AMD Announces 7900XTX $999, 7900XT $899, Arriving December 13

[Mister Woof]

Summary

AMD Announces 7900XTX $999, 7900XT $899, Arriving December 13

 

Quotes

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The third generation RDNA architecture is finally here. The company introduces Radeon RX 7900 XTX and Radeon RX 7900 XT graphics cards. The first features a full Navi 31 GPU with 12288 Stream Processors, while the latter is based on a cut-down GPU with 10752 cores.

AMD RDNA3 architecture based on 5nm node is the first chiplet design for consumer Radeon GPUs. The GPU features one compute tile made in 5nm process with six memory chiplets made with 6nm node.

 

My thoughts

Midrange segment is unimportant to them. That sucks. Seems neither company wants to focus on that segment at all. Previous announcements included the RTX 3070 and Radeon RX 6800.

 

Sources

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-announces-radeon-rx-7900xtx-and-7900xt-with-navi-31-rdna3-gpu

 

[PDifolco]

Ouch take that NVidia, pricing is quite good imo, supposing they'll compete with the $1100 real 4080 and $1600 4090 

 

[Delicieuxz]

AMD's not holding back the RAM.

 

AMD's 7900 XTX - 24GB VRAM - $1000

AMD's 7900 XT - 20GB VRAM - $900

 

Nvidia's RTX 4090 - 24GB - $1600

Nvidia's RTX 4080 - 16 GB - $1200

 

 

 

A rough estimate of how the 7900 XTX should perform, taking AMD's word at face-value:

[Mister Woof]

Just now, PDifolco said:

Ouch take that NVidia, pricing is quite good imo, supposing they'll compete with the $1100 real 4080 and $1600 4090 

 

I was surprised they offered no 1st party benchmarks. It feels like they're avoiding comparing themselves tot he 4090 which they aren't trying to really compete with based on price. Seems they are focused on the 4080 and lower much like they did during the 5000 series. Just way more expensive.

[Quackers101]

still a bit better than other offerings, although sad to see it lack other components. (or they might be in there and be good)

not a good price, when lower cards might be around 600-ish that hopefully doesn't lack major performance compared to previous generations too.

to the naming xtx vs xt, will there be an non-xt too? hopefully their AV1 encode + decode will finally get them somewhere.

 

from the streaming, AI general tasks to raytracing that could be more needed and not for just "RT ON".

Edited November 3, 2022 by Quackers101

[AlTech]

AMD's website says the 7900XTX only has 6144 SPs tho. I'm super confused.

[Senzelian]

Pricing is of course really competitive. I guess largely enabled by the chiplet design and by their competition and their relatively speaking lack of additional software features or the quality of it. 

[PaulFCB]

1.5x in Exodus with Ray Tracing means it’s on par with 3090 350W and significantly weaker than 4080 320W, they didn’t even dare to show RT in Cyberpunk. Makes the 200$ more for the 4080 look like it’s worth it again.

 

 But DP 2.1 guyz, just lower settings, set FSR to max performance mode and of course RT is not important, you can get those FPS you paid for.

[GOTSpectrum]

I can't wait to see them jam two compute dies on one card, rx 7950 xtx

 

 

Also can't wait for xfx models, xfx rx 7900 xtx gaming x 

[Mister Woof]

Just now, AluminiumTech said:

AMD's website says the 7900XTX only has 6144 SPs tho. I'm super confused.

IDK I just quoted part of the article. They may have had a typo.

[Motifator]

The top end cards usually come out the first, then the smaller siblings. Often times lower tier cards are made out of bigger GPU parts too.

I'd like to see non-RT FPS numbers, but I'm sure these slap the Nvidia cards without RT involvement.

I might grab a 7900 for myself... some time, hopefully. Just this idiotic G-Sync only monitor, ugh. Nvidia says I use their cards or I get Novideo regarding VRR.

[AlTech]

Just now, Quackers101 said:

still a bit better than other offerings, although sad to see it lack other components.

not a good price, when lower cards might be around 600-ish that hopefully doesn't lack major performance compared to previous generations too.

to the naming xtx vs xt, will there be an non-xt too?

For some cards I imagine their will be like 7800 vs 7800XT that has been rumoured.

Just now, Quackers101 said:

hopefully their AV1 encode + decode will finally get them somewhere.

 

[Mister Woof]

2 minutes ago, GOTSpectrum said:

I can't wait to see them jam two compute dies on one card, rx 7950 xtx

 

 

Also can't wait for xfx models, xfx rx 7900 xtx gaming x 

XFX RX 7900 XTXUSSY 

XFX RADEON RX 7900XTX TWERK 619 EDITION

[Blademaster91]

8 minutes ago, Shimmy Gummi said:

Midrange segment is unimportant to them. That sucks. Seems neither company wants to focus on that segment at all. Previous announcements included the RTX 3070 and Radeon RX 6800.

I agree on this, I was looking forward to the 7800XT, the rumors are AMD is going to launch it at CES.

