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2 hours ago, GreenLeaf said:

is it? or the 14900 k is a better value?

58 minutes ago, GreenLeaf said:

i stiil need that cores

If you actually need more than 8c, then yes. The best value for multicore though is the 14700k, but at the cost of power consumption and lacking the framerate stability of 3D v-cache.

 

7950x3D can nearly match the 7950x while also having a built in 7800x3D. Its the best of both worlds if you tune it properly in the UEFI. 7950x is peak efficient at a 105W, 14900k just simply isn't. TDP locking a 14900k to 150W seems to be its sweat spot, but at a higher performance loss.

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is it? or the 14900 k is a better value?

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1 minute ago, GreenLeaf said:

is it? or the 14900 k is a better value?

Yes or even 7800X3D, depending on the workload. I don't think 14900k makes sense, both in price and power usage. I would rather spend more on a GPU.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i9-14900k/

 

CPU: Ryzen 5800X3D | Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 Elite V2 | RAM: G.Skill Aegis 2x16gb 3200 @3600mhz | PSU: EVGA SuperNova 750 G3 | Monitor: LG 27GL850-B , Samsung C27HG70 | 
GPU: Red Devil RX 7900XT with custom 3D printed AIO mount, X62 | Sound: Odac + Fiio E09K | Case: Fractal Design R6 TG Blackout |Storage: MP510 960gb and 860 Evo 500gb | Cooling: CPU: Noctua NH-D15

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14 minutes ago, GreenLeaf said:

is it? or the 14900 k is a better value?

How much productivity? Or gaming?

 

Remember, the 7800x3d is still an 8c chip.  Do you need a 16c+ monster?

 

Be realistic with your needs and don't give in to hype and epeen.  Money can be allocated to other things.

 

 

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

Onyx : AMD Ryzen 7 7800x3d / MSI 6900xt Gaming X Trio / Gigabyte B650 AORUS Pro AX / G. Skill Flare X5 6000CL36 32GB / Samsung 980 1TB x3 / Super Flower Leadex V Platinum Pro 850 / EK-AIO 360 Basic / Fractal Design North XL (black mesh) / AOC AGON 35" 3440x1440 100Hz / Mackie CR5BT / Corsair Virtuoso SE / Cherry MX Board 3.0 / Logitech G502

 

7800X3D - PBO -30 all cores, 4.90GHz all core, 5.05GHz single core, 18286 C23 multi, 1779 C23 single

 

Emma : i9 9900K @5.1Ghz - Gigabyte AORUS 1080Ti - Gigabyte AORUS Z370 Gaming 5 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200CL16 - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB (RAID0) - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 360mm - Fractal Design Define R6 - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi

 

Raven: AMD Ryzen 5 5600x3d - ASRock B550M Pro4 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3200Mhz - XFX Radeon RX6650XT - Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB - TP-Link AC600 USB Wifi - Gigabyte GP-P450B PSU -  Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L -  Samsung 27" 1080p

 

Plex : AMD Ryzen 5 5600 - Gigabyte B550M AORUS Elite AX - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 2400Mhz - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Crucial P3 Plus 500GB + WD Red NAS 4TBx2 - TP-Link AC1200 PCIe Wifi - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - ASUS Prime AP201 - Spectre 24" 1080p

 

Steam Deck 512GB OLED

 

OnePlus: 

OnePlus 11 5G - 16GB RAM, 256GB NAND, Eternal Green

OnePlus Buds Pro 2 - Eternal Green

 

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- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

- Lenovo 720S Touch 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400MHz, 512GB NVMe SSD, 1050Ti, 4K touchscreen

- MSI GF62 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400 MHz, 256GB NVMe SSD + 1TB 7200rpm HDD, 1050Ti

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1 hour ago, Dedayog said:

How much productivity? Or gaming?

 

Remember, the 7800x3d is still an 8c chip.  Do you need a 16c+ monster?

 

Be realistic with your needs and don't give in to hype and epeen.  Money can be allocated to other things.

 

 

i am balanced between productivity and gaming yeah i need 16c+ remember the 14900k is 8 power and 16 efficiency  
 

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4 minutes ago, GreenLeaf said:

yeah i need 16c+

Can't imagine what heavy large language models you are computing. I did UE5 development and my 5800X3D was plenty, half the cores of a 7950X3D and also still slower than a 7800X3D. 

Desktop: Ryzen 7 5800X3D - Kraken X62 Rev 2 - STRIX X470-I - 3600MHz 32GB Kingston Fury - 250GB 970 Evo boot - 2x 500GB 860 Evo - 1TB P3 - 4TB HDD - RX6800 - RMx 750 W 80+ Gold - Manta - Silent Wings Pro 4's enjoyer

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7 minutes ago, venomtail said:

Can't imagine what heavy large language models you are computing. I did UE5 development and my 5800X3D was plenty, half the cores of a 7950X3D and also still slower than a 7800X3D. 

i stiil need that cores

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17 minutes ago, GreenLeaf said:

and a 4090 🙂

 

18 minutes ago, GreenLeaf said:

i stiil need that cores

And you haven't told us why.

