M1 Mac mini overtakes entire Japanese desktop market in less than 2 weeks

[Jet_ski]

Summary

In just under 2 weeks since launch, the M1 powered Mac mini has catapulted Apple to the top rank in the desktop market in Japan by a whopping 14.4%, according to market data by BCN Retail.

 

Data between August and November 3rd, a little more than a week prior to the launch of the M1 Mac mini shows Apple at around 15% share in the desktop market, behind Lenovo Japan. However, following the launch of the new Mac mini on November 17th, Apple charged forward to a whopping 27.1% market share, a 14.4% increase from just the start of the month.

 

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Following the launch of the new Mac mini on November 17th, Apple charged forward to a whopping 27.1% market share in Japan, a 14.4% increase from just the start of the month.

 

My thoughts

I can’t say I’m surprised but wow. Unless Japan’s desktop market share is somehow a funny classification, Apple looks like they are about to do to the PC market what they did to the smartphone market.

 

If Apple computers gain more market share, we will see more game development for the platform within a couple of years.

 

Sources

https://appleterm.com/2020/11/30/m1-mac-mini-desktop-market-share-japan/

https://www.bcnretail.com/research/detail/20201129_201698.html

[Teddy07]

oh wow. People in Japan must be pretty rich.

[Jet_ski]

Just now, Teddy07 said:

oh wow. People in Japan must be pretty rich.

Mac mini is like $700 though.

[Aereldor]

It's great value. Really hoping to pick one up refurbished for $500ish next year.

[WereCat]

5 minutes ago, Teddy07 said:

oh wow. People in Japan must be pretty rich.

Not really, their living space is usually quite small and this kind of device is perfect for a casual home user. 

5 minutes ago, Jet_ski said:

Mac mini is like $700 though.

tech tends to be a lot more expensive in Japan 

[bruhsfx2]

39 minutes ago, WereCat said:

Not really, their living space is usually quite small and this kind of device is perfect for a casual home user. 

tech tends to be a lot more expensive in Japan 

With 10% tax, base model Mac mini totaled at USD 766 (JPY 80,080) I'd say that's not "a lot more expensive". 

[TetraSky]

If I didn't play games (which really, I barely do anyway these days, still waiting on being able to snag a GPU), I would certainly be tempted by the mac mini as well. So it's no surprise to me.

It's a neat little machine that can handle most/all of your daily needs all while being very low on the power consumption.

 

Disclaimer : I am 100% saying this because I have a vested interest for Apple's stock to rise *cries at $128 average*

[Techstorm970]

Although optimization and app support appears to be in beta right now, I think Apple hit a grand slam with the M1 and M1X.  What a kickass piece of ARM silicon!

[Orangeator]

6 minutes ago, Techstorm970 said:

Although optimization and app support appears to be in beta right now, I think Apple hit a grand slam with the M1 and M1X.  What a kickass piece of ARM silicon!

It is awesome, I am much more excited to see what Apple puts in their Mac Pro, 12 high performance cores?

[WereCat]

1 hour ago, bruhsfx2 said:

With 10% tax, base model Mac mini totaled at USD 766 (JPY 80,080) I'd say that's not "a lot more expensive". 

I've been in Japan and most of the HW was about 30%-50% more expensive. 

At the time the 1060 6GB was about 330€ but well over 400€ in Japan for example. 

Not sure if that applies to every tech but for the most part, everything I saw was quite a bit more expensive. 

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

3 minutes ago, WereCat said:

I've been in Japan and most of the HW was about 50% more expensive. 

At the time the 1060 6GB was about 330€ but well over 400€ in Japan for example. 

Not sure if that applies to every tech but for the most part, everything I saw was quite a bit more expensive. 

Directly from Apple.com/jp:

 

Spoiler

 

Ouch the Intel based Mac Mini... I guess it has a PCIe SSD going for it though?... /s

 

[Spindel]

Interesting

 

I wonder how many M1 systems Apple will sell in 2020. Just to put in proportion to the 20 million systems Apple sell anually (if memory serves me right)

[Tika]

1 hour ago, TetraSky said:

I am 100% saying this because I have a vested interest for Apple's stock to rise *cries at $128 average*

I feel this.

[Arika]

Not surprising at all. 

