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Like, just generally, Intel stuff just sounds cooler and then the AMD equivalent is kinda just bland. And then they don't go overboard like asus or msi or whoever. i just really like their names.

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no, intel is awful. they *have* good codenames, and then go about making an asbolute horrid mess of their product names...

 

intel's naming scheme is made for the very purpose to confuse you, just so you have no real idea of which product of theirs is in this device you're buying.

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31 minutes ago, okkee said:

Like, just generally, Intel stuff just sounds cooler and then the AMD equivalent is kinda just bland. And then they don't go overboard like asus or msi or whoever. i just really like their names.

You mean like

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And stuff like what @Skipple gave as example ?

 

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10 minutes ago, okkee said:

Like, just generally, Intel stuff just sounds cooler and then the AMD equivalent is kinda just bland. And then they don't go overboard like asus or msi or whoever. i just really like their names.

Can you give examples?

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TechDeals had quite a rant a couple months ago about Intel and their cpu models , starts at about 13:20, going at it at around 16:20 :

 

 

 

 

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What model names specifically? I prefer the way AMD has been naming their product stack, it's easy to follow and know what generation, model of chip, etc.. Intels feels more difficult than it needs to be and harder to follow but it's like they do that on purpose to complicate it for the consumer. In the end they should have a name that is easy for the consumer to understand and know what they are looking at and buying. It's a cpu I don't really care what they call it, i'm going to buy the one that I feel makes the most sense price/performance/supporting components. Which for me has always been AMD in my towers and servers.

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40 minutes ago, okkee said:

and then the AMD equivalent is kinda just bland.

@da na do you know any "cool" namings from AMD?

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I'd argue the opposite actually. Ryzen and EPYC sound pretty damn cool when compared to..... Core.

Go back further and you've got stuff like Turion Ultra ZM-80 - the whole Turion line was awful but the name sure sounded badass! AMD's last uncool processor was the K6, since then all their chips have sounded pretty rad.

 

Intel's names have been awful for a while. Core 2 Duo naming scheme was very reasonable. P, T (rarely U or E) prefix to signify generation and socket, 4 digit number for clockspeed, FSB, and cache. First few i series generations were reasonably named but it went downhill fast.

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3 minutes ago, da na said:

I'd argue the opposite actually. Ryzen and EPYC sound pretty damn cool when compared to..... Core.

Go back further and you've got stuff like Turion Ultra ZM-80 - the whole Turion line was awful but the name sure sounded badass!

I've always been a big fan of ThreadRipper tbh 

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29 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Can you give examples?

thunderbolt, hyperthreading, turbo boost, arc, atom, xeon (which unfortunately loses to epyc but still...), speedstep

 

the cpu naming needs a bit of work and core ultra, which sounds kinda nice ngl, is going to further the mess

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you think a 3050 would be faster then a 2080 right? nop or a 1650 super faster then a 1080ti...🤷‍♂️🤔

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30 minutes ago, da na said:

I'd argue the opposite actually. Ryzen and EPYC sound pretty damn cool when compared to..... Core.

Go back further and you've got stuff like Turion Ultra ZM-80 - the whole Turion line was awful but the name sure sounded badass! AMD's last uncool processor was the K6, since then all their chips have sounded pretty rad.

 

Intel's names have been awful for a while. Core 2 Duo naming scheme was very reasonable. P, T (rarely U or E) prefix to signify generation and socket, 4 digit number for clockspeed, FSB, and cache. First few i series generations were reasonably named but it went downhill fast.

And then you have stuff like FirePro and whatever, Nvidia has boring SLI, AMD has Crossfire

 

we're just ignoring all the cool things here,

 

even the x3D chips sound pretty cool, even if they're literally referencing the 3D stacked cache memory

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11 minutes ago, thrasher_565 said:

you think a 3050 would be faster then a 2080 right? nop or a 1650 super faster then a 1080ti...🤷‍♂️🤔

I wouldn't, because 80 > 50

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28 minutes ago, GOTSpectrum said:

I've always been a big fan of ThreadRipper tbh 

oh my, how could I forget this, probably since it's referencing something only people with Workstations and such would buy I guess, which makes the name fade away faster, than Crossfire, which is dead but it was used sometimes in gaming before too

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Just now, podkall said:

I wouldn't, because 80 > 50

16>10🤔 unless your following pc parts you might not no...

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1 minute ago, thrasher_565 said:

16>10🤔 unless your following pc parts you might not no...

that's series, here's a simple one,

 

RTX 2060 or GTX 1080Ti?

