AMD Radeon R9 390X Teaser Pic – Definitely Water Cooled + Small Form Factor

[Guest Generallee]

inb4 oh noes it runs so hot surface of the sun hurr durr look at me im being funny

[pablopg69]

DVI is the 2nd most common port you'll find on a monitor. Not everyone owns one with HDMI or the more expensive Display Port. Also it's better to have a direct connection, instead of using converter adapters or converter cables.

DisplayPort is cheaper to integrate into a monitor because its loyalty free, unlike hdmi.

[AxelRantila]

DVI is the 2nd most common port you'll find on a monitor. Not everyone owns one with HDMI or the more expensive Display Port. Also it's better to have a direct connection, instead of using converter adapters or converter cables.

DisplayPort is royalty-free so I don't get why you think it is so expensive

Yes I get that adapters may not be the most elegant solution. However, DVI is a large, bulky connector and for the same space you can fit 2 DP-ports.

[Doobeedoo]

I don't mind that look, but yeah it's small and cute

[Notional]

 

THIS IS A LEAK SO TAKE IT WITH THE BIGGEST SALT YOU CAN POSSIBLY CONSUME

 

Bad photoshop is bad.

 

Look at the pci-e connector, its location, and even worse, what's missing:

The protruding bit, just to the left of the actual connector is missing, meaning the entire row of pci'e connectors, are offset to the left. 

[Zerreth]

I was curious how big the size difference was, but it seems that I found something else out:



Lets hope its a PR image fuckup cuz I really like the design.

[Notional]

I was curious how big the size difference was, but it seems that I found something else out:

R9 390XW Fake.jpg

 

 

Yup, called it too in the other thread. Pci-e connector is offset, and missing the protruding bit.

 

I will say though, that the card itself looks nice either way.

[Doobeedoo]

Teaser pic is kind of funny heh. C'mon, reveal it!

[SurvivorNVL]

Man, do I love that design.

[qwertywarrior]

since it doesnt have GGDR5

there isnt really a point to make it big

[MEC-777]

I was curious how big the size difference was, but it seems that I found something else out:

R9 390XW Fake.jpg

Lets hope its a PR image fuckup cuz I really like the design.

 

Ha! Love the DS9 reference.

 

Before even making that comparison, I figured most people could tell it's a fake image... 

[othertomperson]

What you see is likely the WCE version for high end enthusiasts. The stock R9 390X should be air cooled as it's rumored to have only a 300w TDP. If it happens to not be air cooled then it's not because the card runs hot but because they wanted to provide an all around better cooling solution (300w TDP can be easily air cooled look at the R9 290X non-reference). The "AMD runs hot" nonsense only started because of Hawaii and you know why that happened? Shitty reference air coolers not because of a hot core. If you want to be statistically right Nvidia is the company that makes cards that will burn your house down. That's not a biased opinion but actual fact.

 

ONLY 300W? wtf? No, that is AMD running hot. That is an obscene TDP for a graphics card. MY ENTIRE PC draws 500W from the wall and that's an extreme edition CPU and two high end Nvidia cards, yet one of these GPUs ONLY releases most of that in heat alone. For reference Nvidia have never released a card this hot The GTX 580 and GTX 480, both renowned for being ridiculously hot cards, were 244W and 250W respectively. 300W for a single GPU is absolutely monstrous.

 

It is absolutely a biased opinion to pass this off as acceptable.

 

 

The GPU and Memory are stack on top of each other, using a CLC to cool that single combined package is the best choice. HBM is alot hotter than GDDR to my understanding.

 

 

Did you quote the right person? I wasn't aware that I talked about memory at all

 

 

I'm not saying anything about the R7 line up. Just we need more than 2gb for modern gaming.

 

No you are, you're commenting on an R7 card not having enough vram to run a game that was just released on Ultra preset. I'm telling you that your criteria for a sub £100 card is hilariously stupid.

 

 

To be fair, AMD does know a thing or two about power efficiency.

Not everyone knows for some reason, but they released lower TDP versions of the 8-core FX CPU'S a while back.

 

Did they actually, or did they just bin them to run at a lower voltage or just lower the clock speed?

[Notional]

ONLY 300W? wtf? No, that is AMD running hot. That is an obscene TDP for a graphics card. MY ENTIRE PC draws 500W from the wall and that's an extreme edition CPU and two high end Nvidia cards, yet one of these GPUs ONLY releases most of that in heat alone.

 

It is absolutely a biased opinion to pass this off as acceptable.

 

780ti used about as much, and 290(x) is just as old, so it's pointless to compare a 2013 card with a 980. If the 3/490x is a 300w card, it's because it's going to be a beast of a koth card.

[DildorTheDecent]

Single slot I/O, three DP and one HDMI? 

 

Good job AMD. Getting the big guns out. 

[dalekphalm]

UUHHG it has no VGA, worst card EVER.

I hope that's sarcasm

 

Since, you know, running a VGA cable off one of these would be a fucking disgrace.

[othertomperson]

780ti used about as much, and 290(x) is just as old, so it's pointless to compare a 2013 card with a 980. If the 3/490x is a 300w card, it's because it's going to be a beast of a koth card.

 

The 780 Ti had TDP between the 480 and 580, which is still more than I would like, but very noticeably less than 300W. There is literally no reason to have a GPU that doubles as a room heater any more. Not from Nvidia or AMD.