Though the same has sort of happened with CPU's, lots of hype for the Intel i9 and the Ryzen 9, but not much for review coverage on the midrange.

[Mister Woof]

Just now, Motifator said:

The top end cards usually come out the first, then the smaller siblings. Often times lower tier cards are made out of bigger GPU parts too.

I'd like to see non-RT FPS numbers, but I'm sure these slap the Nvidia cards without RT involvement.

I might grab a 7900 for myself... some time, hopefully. Just this idiotic G-Sync only monitor, ugh. Nvidia says I use their cards or I get Novideo regarding VRR.

That they do, but they also announced them at the same time last time.

[PaulFCB]

 

1 minute ago, Motifator said:

I'd like to see non-RT FPS numbers, but I'm sure these slap the Nvidia cards without RT involvement.

 
 Graphs were without RT for 2077 and Legion, I might wonder why.

 

 

 

 Sorry, but going on lite RT as RE8 or Doom and insisting it’s not relevant now as if it’s September 2018 is pretty much hiding it under rug, they got a free pass with RDNA2 but now all they did is push numbers with ‘FSR 2 On’ and fake 8k proven to be 7680x2160 so a 4k Ultrawide which is not that 4x 4k.

[Senzelian]

2 minutes ago, Blademaster91 said:

I was looking forward to the 7800XT

You might be looking at it, considering there is now a XTX model. I would assume that the 7900XT would've usually been the 7800XT, but for some reason they didn't like that name. 

[AlTech]

6 minutes ago, GOTSpectrum said:

I can't wait to see them jam two compute dies on one card, rx 7950 xtx

At least for now it's not gonna happen.

 

Multiple GPU chiplets where the chiplets have graphics cores still doesn't work well for gaming. It is possible we may never see them released.

6 minutes ago, GOTSpectrum said:

 

Also can't wait for xfx models, xfx rx 7900 xtx gaming x 

 

6 minutes ago, Shimmy Gummi said:

IDK I just quoted part of the article. They may have had a typo.

I wonder if the mistake might be with AMD's technical writers given that AMD has had 64 SPs per CU for the past 10 years.

 

Suddenly changing to 128 per CU, if that's what AMD did, may have thrown their technical writers.

 

I suppose we'll find out soon enough.

[GOTSpectrum]

5 minutes ago, GOTSpectrum said:

I can't wait to see them jam two compute dies on one card, rx 7950 xtx

 

But seriously, if they could do this, after efficiency changes and wherever bottlenecks, we could see a 100 Tflop card...

[Motifator]

3 minutes ago, PaulFCB said:

1.5x in Exodus with Ray Tracing means it’s on par with 3090 350W and significantly weaker than 4080 320W, they didn’t even dare to show RT in Cyberpunk. Makes the 200$ more for the 4080 look like it’s worth it again.

 

 But DP 2.1 guyz, just lower settings, set FSR to max performance mode and of course RT is not important, you can get those FPS you paid for.

Leather jacket fanboys will always show themselves in these threads, did you even look at the pictures they provided? DP 1.4 can already do 240 Hz at 4k. The DP parametric is more of an extra to even the most high end fellas, not a norm.

Another user also pointed out lower quality and they should realize that these cards use higher quality node, which is how this chiplet design became what it is.

[AlTech]

1 minute ago, Senzelian said:

You might be looking at it, considering there is now a XTX model. I would assume that the 7900XT would've usually been the 7800XT, but for some reason they didn't like that name. 

I think there'll still be a 7800XT model but I'm not sure we'll ever know if the real 7800XT was repurposed as the 7900XT or kept as the 7800XT.

[Exty]

 

 

Looks like the 7900 xtx is more than double the perf of 6950 xt at least on paper even the 7900 xt is double

[GOTSpectrum]

1 minute ago, AluminiumTech said:

At least for now it's not gonna happen.

 

Multiple GPU chiplets where the chiplets have graphics cores still doesn't work well for gaming. It is possible we may never see them released.

1. I was mostly having a laugh

 

2. There's more to GPUs than gaming

[PDifolco]

1 minute ago, Motifator said:

Leather jacket fanboys will always show themselves in these threads, did you even look at the pictures they provided? DP 1.4 can already do 240 Hz at 4k. The DP parametric is more of an extra to even the most high end fellas, not a norm.

Another user also pointed out lower quality and they should realize that these cards use higher quality node, which is how this chiplet design became what it is.

Really I've been disappointed by RT on my 3080, not because of the drop in fps, but because the drop didn't make anything look really better !

[Senzelian]

5 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

I think there'll still be a 7800XT model but I'm not sure we'll ever know if the real 7800XT was repurposed as the 7900XT or kept as the 7800XT.

Yup. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Ignore the names. Look at performance and price and then if you want to call them all  6969XYLOL3D.

 

3 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Really I've been disappointed by RT on my 3080, not because of the drop in fps, but because the drop didn't make anything look really better !

Yup I agree. I tried Cyberpunk 2077 with RT and a few other games and this was the only one where I found the game to actually look noticeably better, but wasn't worth the performance decrease.