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37 minutes ago, podkall said:

that's series, here's a simple one,

 

RTX 2060 or GTX 1080Ti?

i no how it works is the 50 series 60 series 70 series 80 series 90 series and the super and ti are like a 1085? far as i no super and ti are the same? i dont even no... maybe its ti 1085 and super 1087?🤷‍♂️

 

so you would compare 1650 with a 2050 and so on

 

but they are made because the smaller the nm the more wast they get that they cant make the fastes chips so they got all this "wast" so they make it in to new pruducts and well 64+ 13 gen cpus... and they must get made in to stuff or they would not be made i guess... 🤷‍♂️ then there amd cpu on the mix and server cpus... back then we had 3 gpus...as soon as one got beaten they stop making them...

 

then there the low amount of cores fast mhz vs lots of cores low mhz and they all have there use case.

 

hmm just looking on ammazon i see a $399 3060 12gb and a $399 4060 8gb...

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39 minutes ago, okkee said:

thunderbolt, hyperthreading, turbo boost, arc, atom, xeon (which unfortunately loses to epyc but still...), speedstep

 

the cpu naming needs a bit of work and core ultra, which sounds kinda nice ngl, is going to further the mess

Let's not forget the K6-2 350 🙂

 

AMD can do the stupid number naming game too.

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6 hours ago, Dedayog said:

Let's not forget the K6-2 350 🙂

 

AMD can do the stupid number naming game too.

K6 seems quite straightforward save for the 2 suffix.

What about... Turion 64 X2 Ultra ZM86.

They just kept adding more numbers to the names as the Turion line expanded.

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Let’s throw up some of intels highlights

*ahem*


i5 L16g7 and the i3 L13g4

these ones are absolutely fucking absurd, they’re 5 core processors, yes, a 5 core i3 exists, the only difference between them is a clock speed bump on the “i5”

The L? Means low power in general, as 7 watt chips. But then that’s also a U sku tier used at the same time?

the G7 and G4 have no discernible meaning, they’re not generational tags, they’re technically their own thing entirely but they’re also intel 10th gen by timing
 

i7 5775c and the i5 5675c

Why C? No idea. Why break to a 5? No idea. Slightly worse than the i7 4771 as a name. These are “braswell” chips, the mostly forgotten Intel 5th gen on desktops, using Z97 chipsets exclusively

 

pentium E6500k

E in wolfdale is meaningless, they just have E’s in their name. But the k was the first time intel decided to use a letter to indicate the cpu was meant for overclocking

it’s also not a pentium, it’s also not a 6000 series, it’s more like a core2duo e8400, just designed to be overclocked 

 

i5 12490F

so we have the 12400F, and china gets the 12490F, they can’t call it a 12500 because that exists, so they just cut an arbitrary quantity off of the name to indicate it has slightly more cache 

the inconsistency is what gets me, sometimes it’s 5, sometimes it’s 9, sometimes it’s 10


i3 6098P, i3 7101TE and the i5 6502P

i have no fucking clue, I think these have different igpus? The 6098P is supposedly a desktop version of a mobile i3? They’re all 1151 socket bullshit chips that work on any H110 board for some reason.

 

Or how about how scalable Xeons need a whole ass chart to explain their dumb names

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or how some intel itanium 2 processors didn’t even have names, they just used manufacturing names

https://www.cpu-world.com/info/Intel/Intel_Itanium_2.html
man I can’t wait to get my cpu upgrade in the mail, a YA80543KC0253M

 

 

 

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Intel at least is better with GPU names.
Nvidia has kept it classy, famous scientists, Kepler, Fermi, Turing, Maxwell, etc

AMD went with geography, mostly islands, tropical islands, sea islands, northern islands, and so on.

 

Intel jumped into the game like

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but as far as product names go? Live in fear of the nvidia GeForce 7 series.

Go to techpowerup and start digging through the 7000 series cards, it’s astonishing how many different suffixes there were for gpus before they got simplified.

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/?generation=GeForce+7+PCIe&sort=generation

and that’s just the pcie ones, there’s agp variants for a bunch of those too

 

Do you want a GeForce 7900 GS, GT, GTO, GTX or GX2?
Want any of those as a 7950?
How about in AGP with the same GS name?

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45 minutes ago, 8tg said:

Or how about how scalable Xeons need a whole ass chart to explain their dumb names

IMG_2259.thumb.png.7ec4ab01c4afa80c2197196408e8ba77.png

 

or how some intel itanium 2 processors didn’t even have names, they just used manufacturing names

https://www.cpu-world.com/info/Intel/Intel_Itanium_2.html
man I can’t wait to get my cpu upgrade in the mail, a YA80543KC0253M

The AMD mobile line up is honestly easier to read then that chart, even if they are similar. 

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