[whm1974]

2 hours ago, Spindel said:

Interesting

 

I wonder how many M1 systems Apple will sell in 2020. Just to put in proportion to the 20 million systems Apple sell anually (if memory serves me right)

Well given Japans Population Density and small apartment sizes, I am hardly surprised that Mini-PCs and AIO Systems dominate the Computer Market. Apple seems to do well in the Area of the World.

[Taf the Ghost]

Japan isn't a big PC market, but it is a big Apple market. This isn't too surprising. Also, "new hotness".

[DrMacintosh]

I love the Mac Mini. If I weren’t a gamer I probably would have gotten an Intel Mac Mini. However, this M1 Mac Mini isn’t a machine for me. I’m just not the right market for it. I like having Windows compatibility as an option. That also means that future Apple Silicon MacBook Pros are probably not on the table for my future laptop. Hopefully my 2020 13” lasts me a long time. 

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

3 hours ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Japan isn't a big PC market, but it is a big Apple market. This isn't too surprising. Also, "new hotness".

Which would probably explain why their own brands like Fujitsu, Toshiba, Vaio, Panasonic, NEC etc. have been struggling for the better part of this decade. Which is a shame since they make some pretty high quality machines and...interesting innovations. 

 

The same story goes for the Xperia line of mobile phones sadly. 

 

[captain_to_fire]

6 hours ago, Orangeator said:

It is awesome, I am much more excited to see what Apple puts in their Mac Pro, 12 high performance cores?

Considering that ARM chips for servers now have 80-128 cores, I wouldn’t be surprised if Apple will ship something like 64c for a base Mac Pro and 128c for the top model. If Apple wants they can even bring back Xserve.

[captain_to_fire]

12 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

I love the Mac Mini. If I weren’t a gamer I probably would have gotten an Intel Mac Mini. However, this M1 Mac Mini isn’t a machine for me. I’m just not the right market for it. I like having Windows compatibility as an option. That also means that future Apple Silicon MacBook Pros are probably not on the table for my future laptop. Hopefully my 2020 13” lasts me a long time. 

You can hope that WoA will soon have more developers so that Apple can bring back Bootcamp. Until then, WoA is still pretty much a flop.

[leadeater]

8 minutes ago, like_ooh_ahh said:

You can hope that WoA will soon have more developers so that Apple can bring back Bootcamp. Until then, WoA is still pretty much a flop.

I'm thinking that now that Apple/M1 has the included x86 memory semantics Microsoft may also ask for the same in a custom chip for their devices, never a bad thing to copy a good idea 

 

Well, never used loosely here.

 

Interesting times ahead.

[captain_to_fire]

6 minutes ago, leadeater said:

never a bad thing to copy a good idea 

This reminds me...

And yet this is the same Apple who has been shameless about copying

 

8 minutes ago, leadeater said:

'm thinking that now that Apple/M1 has the included x86 memory semantics Microsoft may also ask for the same in a custom chip for their devices

Are you refferring about the LPDDR4X memory inside the M1? I think ARM chips from the likes of Qualcomm already use the unified memory.

 

 

I'm not aware of any Intel or AMD chip with a built in memory module. Even Atom chips doesn't seem to have a built in memory.

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

25 minutes ago, like_ooh_ahh said:

This reminds me...

And yet this is the same Apple who has been shameless about copying

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But you know, underneath it all, it's still Windows. 

 

[leadeater]

31 minutes ago, like_ooh_ahh said:

Are you refferring about the LPDDR4X memory inside the M1? I think ARM chips from the likes of Qualcomm already use the unified memory.

The M1 supports both native ARM and x86 memory calls so complete real time translation is not required for x86 applications, that's the part that makes Apple/Rossetta 2/M1 so much better. It's actually in hardware in the memory controller, Qualcomm doesn't have it.

 

At the timestamp that matters.

[captain_to_fire]

6 minutes ago, leadeater said:

that's the part that makes Apple/Rossetta 2/M1 so much better. It's actually in hardware in the memory controller, Qualcomm doesn't have it.

 

Microsoft must be scrambling right now. They probably have learned their lesson to not underestimate Apple when releasing a successful product line (iPhone, iPad and AS). Windows Phone flopped. Windows 8/10 as a tablet OS is a hit or miss and WinRT/WoA crashed and burned.