestly

Why not? Nothing better than new cpu releases no matter which side you're on!

[Crunchy Dragon]

2 hours ago, Nicnac said:

Why not? Nothing better than new cpu releases no matter which side you're on!

The only thing I'm really interested in knowing about Ryzen is how it stacks up to Intel tbh. Just the way I am, I guess.

[Guest]

If this was Zen2 I would probably believe it, but the Zen+ claim seems unlikely IMO. But I would love to be proved wrong as competition is great.

[Ithanul]

2 hours ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

The only thing I'm really interested in knowing about Ryzen is how it stacks up to Intel tbh. Just the way I am, I guess.

Don't blame you.  I rather see official confirmed results.

 

Myself, I am waiting out for Zen 2 TR chips.  This 1900X in my second rig has me happy for a bit.

[Taf the Ghost]

2 hours ago, Ithanul said:

Don't blame you.  I rather see official confirmed results.

 

Myself, I am waiting out for Zen 2 TR chips.  This 1900X in my second rig has me happy for a bit.

Rumor mill for TR2 is pretty dead right now. It makes sense to run out some higher clocked SKUs, but Threadripper was such a quiet development and surprise that AMD can wait for yields to see if it makes sense.

[PineyCreek]

https://hothardware.com/news/amd-zen-2-leak-12-core-ryzen-7-2800x-51ghz-boost

 

Hoax.

[Doobeedoo]

Yeah umm too much increases overall. We know clock speeds will be better, so such can only do so much. Will have to wait and see on release. 

[JediFragger]

If it sounds too good to be true, it usually is.

[cj09beira]

8 hours ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Rumor mill for TR2 is pretty dead right now. It makes sense to run out some higher clocked SKUs, but Threadripper was such a quiet development and surprise that AMD can wait for yields to see if it makes sense.

if they do make it, and it gets around 10% clock increase, it would be enough to make the single thread advantage of intel to become almost negligible 

[TheCherryKing]

Damn! How is it even possible for a Six-Core Ryzen 5 to perform as well as a 16-Core Xeon?

[grimreeper132]

Just now, TheCherryKing said:

Damn! How is it even possible for a Six-Core Ryzen 5 to perform as well as a 16-Core Xeon?

it can in some workloads work better, as a 16 core will be much better at multi core preformace but in single threaded the R5 will be better, that being said I believe these results have been confirmed to be bullshit

[linustouchtips]

my fake detector is off the charts. i agree there is too much hype for ryzen 2 to me its just a refresh refinement whatever they call it these days.

[TheCherryKing]

2 minutes ago, linustouchtips said:

my fake detector is off the charts. i agree there is too much hype for ryzen 2 to me its just a refresh refinement whatever they call it these days.

There's too much hype about Ryzen in general! Ryzen is just existing technology that Intel has for a few years at a lower price point. 

[Kukielka]

39 minutes ago, TheCherryKing said:

There's too much hype about Ryzen in general! Ryzen is just existing technology that Intel has for a few years at a lower price point. 

Not really tbh. Intel has always approached a monolithic design in the consumer market. AMD does with their new tech the complete opposite.