PCMasterRace is Ignorant

[handymanshandle]

The only good consoles are nintendo.

Well until Console exclusives stop being a thing then sure. However at the same time I kinda like consoles(PS4,XbOne, Wii U) because like sometimes it's just cheaper and easier to get one of those options. Unfortunately old Nintendo (from around 2008) systems are practically useless. Whereas my 360 is still viable even though its successor has been out for a little over a year now. Though Nintendo needs to breath in a new franchise I feel that there is only so much they can do with their old stuff I mean it's not bad but it's getting worn out imho.

[MEC-777]

FAR too many people take the PCMR thing and the whole PC vs. console argument WAY too seriously. 

 

While so many of you waste your time bickering back and forth about cost, settings, frame rates, convenience etc., I'd rather just simply enjoy actually playing games instead.

[MEC-777]

The argument over which is cheaper and easier is relative to the individual's preferences and situation. I don't understand why some people can't see this. You can make up all the theoretical scenarios you want, but it doesn't necessarily work that way for everyone in reality.

[ShadowCaptain]

FAR too many people take the PCMR thing and the whole PC vs. console argument WAY too seriously. 

 

While so many of you waste your time bickering back and forth about cost, settings, frame rates, convenience etc., I'd rather just simply enjoy actually playing games instead.

 

This 200%

 

Look do I wish everything was on PC? yes, do I think it offers a better experiances? yes

 

But thats not the way the world works. I want to play Uncharted 4, I will buy a PS4.. because I want to experience the story and game

 

its all about the games

[airpline1]

Completely agree, however, I like PC's, while they are not easier or cheaper to build, you do get some benefits. unlike consoles.

 

I am not here to disagree or throw ape shit at your opinion, while I completely respect it and agree with it, I still like PC, But PCMR? its a sick, meaningless joke.

[Guest]

The points you have made are valid points, however i do not agree with the 'PC gaming master race' or whatever.

 

I'm a console gamer... I prefer having a console for gaming. WHY? Because i prefer it. Not because i think 'it's better graphics' or they are 'faster' like most of the console wankers come out with; i fully acknowledge that in terms or performance, price, and being able to upgrade without a whole new system PC gaming blows consoles out of the water. PC gaming is something that i have experienced, i currently have a £600 computer than to be honest wrecks the performance of most consoles. So, i'm not just some arrogant console gamer that doesn't have experience of both worlds.

 

Being able to slouch down on the couch with a controller in my hand (i know you can get them for PC, let me finish) is just something that i prefer. And having a separate machine that doesn't involve opening files, software and so on is just something that i prefer more. For me, the difference between 30/60 fps and 80+ fps really doesn't bother me that much and the difference between mediocre textures and 'ultra' doesn't either . I'm not even sure why and my points are pretty futile to be completely honest, but its just something that i prefer. Its down to personal preference. 

 

So this whole, 'PC Master Race' and the idea that PC's are superior to console gaming, is in some arguments correct. However, its personal preference. Just because someone chooses to have an xbox one (like myself) doesn't mean they think its necessarily better, but its better for them for some reason or other. Although, i am aware there is tons of console gamers' (mainly between the ages of 8-13) that are completely ignorant to the fact that PC's are superior in a number of ways. 

But that's my opinion, as is gaming preference. 

[EpicAdom]

Well...some people in the "PCMasterRace" are ignorant. Not all of them. You just showed yourself that you aren't ignorant.

[DildorTheDecent]

It's not, that's personal preference. Better for accuracy in FPS games? Yes, but have you ever played a racing game with a KB/Mouse? Fucking nightmare, I tell you. A car's control must be fluid and gradual. A keyboard doesn't offer this range of control, just on/off.

This. Trying to play a rally game with a keyboard is a nightmare. 

 

Can't wait for the G27 to show up. #PCMR

[brownninja97]

am i the only one that doesnt really give shit, i just play my games, if i enjoy them then yay, if i dont them im pissed whether its console or console.

