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ATTENTION: there is a covid 19 F@H event happening, you can find it HERE.

 

this is a good opportunity to help with research!

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19 minutes ago, PurplDrank said:

I thought rats is where Coronavirus came from? Eating rats is a cultural delicacy in China I thought? 

No.

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3 minutes ago, Deli said:

No.

At the moment people are spreading rumors.  First it was bats then it was snakes and a few people said it's rats.  To be honest we don't know what kind animal is spreading the infection.  I wish this stupid virus would just die off in the spring or even summer.

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2 minutes ago, CalintzJerevinan said:

At the moment people are spreading rumors.  First it was bats then it was snakes and a few people said it's rats.  To be honest we don't know what kind animal is spreading the infection.  I wish this stupid virus would just die off in the spring or even summer.

What we do know for sure is that its an animal. Most viruses and diseases come from animals, and obviously that animal came from china. 

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I am getting sick and tired of the people.  Stupid people panic buying everything making life harder for the rest of us.  Then stupid people making normal things into conspiracies,  I'm sorry but the main reason pathology centers have signs up saying they can;t do covid19 tests is because they don;t have time for every paranoid tom dick and harry demanding they be tested.  There are real sick people out there that need blood tests done regularly must take precedence over paranoid people that aren't displaying symptoms of anything serious.

 

 

It's not a grand conspiracy, the government has to try and control all these paranoid gits causing problems and manage the real outbreak at the same time. 

Grammar and spelling is not indicative of intelligence/knowledge.  Not having the same opinion does not always mean lack of understanding.  

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14 hours ago, FakeCIA said:

Toilet paper ran out here.

 

I probably should have picked some of that up last time I was at the store. I guess, worst case scenario, I'll buy paper towels and a lot of drain clog remover and just YOLO it. Press F for my plumbing, ya'll.

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13 minutes ago, atxcyclist said:

I probably should have picked some of that up last time I was at the store. I guess, worst case scenario, I'll buy paper towels and a lot of drain clog remover and just YOLO it. Press F for my plumbing, ya'll.

F for the resulting flooding. In all seriousness though, I think that the absolute panic I've been seeing isn't necessary. Yes, it's bad, but it's not the end of the world. Besides, it's not the end til I say it is.

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Just now, FakeCIA said:

F for the resulting flooding. In all seriousness though, I think that the absolute panic I've been seeing isn't necessary. Yes, it's bad, but it's not the end of the world.

Amazon still has some toilet paper at least. I'll buy a few rolls and throw the package in a closet. If it comes back in stock, no real problem having a little extra around just won't need to buy next store trip.

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13 minutes ago, atxcyclist said:

Amazon still has some toilet paper at least. I'll buy a few rolls and throw the package in a closet.

Be at home for the delivery... Otherwise it will magically disappear from your porch as it became a much in-demand product ?

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Be at home for the delivery... Otherwise it will magically disappear from your porch as it became a much in-demand product ?

True, though catching someone on my door camera stealing toilet paper would make for some good laughs.

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I heard they would announce the new RTX 3000 series in March. Will it be postponed due to the virus?

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48 minutes ago, Gamer Schnitzel said:

I heard they would announce the new RTX 3000 series in March. Will it be postponed due to the virus?

No, the card is still on schedule, with them hoping more users will ‘just buy it’, when they show how the Coronavirus will look like with ray tracing. 

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6 hours ago, Cora_Lie said:

Be at home for the delivery... Otherwise it will magically disappear from your porch as it became a much in-demand product ?

Then I guess there will be some demand for something like an Amazon PPP (Paranoid Pandemic Prepper) subscription that makes sure all items (including sanitary items) will be exclusively shipped in armored vans and only delivered to the intended recipient whose identity will be checked via mobile TAN and retina scan. /s

Honestly, I don't think any form of panic is warranted or helpful. 

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We are all going to die!

One day or another.

I edit my posts more often than not

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WASHINGTON — The American Israel Public Affairs Committee told conference attendees, some of whom include lawmakers, that at least two conference-goers have tested positive for coronavirus.


Attendees and speakers at the conference included Vice President Mike Pence, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., former 2020 Democratic candidate Mike Bloomberg, former candidate Sen. Cory Booker, D-N.J., and several other lawmakers on both sides of the political aisle.


The group's website says that more than about 18,000 people attend its conference from across the country, and that two-thirds of Congress participate.


 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/03/06/coronavirus-aipac-tells-lawmakers-participants-two-attendees-have-covid-19/4979822002/

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I guess everyone will end like Wuhan now.

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4 hours ago, greenhorn said:

Then I guess there will be some demand for something like an Amazon PPP (Paranoid Pandemic Prepper) subscription that makes sure all items (including sanitary items) will be exclusively shipped in armored vans and only delivered to the intended recipient whose identity will be checked via mobile TAN and retina scan. /s

Honestly, I don't think any form of panic is warranted or helpful. 

It was a pun because of the amount of deliveries/parcels/packages stolen from the porches in the US.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/02/nyregion/online-shopping-package-theft.html

 

 

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https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200306/power-of-hand-washing-to-prevent-coronavirus

 

Even regular hand soap can kill the Corona Virus

 

 

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Coronaviruses, like this year’s version that has left 100,000 worldwide infected with COVID-19, are encased in a lipid envelope -- basically, a layer of fat. Soap can break that fat apart and make the virus unable to infect you.

The second thing soap does is mechanical. It makes skin slippery so that with enough rubbing, we can pry germs off and rinse them away.

