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bad cable management. Cant stand it when i see it.

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personally?

my biggest pet peave is when people use a single 200mm where they could have used two 120mm. 

YOU COULD HAVE 1.75 TIMES THE AIR FLOW BUT YOU DEFY LOGIC Y U NO MOAR FANZ

 

The answer is noise. A single 200mm fan can potentially be quieter than two 120mm fans, even with all fans at a low RPM (if only by the sheer fact that there are two of them). You need to look at volume of airflow vs noise, rather than a raw amount of air for the big fans to make sense. However, this is offset by companies like Noctua making phenomenally good 120mm fans and very few particularly decent 200mm fans existing.

 

But this is the logic behind me going for two 140mm fans instead of three 120mm.

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1. Pastel colored water coolant. It just looks ugly, and why not use opaque tubing and plain water instead?

2. "minimalist" designs.

3. Fractal Cases (they just look boring)

4. Use of the color blue (least favorite color)

Non-aesthetic pet peevves

1. People who build rigs without SSD's (it just makes me sad)

2. People who say "8gb of ram is enough"

3. Ultra small form factor builds. I can understand semi-small ones that are easy to carry around, but some just get ridiculous

4. air cooling

5. People willing to buy cheap, lower end hardware, rather than waiting, saving up, and buying more appropriate hardware for what they want to do. (mainly because I made this mistake on my very first rig, and now realize how much money I wasted)

6. rigs with unfilled fan spots.

Have to disagree with you on two things lol.

1. I like to see the colored liquid in my reservoir and my tubing.

3. I have said clear tubing and pastel orange liquid in a fractal Design r5

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Have to disagree with you on two things lol.

1. I like to see the colored liquid in my reservoir and my tubing.

3. I have said clear tubing and pastel orange liquid in a fractal Design r5

They have translucent colored fluid. The pastel just looks stupid to me, because it looks exactly the same as opaque colored tubing. As for fractal...I just don't see the point. It just looks like you didn't even try to make the case look like anything more than a box.

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Always have a static bracelet but never use it. Just show it to people. 

Any self respecting computer builder must have a workbench. Always have a bunch of Thinkpads lying around so you feel important. I included a picture of my workbench with the wrist strap static bracelet (blue) as well as an infrared thermometer. All of this is in my garage. I have a Toys R Us paint theme. My specialty is desktop computers but my hobby is laptops. 

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Could I run my 4790 at a higher base clock? How do you do that exactly? Message me.

Omg how??

 

The way I did it is through the Asus UEFI. I just let it to an "automatic" OC where it reboots and tries changing the clocks until it's stable. With the unlocked CPUs, the only thing that can be adjusted is the baseclock. So it bumped it up to 103 (3% increase) which means it can now turbo to 3.7 instead of 3.6. :D

 

It can be done manually and there are some tutorials on youtube if you want to try. With my system, it wouldn't let me change anything manually, so my only option was to do the automatic OC method. I think Linus has a video where he OC's a Xeon using the baseclock method. 

 

It also adjusts the system ram clocks since they're tied to the baseclock. So now my ram runs at 1648 instead of 1600. Just something to note.

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People who buy AMD CPU's.

You mean people who buy AMD CPU's for the wrong reasons. Please don't fanboy-AMD CPU's do have their place-just not in as many areas as Intel's.

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Not at all a fanboy. You seriously couldn't infer that I'm talking about gaming?

Not everyone uses their rig for games......

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90% of builds on this forum are for gaming.

There are still those who come through asking for a build that's not orientated at gaming, and which has CPU's such as the FX 8350 fulfilling their original and true purpose-as budget workstation/server CPU's.

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There are still those who come through asking for a build that's not orientated at gaming, and which has CPU's such as the FX 8350 fulfilling their original and true purpose-as budget workstation/server CPU's.

 

Also, their APUs are great for general-purpose machines and some light gaming. 

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Also, their APUs are great for general-purpose machines and some light gaming. 

Yep, though they can get a bit hot in ultrabooks that don't have much in the way of strong active cooling. (CMT is still inefficient no matter how it is packaged).

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Everyone needs Deltas. 

arent deltas really loud

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People who buy AMD CPU's.

its fine if they are looking for a cheap multi threaded workload computer

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arent deltas really loud

Only if you make them loud.

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Only if you make them loud.

arent they built to be small and spin at high rpm?

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arent they built to be small and spin at high rpm?

120mm and 140mm models over 4K RPM can output 180CFM+.

I use my 4200RPM, 190CFM, 120mm as a roof mounted exhaust fan since the 980 kicks out serious heat.

I could put a 5000RPM,250CFM,120mm up top. But it needs slightly more power to run at full speed.

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120mm and 140mm models over 4K RPM can output 180CFM+.

I use my 4200RPM, 190CFM, 120mm as a roof mounted exhaust fan since the 980 kicks out serious heat.