 

I'm not using the word "room heater" to exaggerate. The room heater I used to use draws 243W. It's now in the bathroom. I measured the power draw at the wall. These cards release more energy in heat every second than a heater designed to warm a room draws from the wall every second. And you guys are telling me how reasonable this is.

[Notional]

The 780 Ti had TDP between the 480 and 580, which is still more than I would like, but very noticeably less than 300W. There is literally no reason to have a GPU that doubles as a room heater any more. Not from Nvidia or AMD.

 

I'm not using the word "room heater" to exaggerate. The room heater I used to use draws 243W. It's now in the bathroom. I measured the power draw at the wall. These cards release more energy in heat every second than a heater designed to warm a room draws from the wall every second. And you guys are telling me how reasonable this is.

 

You understand that TDP is not a proper industry standard, and that NVidia is known to understate the TDP  a LOT. TDP is irrelevant in its own. You have to look at TDP/performance.

[The Benjamins]

I hope that's sarcasm

 

Since, you know, running a VGA cable off one of these would be a fucking disgrace.

 

Are you saying its bad that I use VGA on my 3440x1440 Monitor?

I use a active converter to go from DP to VGA then VGA to HDMI, to get that authentic retro cinematic feel.

[othertomperson]

You understand that TDP is not a proper industry standard, and that NVidia is known to understate the TDP  a LOT. TDP is irrelevant in its own. You have to look at TDP/performance.

 

No you don't. You could have the most powerful GPU in the world, but if it makes your PC unpleasant to be around whether through noise or uncomfortable ambient temperature than that's just as big a part of the experience as the couple of extra FPS that card would get you.

[bcredeur97]

They dumping DVI? man im old...

[MEC-777]

*Ahem* http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-x-gm200-maxwell,4091-6.html

 

The Titan X runs pretty darn hot and thermal throttles. Nobody cares. I rest my case. AMD gets way too much unwarranted and unnecessary hate. I'm not AMD biased, just being objective. 

[dalekphalm]

Are you saying its bad that I use VGA on my 3440x1440 Monitor?

I use a active converter to go from DP to VGA then VGA to HDMI, to get that authentic retro cinematic feel.

I just threw up a little in my mouth.

[The Benjamins]

I just threw up a little in my mouth.

 

I just use DP, but I saw a comment on PCPer about it not having DVI and VGA. I was think do people really still use that ancient tech. and HDMI and DP can both output DVI signals. I want 3 DP on my next card. other then that I don't care, it can even only have those 3 DP for all I care.

[BiG StroOnZ]

*Ahem* http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-x-gm200-maxwell,4091-6.html

 

The Titan X runs pretty darn hot and thermal throttles. Nobody cares. I rest my case. AMD gets way too much unwarranted and unnecessary hate. I'm not AMD biased, just being objective. 

 

Well people don't really know much better to be honest. Before the 980 and 970 the 780 Ti and 780 had the ability to run pretty hot. My 780 runs hot as balls, I have to actually limit the temperature in EVGA Precision because it easily will go beyond the limits if I raise it to the 95C cap. This is even after a fresh re-Tim (why I re-Timmed it in the first place). I have it capped at 85C. In games it averages for the most part at around 78-83C. But if I load up Heaven or Valley maxed out @ 1080p it easily will sit at its cap at 85C throughout the majority of the benchmark with dips down to 83-84C. As a matter a fact, my card is currently limited by heat. I can boost all the way up to 1250MHz on the core, but it usually throttles down and averages at about 1175-1200MHz for the majority of my gaming sessions. Which is pretty disappointing. If this card came with an AIO Cooler stock, it would be glorious. I would have average temps of about 53-55C with just a single 120mm radiator and would be sitting at 1250MHz core all day. On top of that I would be able to flash a skyn3t bios on it and probably hit 1300MHz on the core easily (and maintain it).

 

So honestly, people being critical of AMD for going the watercooling route just aren't being very honest with themselves about the pros and cons of the situation. If my 780 came from the factory with an AIO cooler it would be quite a glorious card. I'm sure there are 780's out there that don't run as hot as mine, but I'm not talking about other variations of the card I'm talking about mine. And from my experience it runs pretty hot. If I don't have my Delta 120mmx38mm exhaust fan at least at 75% fan speed I can feel the heat radiating out of my case. If I ever wanted to SLI my 780 I would have been dumping a serious amount of heat into my case with or without the Deltas. 

 

I think this a slick move by AMD going the AIO cooler route, sure there will be people who will talk negatively about it. But really the pros heavily outweigh the cons of having a GPU with an AIO CLC cooler attached to it.

 

Pros:

Lower Temps

Higher Clocks

Lower Noise

Better Overclocks

 

Cons:

 

You have to use a 120mm fan slot to fit the radiator

Some people are afraid or critical of CLC coolers*

 

*not really a con, just some people are air cooling fan boys

[Notional]

*Ahem* http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-x-gm200-maxwell,4091-6.html

 

The Titan X runs pretty darn hot and thermal throttles. Nobody cares. I rest my case. AMD gets way too much unwarranted and unnecessary hate. I'm not AMD biased, just being objective. 

 

 

Woah, is this thing Fermi based? So all the people who boast the lo power and temps of the 900 series are hypocrites, if they criticize AMD for high temps in Hawaii, and the WCE of 390x. Well fanboys, here is your thermo throttling joke :lol: