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AMD Zen Blender Benchmarks Surface-on par with a 10 core Xeon?

Djole123
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So as you know, AMD Zen promises good performance for a low price. New Blender benchmarks surfaced for Zen, so let's have a look:

 

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So the time is 69 seconds (gotta love that number), which is on par with the 10 core Ivy Bridge Xeon.

 

And what's even more impressive is the fact that it's an engineering sample with reduced clocks and all that shit so we might even expect 8 core Haswell performance.

 

I think this is great news for AMD, and I think that it'll sell very nicely.

 

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http://wccftech.com/new-amd-zen-blender-benchmarks/

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If this is legit, and not just another "what's the best thing that AMD can render so we can market better", I'll probably buy it instead of an i7-6700k.

 

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WCCF and the graph looks like someone made it in 15 seconds in google. Also windows server 2008. I hope it is true though. Also doesn't say which AMD CPU. Could be the top tier one and the rest are garbage. BUT! There is always hope

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1 minute ago, AMD Radeon said:

Zen will be as amazing as the discovery of penicilin

 

Be hyped.

NO PLZ DONT HYPE YOU'RE LITERALLY SMOTHERING AMD IN LOVE and eventual disappointment because hyping rarely is good

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That is if this is an 8 core zen chip.  Not so impressive if it turns out the sample has more  cores... 

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They didn't mention the core count so this means literally nothing, if it has less cores than 10 yay if not boo but all they said is how many cores the chips they are comparing to have wtf wccftech

 

Or did they say it has 10 (this article is so unclear I can't tell)

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This is a chip that has 10 cores! It is marginally faster than the Xeon E5 2650 v2 – which is an 8 core processor

???^^ I don't know which chip they are talking about given the location of this sentence in the article

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5 minutes ago, AMD Radeon said:

Zen will be as amazing as the discovery of penicilin

 

Be hyped.

Coming from the guy name AMD Radeon. But hey who knows

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If it's legit, is a consumer chip and not a server one, that would actually be great for a change.

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2 minutes ago, TetraSky said:

If it's legit, is a consumer chip and not a server one, that would actually be great for a change.

They thought it was a Naples processor (so server) but the article is such a dumpster fire I think we should just wait for the non wccftech version since someone else is bound to report on this if it has any chance of validity before drawing more in depth conclusions.

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Eh, it's only beating Ivy Bridge. That's pretty old by now, especially in a server market. LGA 1155 servers are getting really cheap for the home user now.

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The problem is that article claims zero knowledge on the characteristics of the CPU. Hence, the same results could be extremely impressive or extremely disappointing, depending on whether it's, you know, a dual core laptop chip running at 1.8GHz or a server-workstation 16-core monster overclocked to 5.0GHz...

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17 minutes ago, Djole123 said:

So as you know, AMD Zen promises good performance for a low price.

That is not true. AMD has stated clearly that they don't want to be considered the "cheaper" option anymore. Zen is going to be priced accordingly to its performance.

 

17 minutes ago, Djole123 said:

Source:

http://wccftech.com/new-amd-zen-blender-benchmarks/

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Even if, assuming it's true, that is the highest end CPU they will produce, it still changes the fact that AMD have always been better for the same price, but Intel have always had faster chips than AMD at the top-end.

 

Quite frankly, both Intel and AMD are going to have to start spewing out some pretty spectacular products otherwise people won't bother buying anything new. Back in the P2/P3 days, a 50% performance increase gave real world benefits. I think that we have come to a point where general consumer computer parts have become so powerful, the marginal performance increases that happen every year just don't give a reason to upgrade. Hell, a 50% improvement on what I have now wouldn't have any real benefits for me apart from the "my computer has bigger bollocks than yours" factor. Is having a web page render half a second faster of any real use to anyone? Obviously this forum probably isn't the best place to say that there's no reason to upgrade, but for general consumers who just buy a box to play Farmville on, I think the need for a faster machine every few years has gone.

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But how many cores does that engineering sample have? is it 8, 16 or 32?

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Yeah yall are hype, but im here praying. I signed contract where for the rest of my life my personal rigs can be amd only. I need a new proc man. 

 

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Even as it may be 8core still, not enough info and ES and all that. Well time is nearing, we'll know soon enough.

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3 hours ago, Djole123 said:

So the time is 69 seconds (gotta love that number), which is on par with the 10 core Ivy Bridge Xeon.

 

And what's even more impressive is the fact that it's an engineering sample with reduced clocks and all that shit so we might even expect 8 core Haswell performance.

Uh, if it's on par with a 10-core Ivy Bridge chip, it's definitely also on par with an 8-core Haswell chip. The jump from Ivy Bridge to Haswell was not big at all, and that is 2 cores less.

3 hours ago, M.Yurizaki said:

This is fine and dandy for those who use multithreaded software and programs, but what about for the average joe who uses a web browser?

 

Or in particular to people who play games on the PC?

Well, this looks at multithreaded performance, but multithreaded performance is just singlethreaded performance times the number of cores (plus some from SMT/hyperthreading). So if AMD's 8-core competes with Intel's 8-cores, that means the singlethreaded performance also must be fairly close to what Intel offers.

3 hours ago, AresKrieger said:

They didn't mention the core count so this means literally nothing, if it has less cores than 10 yay if not boo but all they said is how many cores the chips they are comparing to have wtf wccftech

 

Or did they say it has 10 (this article is so unclear I can't tell)

???^^ I don't know which chip they are talking about given the location of this sentence in the article

The 10-core is the Xeon E5-2680 v2.

The 8-core is the Xeon E5-2650 v2.

 

The (reportedly 8-core) AMD chip slots in between those two.

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1 minute ago, Sakkura said:

Well, this looks at multithreaded performance, but multithreaded performance is just singlethreaded performance times the number of cores (plus some from SMT/hyperthreading). So if AMD's 8-core competes with Intel's 8-cores, that means the singlethreaded performance also must be fairly close to what Intel offers.

As much as I want to believe that, I'm not until I see something like a Cinebench single threaded score.

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Just now, M.Yurizaki said:

As much as I want to believe that, I'm not until I see something like a Cinebench single threaded score.

For sure. There are some big ifs involved. And this article is very WCCF.

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honestly as hype as I am for zen I think zen+ might be the real answer. IIRC amd was saying zen+ should be like 20-30% over zen, which is more than intel has been achieving, which means zen+ might actually 100% match or beat intel

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30 minutes ago, Swatson said:

honestly as hype as I am for zen I think zen+ might be the real answer. IIRC amd was saying zen+ should be like 20-30% over zen, which is more than intel has been achieving, which means zen+ might actually 100% match or beat intel

AMD never said that.

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1 minute ago, patrickjp93 said:

AMD never said that.

Pretty sure they did but no I'm not going to dig through literally every interview or comment amd reps have given in the past 6 months just to prove it

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Pretty sure they did but no I'm not going to dig through literally every interview or comment amd reps have given in the past 6 months just to prove it

It was 10% max.

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