I could put a 5000RPM,250CFM,120mm up top. But it needs slightly more power to run at full speed.

oh i only saw 60mm delta fans 

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You're not the only one with that kind of setup. I'm running a 2500 non-K on Z77 with a DR3P here. I don't give a quack what people think about that.
When I bought the CPU in 2011 I had no intention of overclocking or even keeping it more than a year or two.
The motherboard was a "form over function" choice and a lucky choice at that. I soon found out that it completely ignores Intel's multiplier lock on the non-K CPUs, allowing it to auto-overclock the CPU after all (around 2 years now on 3.8 @ 1.344V, never had a single hiccup).
That's also where the DR3P comes in, it allows me to keep the temps under 55°C during gaming.

 

 

 

 
 

 

 

Nice. Does it still serve you well or do you have update plans? I'm quite comfortable, even though current games push it to a solid 90% - but I think it does not bottleneck the 970. Postponed  any update plans until 2016, when Skylake has established itself - maybe even further if it's still going strong. What's that board of yours? My Asus does also offer some kind of "overclock any CPU" magic, but I never bothered trying.

 

 

 

I do only use a 120Gig one for OS and other stuff and it is full to the brim - though there is not a single game, photo or personal file on it. My library is on a WD Green (5400 RPM), so it should be respectively slow, but loading times never really bothered me. And with games currently beeing like what, 50/ 60 GB? That's an additional 25 - 30 bucks just for the space^^

 

 

 

I'm the guy who got a locked cpu and put it in a z series board . . . I wanted to stay away from overclocking because i thought my pc would catch alight if i tried it and i couldnt find the h series equivalent of the board . . . regretting it a bit now but lol oh well. 

 

 

Could I run my 4790 at a higher base clock? How do you do that exactly? Message me.

 

 

Omg how??

 

 

The way I did it is through the Asus UEFI. I just let it to an "automatic" OC where it reboots and tries changing the clocks until it's stable. With the unlocked CPUs, the only thing that can be adjusted is the baseclock. So it bumped it up to 103 (3% increase) which means it can now turbo to 3.7 instead of 3.6. :D

 

It can be done manually and there are some tutorials on youtube if you want to try. With my system, it wouldn't let me change anything manually, so my only option was to do the automatic OC method. I think Linus has a video where he OC's a Xeon using the baseclock method. 

 

It also adjusts the system ram clocks since they're tied to the baseclock. So now my ram runs at 1648 instead of 1600. Just something to note.

 

 

You can mess around with multipliers on a Z-Series board and a locked CPU without changing the BCLK. 

 

Example:  You get "4 bins", or 400MHz, to step up the multiplier.  You can dump all four bins in a single core for a boost of 400MHz on it, or spread that out... two cores could each get 200MHz each.  This thread is NOT about setting a turbo multiplier to always be active:

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/277822-29-3770-turbo-overclocking

 

Then of course there is the BCLK OC, you better go research this.  The i7 930 (or 950, can't remember now) was the last Intel I had done this way.  It is very real performance though.

 

 

ON TOPIC!  I had some pet peeves, now I forgot them...

 

Oh... when some requests a purpose build and says they can spend around $2500.  Watching people fill that $2500, when you know that a $1700-$1800 build is more than enough for what they want.  Sometimes they see your suggestion as: oh, damn that is a good amount of money saved... but sometime they ignore it and you have to leave it alone.

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You can mess around with multipliers on a Z-Series board and a locked CPU without changing the BCLK. 

 

Example:  You get "4 bins", or 400MHz, to step up the multiplier.  You can dump all four bins in a single core for a boost of 400MHz on it, or spread that out... two cores could each get 200MHz each.  This thread is NOT about setting a turbo multiplier to always be active:

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/277822-29-3770-turbo-overclocking

 

Then of course there is the BCLK OC, you better go research this.  The i7 930 (or 950, can't remember now) was the last Intel I had done this way.  It is very real performance though.

I' not talking about turbo boost.

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That's 500MHz over on all 4 cores. Gotta love that OC Genie, it just completely ignores Intel's multiplier lock.

On topic : My biggest pet peeves are bad cable management and bad cooling (negative pressure, no filters, not enough fans, intake right next to exhaust, fans blowing towards eachother, etc).

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I' not talking about turbo boost.

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That's 500MHz over on all 4 cores.

On topic : My biggest pet peeves are bad cable management and bad cooling (negative pressure, no filters, not enough fans, intake right next to exhaust, fans blowing towards eachother, etc).

 

Ah, maybe Sandy Bridge is different.  I am not sure as I have never messed with these CPUs.  Awesome regardless. :)

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Got a few More to add.

1. People who get high end SLI/crossfire setups and put them with FX CPUs.

2. People who get X99 for gaming

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2. People who get X99 for gaming

Dumb question, Why? The only board that will support the chip I want is an x-99 board.

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Dumb question, Why? The only board that will support the chip I want is an x-99 board.

Because it's a waste, a 5820K, 5930K, or 5960X, will loose out, tie, or beat a 4790K by no more then 5fps. So you are buying a more expensive CPU, motherboard, and RAM for no performance gain

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Because it's a waste, a 5820K, 5930K, or 5960X, will loose out, tie, or beat a 4790K by no more then 5fps. So you are buying a more expensive CPU, motherboard, and RAM for no performance gain

Multithreaded tasks. With gaming on the side.

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