 

Get the 14900k and 4090. You obviously want them, so get them.

 

Not sure why you're asking for validation here.

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

Onyx : AMD Ryzen 7 7800x3d / MSI 6900xt Gaming X Trio / Gigabyte B650 AORUS Pro AX / G. Skill Flare X5 6000CL36 32GB / Samsung 980 1TB x3 / Super Flower Leadex V Platinum Pro 850 / EK-AIO 360 Basic / Fractal Design North XL (black mesh) / AOC AGON 35" 3440x1440 100Hz / Mackie CR5BT / Corsair Virtuoso SE / Cherry MX Board 3.0 / Logitech G502

 

7800X3D - PBO -30 all cores, 4.90GHz all core, 5.05GHz single core, 18286 C23 multi, 1779 C23 single

 

Emma : i9 9900K @5.1Ghz - Gigabyte AORUS 1080Ti - Gigabyte AORUS Z370 Gaming 5 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200CL16 - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB (RAID0) - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 360mm - Fractal Design Define R6 - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi

 

Raven: AMD Ryzen 5 5600x3d - ASRock B550M Pro4 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3200Mhz - XFX Radeon RX6650XT - Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB - TP-Link AC600 USB Wifi - Gigabyte GP-P450B PSU -  Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L -  Samsung 27" 1080p

 

Plex : AMD Ryzen 5 5600 - Gigabyte B550M AORUS Elite AX - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 2400Mhz - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Crucial P3 Plus 500GB + WD Red NAS 4TBx2 - TP-Link AC1200 PCIe Wifi - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - ASUS Prime AP201 - Spectre 24" 1080p

 

Steam Deck 512GB OLED

 

OnePlus: 

OnePlus 11 5G - 16GB RAM, 256GB NAND, Eternal Green

OnePlus Buds Pro 2 - Eternal Green

 

Other Tech:

- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

- Lenovo 720S Touch 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400MHz, 512GB NVMe SSD, 1050Ti, 4K touchscreen

- MSI GF62 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400 MHz, 256GB NVMe SSD + 1TB 7200rpm HDD, 1050Ti

- Ubiquiti Amplifi HD mesh wifi

 

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2 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Not sure why you're asking for validation here.

i don't really sure.

14900k offer better performance in what i am doing but the 7950X3D offers upgrade path

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3 minutes ago, GreenLeaf said:

14900k offer better performance in what i am doing but the 7950X3D offers upgrade path

In your mind, what does this "better performance" look like? Saving you 2 minutes on an export? 5? an hour? 

Ryzen 7 7800x3D -  Asus RTX4090 TUF OC- Asrock X670E Taichi - 32GB DDR5-6000CL30 - SuperFlower 1000W - Fractal Torrent - Assassin IV - 42" LG C2

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2 hours ago, GreenLeaf said:

is it? or the 14900 k is a better value?

7950X3D fits perfectly !

95% productivity performance of the 14900K for half the power usage, and same or better in gaming

System : AMD R9  7950X3D CPU/ Asus ROG STRIX X670E-E board/ 2x32GB G-Skill Trident Z Neo 6000CL30 RAM / ASUS TUF Gaming AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX OC Edition GPU/ Phanteks P600S case /  Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 cooler (with 2xArctic P12 Max fans) /  2TB WD SN850 NVme + 2TB Crucial T500  NVme  + 4TB Toshiba X300 HDD / Corsair RM850x PSU

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2 hours ago, GreenLeaf said:

is it? or the 14900 k is a better value?

58 minutes ago, GreenLeaf said:

i stiil need that cores

If you actually need more than 8c, then yes. The best value for multicore though is the 14700k, but at the cost of power consumption and lacking the framerate stability of 3D v-cache.

 

7950x3D can nearly match the 7950x while also having a built in 7800x3D. Its the best of both worlds if you tune it properly in the UEFI. 7950x is peak efficient at a 105W, 14900k just simply isn't. TDP locking a 14900k to 150W seems to be its sweat spot, but at a higher performance loss.

Ryzen 7950x3D Direct Die NH-D15, CCD1 disabled

RTX 4090 @133%/+230/+500

Builder/Enthusiast/Overclocker since 2012  //  Professional IT since 2017

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10 hours ago, GreenLeaf said:

is it? or the 14900 k is a better value?

You don't give prices of each, so it is impossible to say. Is it a good chip? Sure.

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