Sounds pretty simple, but the vast majority of people still don’t do it right.

A 2013 study had trained observers discreetly watch more than 3,700 people wash their hands. It found that only about 5% of them followed all the rules. About one in four people just wet their hands without using soap -- a move hygiene researchers call the “splash and dash.” About one in 10 didn’t wash at all after a trip to the restroom. The most common shortcoming for most people was time. Only 5% spent more than 15 seconds washing, rubbing, and rinsing their hands.

Scott says that’s not good enough if you’re trying to keep from getting sick.

With a new virus on the loose, the stakes are higher now. It’s time to bring your technique up to speed.

How? Well, first turn on the water. It doesn’t matter if it’s hot or cold.

“We’ve done research on water temperature, and what we’ve discovered is that water temperature doesn’t really matter in terms of effectiveness,” says Donald Schaffner, PhD, who studies predictive food microbiology, hand-washing, and cross-contamination at Rutgers University in New Brunswick, NJ.

Second, lather up. The soap helps germs slip off your skin as you rub your hands together.

If you’re in control of the soap you’re using, you may want to pick a liquid or gel over foaming pump soap. A 2017 study that compared liquid and foam soaps from the same brand found that washing with foam didn’t significantly reduce bacteria on the hands of people who were in the study, while washing with a liquid soap did.

The study was small and the first of its kind. Generally, scientists like to see research results repeated before they are accepted as fact. Study participants only washed for 6 seconds. Sadly, that’s about the average time most of us spend washing our hands -- but it’s less than the 20 seconds the CDC recommends.

Still, study researchers think their results make sense. Because foam washes off more quickly than gel soap, users are more likely to splash and dash after a dollop of foam.

“People tend to wash their hands for a shorter duration with the foam soap,” says Ozlem Equils, MD, president of an educational nonprofit called MiOra.

What about bar soap? Numerous studies have found that bacteria can stay on bar soap that stays wet because it gets used frequently. But studies that have looked to see whether that’s a problem show that the bacteria don’t seem to transfer to the next user. If your bar looks slimy, rinse it off under water before you lather your hands, and try to store it so it will dry out between uses.

 

If you’re in a public bathroom, and there’s no soap, just rubbing your hands together under the water does do some good. A 2011 study from researchers at the London School of Tropical Hygiene found that washing with water alone reduced bacteria on hands to about one-quarter of their prewash state. Washing with soap and water brought bacterial counts down to about 8% of where they were before washing.

The bottom line is work with what you have. Something is better than nothing.

How long should you scrub your hands? At least 20 seconds, according to the CDC. As you’ve probably heard, that’s the same amount of time it takes to sing “Happy Birthday to You” twice. If you’re tired of that one, Twitter has some great suggestions for others.

Pay attention to places on your hands you might not always think about.

Studies where people smother their hands with Glo Germ -- a product used to teach proper hand-washing that glows under a black light -- before they wash reveal the areas people tend to miss.

“Typically, spots people will miss will be the back of the hands, people will miss the lower palm. You might see some fluorescence around the fingernails and the nail bed area, where people typically don’t wash well,” Schaffner says.

And here’s something that’s good to know: Intention counts. Schaffner says his research has shown that the more people try to get better at hand-washing -- going for longer, scrubbing more thoroughly -- the less likely they are to spread contamination around a kitchen.

Finally, dry your hands.

“Paper towels actually have a beneficial effect beyond simply washing,” Schaffner says.

That’s right. Rubbing your hands with a paper towel removes even more germs than just washing alone. Dry hands are also less likely to spread contamination than wet hands.

How often do you need to wash? A lot. The CDC says to wash your hands:

  • Before, during, and after food prep
  • Before eating
  • Before and after tending to someone who’s sick
  • Before and after treating a cut or other wound
  • After going to the bathroom
  • After changing diapers or helping a child in the bathroom
  • After blowing your nose, coughing, or sneezing
  • After touching an animal, or touching pet food or pet waste
  • After handling pet food or pet treats
  • After touching garbage

If you can’t wash, reach for some hand sanitizer. Lipid membrane viruses like coronaviruses are killed by alcohol-based hand sanitizer, Scott says. Just make sure it’s at least 62% alcohol.

Make sure to use enough so that it covers all the surfaces on your hands. Rub that on until your hands feel dry, which should take about 20 seconds.

If you still have some skin left on your hands after all that washing, try to keep it clean. Avoid touching contaminated surfaces. Use a clean paper towel to open bathroom doors. Disinfect dirty surfaces that you use every day, like the touchscreen on your phone and your computer keyboard.

 

 

 

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I've been washing my hands 20 times a day now. Looks like it'll become a norm. Also shaking hands is a thing of the past.

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1 hour ago, Deli said:

I've been washing my hands 20 times a day now. Looks like it'll become a norm. Also shaking hands is a thing of the past.

My solution to the shaking hands problem is to just not have hands. It's worked for over 2 decades. 100% success rate.

 

 

 

 

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34 minutes ago, Deli said:

I've been washing my hands 20 times a day now. Looks like it'll become a norm. Also shaking hands is a thing of the past.

 

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3 hours ago, Deli said:

I've been washing my hands 20 times a day now. Looks like it'll become a norm. Also shaking hands is a thing of the past.

Have literal OCD, a positive for once.

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Now that the hand sanitizer and sanitizer wipes are out, hand soap is the next thing that is flying off the shelves. Lots of frustration in the air.

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