 

The single most important reason why i prefer pc is that i can transition from gaming to working pretty quickly so my parents dont get pissed, that reason is so big that even if pc was significantly weaker then console i would stay with pc

[MEC-777]

The points you have made are valid points, however i do not agree with the 'PC gaming master race' or whatever.

 

I'm a console gamer... I prefer having a console for gaming. WHY? Because i prefer it. Not because i think 'it's better graphics' or they are 'faster' like most of the console wankers come out with; i fully acknowledge that in terms or performance, price, and being able to upgrade without a whole new system PC gaming blows consoles out of the water. PC gaming is something that i have experienced, i currently have a £600 computer than to be honest wrecks the performance of most consoles. So, i'm not just some arrogant console gamer that doesn't have experience of both worlds.

 

Being able to slouch down on the couch with a controller in my hand (i know you can get them for PC, let me finish) is just something that i prefer. And having a separate machine that doesn't involve opening files, software and so on is just something that i prefer more. For me, the difference between 30/60 fps and 80+ fps really doesn't bother me that much and the difference between mediocre textures and 'ultra' doesn't either . I'm not even sure why and my points are pretty futile to be completely honest, but its just something that i prefer. Its down to personal preference. 

 

So this whole, 'PC Master Race' and the idea that PC's are superior to console gaming, is in some arguments correct. However, its personal preference. Just because someone chooses to have an xbox one (like myself) doesn't mean they think its necessarily better, but its better for them for some reason or other. Although, i am aware there is tons of console gamers' (mainly between the ages of 8-13) that are completely ignorant to the fact that PC's are superior in a number of ways. 

But that's my opinion, as is gaming preference. 

 

To add to this, I'll share something I posted in another thread, but is very relevant to this discussion:

 

I showed a friend of mine how cheap even relatively new games were on PC (Steam, Origin, GMG, GoG etc.) and it didn't persuade him to move to PC gaming at all. He has a Macbook for his everyday PC needs and an Xbox One for gaming. He doesn't have a lot of time to game and doesn't need or want a massive games library. He's totally content to play one or two games to completion (when he has the time, a little bit at a time). Also, to him, the Xbox One graphics are "good enough" so long as the game itself is held up by it's own merits (game play mechanics, story etc.). He's certainly more than a casual gamer, but not as hard-core as I am (I'll play for hours on end). The fact remains; he just doesn't care that games are cheaper on PC, nor does he care to have the absolute best graphics/frame rate. He would rather just simply pop a game in, play it and enjoy it. And I know he's not the only one who takes this approach to gaming.

 

Another friend of mine, very different from the one I was just talking about, owns a PS3, Xbox 360 and a high-end gaming PC. I jokingly called him a "multi-plat whore" this morning (he laughed) because he said he's looking forward to GTAV for PC, even though he already bought and played the PS3 version when it first came out. This isn't the first game he's purchased for multiple platforms either. Usually he does this because of exclusive content, but my point here is; that's at least $50+ a pop for 2 different versions of the same game. He loves taking advantage of Steam sales for sure, but to him, it's worth spending the money for both of those games. To myself and my other friend, we would consider that a waste. If it brings him enjoyment, who am I to say he's wrong or tell him how to spend his own money?

 

So this is why I've said before and I'll say it again; the argument over which platform is cheaper/easier is irrelevant because it cannot be applied to everyone objectively. It's subjective and boils down to the individual's personal preferences and situation.

 

PC gaming may be objectively better in most aspects, however that doesn't mean it's the best platform for everyone.

[tobben]

there are pros and cons for both side, and the minority that bashes the other group is equally dumb/ignorant.

whether those upsides are for you, or if they even apply in your case depends on each individuals need/use

case. i don't want to join in on this discussion because there isn't one to be had in the first place. In my case pc

is the definite go to solution, it provides the best value and experience, but That doesn't mean it applies to everyone.

 

Want to change that title of yours to something abit more proper and less bias?

