Are You For Or Against Guns?

[Murdoch]

the number one most used object to kill someone is a hammer. true story.

 

This http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/03/FBI-More-People-Killed-With-Hammers-and-Clubs-Each-Year-Than-With-Rifles

 

Hammers vs Rifles. Talk about taking selective stats to drive home some propaganda.

 

Here's a stat for you to ponder. In 2010, there were 19,392 firearm-related suicides, and 11,078 firearm-related homicides in the U.S.

 

From the article you linked:

 

For example, in 2011 there was 323 murders committed with a rifle but 496 murders committed with hammers and clubs.

 

A fraction of the full picture.

[RelentlessAF]

Guns are easier. Do you know how much effort it takes to swing a sword or machete enough times and hard enough to cleanly kill 20 people? I mean jeez, that's a workout right there.

I think someone who planned to kill with a sword or machete would've done the necessary pre-murder spree practice swings.

[DoubleY]

The connection from Video Games to guns is completely (pardon my phrasing) retarded. If video games really had impacts on what people do, why aren't my parents jumping around in white jumpsuits hopping on turtles and bees while throwing fire?

 

While this is an extreme example, my point still stands. 

[Jaybird]

Hammers vs Rifles. Talk about taking selective stats to drive home some propaganda.

 

Here's a stat for you to ponder. In 2010, there were 19,392 firearm-related suicides, and 11,078 firearm-related homicides in the U.S.

 

From the article you linked:

 

 

 

 

A fraction of the full picture.

good point. we should put hammers behind a locked cage and require you to be 21 to purchase and have hammers registered. that'll crack down on hammer murders. 

[AlwaysFSX]

I think someone who planned to kill with a sword or machete would've done the necessary pre-murder spree practice swings.

Eh, too much effort. Just use a gun.

[Guest]

The connection from Video Games to guns is completely (pardon my phrasing) retarded. If video games really had impacts on what people do, why aren't my parents jumping around in white jumpsuits hopping on turtles and bees while throwing fire?

 

While this is an extreme example, my point still stands. 

Please note I do not believe there is a connection between video games and violent crime. If any one knows how to change the tile I will.

[RelentlessAF]

Eh, too much effort. Just use a gun.

But then you have to squeeze your finger a bunch and that can get really tiring.

[Jaybird]

Please note I do not believe there is a connection between video games and violent crime. If any one knows how to change the tile I will.

click edit on the original post and click  full editor.

[DoubleY]

Please note I do not believe there is a connection between video games and violent crime. If any one knows how to change the tile I will.

When you edit your post, click the "Full Editor" button (or something similar) 

[Murdoch]

good point. we should put hammers behind a locked cage and require you to be 21 to purchase and have hammers registered. that'll crack down on hammer murders. 

 

Or, you should make rifles available to buy in hardware stores and use them to do basic DIY tasks. I don't see the correlation to be fair. But I'll never under estimate the ability for people to come up with retarded arguments, like the guy in that article.

[canadianultra]

I think its proven in other countries similar to your own "hint my name" that guns do not make people safer, but its your country so take my opinion with a grain of salt 

[AlwaysFSX]

Or, you should make rifles available to buy in hardware stores and use them to do basic DIY tasks. I don't see the correlation to be fair. But I'll never under estimate the ability for people to come up with retarded arguments, like the guy in that article.

I feel this is now topic related.

[Guest]

When you edit your post, click the "Full Editor" button (or something similar) 

thx changing now 

[Biggerisbetter]

I say give guns to the people. Let them kill one another. But once a child dies due to a irresponsible parent. Who leaves their gun laying around . Fry them in the chair. You cant stop people from killing one another.

[Lord Pantaloons]

Do I think it would be cool to own a handgun? Yes

 

Do I think owning guns is stupid (apart from hunters and competition shooters)? Yes, they cause pointless harm, and are dangerous. 

 

Case in point - man enters school with gun, 22 dead https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting

man enters school with knife, 0 dead http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/09/us-usa-pennsylvania-stabbing-idUSBREA380XQ20140409

 

In Australia, there was a massacre in Tasmania that killed 30+ people with an AR-15 derivative. A sniper shot 7 people dead from a rooftop in melbourne. Guns were generally banned, including airsoft. No more large shooting rampages in Australia.

 

You can't trust the population with guns, there are too many bad cases.

The guns are only dangerous when the people who have them choose to make them so, don't be daft.

[Guest]

I say give guns to the people. Let them kill one another. But once a child dies due to a irresponsible parent. Who leave their gun laying around . Fry them in the chair. You cant stop people from killing one another.

Agreed. As you said this is not a case of gun violence by rather one of parent irresponsibility.

[Lord Pantaloons]

I do know, because our soft as butter judges release everyone who cowardly king hit people. But my main point is that guns have the potential to harm at a greater rate and magnitude than anything else. When was the last time someone entered a school and beat 20 people to death? Or stabbed 20 people to death?

There was that incident in china where more than 20 people were killed by a bunch of guys with knives

[tS_kStin]

I am all for gun ownership. I own guns, I am getting a handgun for concealed carry, and I am a Hunter, and I live in Montana guns and trucks are the things to have here.

[Jaybird]

Or, you should make rifles available to buy in hardware stores and use them to do basic DIY tasks. I don't see the correlation to be fair. But I'll never under estimate the ability for people to come up with retarded arguments, like the guy in that article.

well they kinda do. they make a nail gun that uses a .22 casing so you can get a nail into concrete quickly. 

 

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ramset-Hammer-Shot-0-22-Caliber-Single-Shot-Tool-00022/100091715

[Lays]

Do I think it would be cool to own a handgun? Yes

 

Do I think owning guns is stupid (apart from hunters and competition shooters)? Yes, they cause pointless harm, and are dangerous. 

 

Case in point - man enters school with gun, 22 dead https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting

man enters school with knife, 0 dead http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/09/us-usa-pennsylvania-stabbing-idUSBREA380XQ20140409

 

In Australia, there was a massacre in Tasmania that killed 30+ people with an AR-15 derivative. A sniper shot 7 people dead from a rooftop in melbourne. Guns were generally banned, including airsoft. No more large shooting rampages in Australia.

 

You can't trust the population with guns, there are too many bad cases.

 

 

This has nothing to do with whether people have guns or not, if a crazy ass person is going to kill a bunch of people, they're going to figure out how to get said weapon.

[Murdoch]

well they kinda do. they make a nail gun that uses a .22 casing so you can get a nail into concrete quickly. 

 

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ramset-Hammer-Shot-0-22-Caliber-Single-Shot-Tool-00022/100091715

 

Haha, yeah. I was just saying comparing how many people get killed by one means or another using stats can be pretty stupid.

 

Reminds me of this joke:

 

[bluepoodleguy]

This poll needs some context. For or against guns in what respect?

 

Do I think they should be available to everybody, nope. Do I believe they should be available to some people under certain circumstances, yepp.

Context is everything. Should criminals be armed to commit crime? No. Should responsible citizens be allowed to own firearms to protect their lives and property if confronted with an armed attacker? Yes. To own firearms for target shooting and hunting? Yes.

[Guest]

Context is everything. Should criminals be armed to commit crime? No. Should responsible citizens be allowed to own firearms to protect their lives and property if confronted with an armed attacker? Yes. To own firearms for target shooting and hunting? Yes.

I'm just talking in general terms. Fill in the specifics yourself like you did.

[Jaybird]

This is my baby. and yes its a .45 with a 5" barrel.

[Guest]

Haha, yeah. I was just saying comparing how many people get killed by one means or another using stats can be pretty stupid.

 

Reminds me of this joke:

 

I am literally on the floor right now.