[Ornstein]

To add to this, I'll share something I posted in another thread, but is very relevant to this discussion:

 

I showed a friend of mine how cheap even relatively new games were on PC (Steam, Origin, GMG, GoG etc.) and it didn't persuade him to move to PC gaming at all. He has a Macbook for his everyday PC needs and an Xbox One for gaming. He doesn't have a lot of time to game and doesn't need or want a massive games library. He's totally content to play one or two games to completion (when he has the time, a little bit at a time). Also, to him, the Xbox One graphics are "good enough" so long as the game itself is held up by it's own merits (game play mechanics, story etc.). He's certainly more than a casual gamer, but not as hard-core as I am (I'll play for hours on end). The fact remains; he just doesn't care that games are cheaper on PC, nor does he care to have the absolute best graphics/frame rate. He would rather just simply pop a game in, play it and enjoy it. And I know he's not the only one who takes this approach to gaming.

 

Another friend of mine, very different from the one I was just talking about, owns a PS3, Xbox 360 and a high-end gaming PC. I jokingly called him a "multi-plat whore" this morning (he laughed) because he said he's looking forward to GTAV for PC, even though he already bought and played the PS3 version when it first came out. This isn't the first game he's purchased for multiple platforms either. Usually he does this because of exclusive content, but my point here is; that's at least $50+ a pop for 2 different versions of the same game. He loves taking advantage of Steam sales for sure, but to him, it's worth spending the money for both of those games. To myself and my other friend, we would consider that a waste. If it brings him enjoyment, who am I to say he's wrong or tell him how to spend his own money?

 

So this is why I've said before and I'll say it again; the argument over which platform is cheaper/easier is irrelevant because it cannot be applied to everyone objectively. It's subjective and boils down to the individual's personal preferences and situation.

 

PC gaming may be objectively better in most aspects, however that doesn't mean it's the best platform for everyone.

 

 

Agreed 100%.  Console/platform warz are dumb.  Just play on whatever makes you happy.

[Shahnewaz]

Impressive that you got it down that far, but my issue is, with a build like that, I would actually prefer a console. Not to mention, it's missing a mouse, keyboard (or a controller if you're that type), and mic. That's still about $20 worth of stuff in reality, but point being, $350 is a pretty good deal for an Xbox One. Even including the price of Xbox Live, it's still a pretty decent deal.

AND a monitor, add another 125.

[boboman342]

Despite all the reasoning for/against consoles, and I might add that they are some pretty dam good ones, YOU BUY THE CONSOLE FOR THE EXCLUSIVE GAME/EXPERIENCE YOU CAN ONLY GET ON SAID DEVICE!

Lets just say you want to play the new Legend of Zelda. You don't think to yourself "Hmmmm, I wonder if my pc can run the game at op settings or maybe I should just buy the new console." You buy the dam console because it is the only way you can play the fucking game. 

[APrettyCoolWalrus]

You must be dealing with the wrong side of the forum

[asim1999]

Consoles are better for ease of use

PC is for the nerds who want customisation and graphics (like me) and you can do so much more on a PC. 

With PC, you get what you pay for

[Charger]

my theory is that you need a computer anyways so may as well put more into it and play games on it and skip the console. Now of-course i even say that jokingly as i have owned most consoles and have no problem with people buying them. up until this generation i have owned almost every console from each company and this generation i only own a ps4 so far but it has years to go until i can make the claim of only owning a ps4 out of this generation of consoles.

[asim1999]

my theory is that you need a computer anyways so may as well put more into it and play games on it and skip the console. Now of-course i even say that jokingly as i have owned most consoles and have no problem with people buying them. up until this generation i have owned almost every console from each company and this generation i only own a ps4 so far but it has years to go until i can make the claim of only owning a ps4 out of this generation of consoles.

yes i get your logic. Its like spending £2000+ on a iMac and £350 on a console (£600 after a few games, the subscriptions and a few games and controllers). i dont see the logic of it either, when they could have built a flaghsip gaming rig for less than the Mac. 

[KruNight]

This totally overlooks the great things of PC gaming

[MrRavens]

Lol, oh man...

[Sammael]

My my, looks like a peasant revolt in here !!!!!!!

 

 

They grow more uppity by the day.  But it's time to put down this rebellion.  Do you want to know why we master racers are BETTER than the console peasantry?

 

 

 

 

 

Q

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look upon ye mortals and despair!

 

 

And just rub salt in the eyes, imma just leave this here.

 

 

 

 

Is that... butter on my screen?  Why yes, yes it is.  Life is better here.  I understand the bitterness and resentment, I'd be bitter too if I only had a console and had to stare at others mating with super models, while I was breeding with PEASANT STOCK !!!!!

 

 

But I am not stuck there.  But do not be ashamed peasants, there is always time to eat the ambrosia and join the ranks of the gods.  

[PC owner with questions]

This is something so many people fail to realize so much. A lot of good a well built custom rig does you when your friends are using crappy Dell boxes. Not everyone is a tech enthusiasts and it's easier getting friends together to game on the couch vs expecting all of them to have decently powerful computers.

this is true all my friends are stuck on xbox 360 and xbox 1 when I'm playing games off of steam in 1080p

[PC owner with questions]

but that doesn't mean I will not share my tech with them that is baisicly how we are all here because of tech enthusiast like Linus

[Yoinkerman]

Right. Play what you want. I'm all for that. Everyone else should be too. That's great, enjoy games.

Pcs are so far ahead of consoles that pcmr isn't even an argument. It isn't a debate, a pc trounces xbone/ps4 in every comparable aspect. (oh I can play uncharted on ps4 isn't comparable because it's not available on pc)

That being said, if you know what you're getting into and are OK with it, more power to you. You've already accepted the truth and want to game on a console anyway, and that's cool.

The points you have made are valid points, however i do not agree with the 'PC gaming master race' or whatever.

I'm a console gamer... I prefer having a console for gaming. WHY? Because i prefer it. Not because i think 'it's better graphics' or they are 'faster' like most of the console wankers come out with; i fully acknowledge that in terms or performance, price, and being able to upgrade without a whole new system PC gaming blows consoles out of the water. PC gaming is something that i have experienced, i currently have a £600 computer than to be honest wrecks the performance of most consoles. So, i'm not just some arrogant console gamer that doesn't have experience of both worlds.

Being able to slouch down on the couch with a controller in my hand (i know you can get them for PC, let me finish) is just something that i prefer. And having a separatemachine that doesn't involve opening files, software and so on is just something that i prefer more. For me, the difference between 30/60 fps and 80+ fps really doesn't bother me that much and the difference between mediocre textures and 'ultra' doesn't either . I'm not even sure why and my points are pretty futile to be completely honest, but its just something that i prefer. Its down to personal preference.

So this whole, 'PC Master Race' and the idea that PC's are superior to console gaming, is in some arguments correct. However, its personal preference. Just because someone chooses to have an xbox one (like myself) doesn't mean they think its necessarily better, but its better for them for some reason or other. Although, i am aware there is tons of console gamers' (mainly between the ages of 8-13) that are completely ignorant to the fact that PC's are superior in a number of ways.

But that's my opinion, as is gaming preference.

[The Last MeMe]

I like consoles..I just like pc better for many reason not necessarily funds.. I can download games for free... pay next to nothing for most of them during sales and with a decent pc the games look better... also there isnt a bunch of kiddies on pc plus you have games like arma and dayz on pc. On the other hand consoles are just easier to use for your average joe. The main reason I own a new console is for the exclusive releases.

Both have their advantages and disadvantages.

Also in the US at least console games RARELY go on sale. I work at Target and even when they do go on sale its no more then 10-15$ off. The only games that go on sale are the older ones that really are just having a price drop... ALL the games in my steam library (around 50 games) I have never paid full price for any of them and MOST of them ive paid less than 10$ for... I got the new tomb raider just a few months after release for like 8$ or something... arma 3 usually 60$ I got on sale for 18$... DayZ I believe is the most expensive game in my library at 30$.. so although your price issue is somewhat valid as far as up front costs go the oc will EASILY pay for its self by saving on live costs and games costs.

Like I said I play console and have nothing against them I didnt start pc gaming until I was about 17... before that I was all about the consoles