intel xe Intel Xe GPU release date, specs, and performance

[Multiversal]

The Intel Xe GPU represents Intel’s first foray into discrete graphics since the ill-fated Larrabee project many years ago. But let’s not dwell on the past, this is a bright new future for Intel, and potentially PC gamers too, as it means we’re going to have a genuine third player in the graphics market and that can only be a good thing. For us, at least.

• It looks likely that the initial Xe GPUs will largely be based on the building blocks put in place by the Ice Lake Gen11 graphics architecture. 
• It's expected to have 128 EU, 256 EU, and 512 EU parts for the entry, mid-range, and high-end markets.
• Not a lot is known about the potential performance of the new Intel graphics cards, but Gen11 GPUs with just 64 EUs are capable of decent 720p gaming. So with many times that figure, the Intel Xe could be genuinely competitive cards. If they clock high enough…
• Spanning entry-level, mid-range, and high-end, you’re looking at a spread of graphics card pricing potentially from $200 all the way up to $1,000… depending on actually how powerful that 512 EU card turns out to be.

OA - https://www.pcgamesn.com/intel/xe-gpu-release-date-specs-performance

[NunoLava1998]

God that looks fucking horrendous

[Gegger]

is that gpu supposed to be an angry kitten or something?

[GoldenLag]

27 minutes ago, D33P said:

Spanning entry-level, mid-range, and high-end, you’re looking at a spread of graphics card pricing potentially from $200 all the way up to $1,000… depending on actually how powerful that 512 EU card turns out to be.

OMG who knew a company would try to price their product appropriately?!? 

/s

also im mildly annoyed at the clickbait title as far as i can tell, no date was given........ it was speculation and confirmation from "sources"

[RejZoR]

I hope it'll be competitive. Graphics industry really needs more offerings. I miss the days when we had so much choice, ATi, NVIDIA, S3, 3dfx, SiS, Matrox, XGI... Sure some were mediocre at best, but at least they were trying and when it dropped down to 2 players only, whole thing became really dull and not really competitive. With 3, there will always be at least one nudging someone else. Opposed to 2 where it always drops into monopoly if someone is doing poorly. So, I'm looking forward to Intel entering the market as 3rd competitor. It'll be interesting and it might even happen we'll have AMD CPU and Intel graphics in our systems at some point. Which will be funny possibility

[AkatsukiKun]

1 hour ago, NunoLava1998 said:

God that looks fucking horrendous

Slap on an Arc reactor in the middle and some fans, but really have you seen Colorful's gpu?

[Fnige]

21 minutes ago, AkatsukiKun said:

god, would this actually make the thermals higher

[Guest]

I thought WCCFTech was bad, but this isn't even a rumour at this point

[cafe]

1 hour ago, GoldenLag said:

OMG who knew a company would try to price their product appropriately?!? 

/s

also im mildly annoyed at the clickbait title as far as i can tell, no date was given........ it was speculation and confirmation from "sources"

imagine thinking $1000 at the highend is appropriate

[yian88]

14 minutes ago, floofer said:

I thought WCCFTech was bad, but this isn't even a rumour at this point

Oh please stop the old mentality "WCCFTech is soo bad", they were bad many years ago posting some fake news to gain audience but later they moved towards only news and rumours, its the people here who are flawed and taking rumours of wccftech and turning them into news then posting source link to wccftech and give them a bad name when in fact OP is dumb.

At this point there should be a sub in this forum for [Rumour News] and this sub for real news with official source.

 

[MeatFeastMan]

Just to add onto this..

 

https://www.techradar.com/news/intel-xe-multi-gpu-support-could-be-a-secret-weapon-against-amd-and-nvidia

 

The rumors are that if you have an Intel CPU with an integrated gpu and a full discrete Intel GPU, the Intel GPU can join forces with the integrated gpu for more performance. If that's true then wow. That's a very nice feature.

[porina]

5 minutes ago, MeatFeastMan said:

The rumors are that if you have an Intel CPU with an integrated gpu and a full discrete Intel GPU, the Intel GPU can join forces with the integrated gpu for more performance. If that's true then wow. That's a very nice feature.

I'd be cautious about this one. Assuming they get it to work, the integrated GPU is often much slower so the benefit will not be so great. Also, given the pains with SLI and crossfire, can Intel really crack this?

 

What is possibly more realistic is that this can apply more to compute uses than gaming, where splitting work to different GPUs is more of a thing.

[Master Disaster]

27 minutes ago, MeatFeastMan said:

Just to add onto this..

 

https://www.techradar.com/news/intel-xe-multi-gpu-support-could-be-a-secret-weapon-against-amd-and-nvidia

 

The rumors are that if you have an Intel CPU with an integrated gpu and a full discrete Intel GPU, the Intel GPU can join forces with the integrated gpu for more performance. If that's true then wow. That's a very nice feature.

It's probably nothing more than what Intel and Nvidia already do. Basically it uses the onboard one most of the time (less power) then the dedicated card kicks in when you run a game. It barely works and most of the time just causes problems.

 

There's no benefit to one high powered card trying to pair with one low powered card. If anything that would only slow down the faster card quite considerably.

[TechyBen]

2 hours ago, MeatFeastMan said:

Just to add onto this..

 

https://www.techradar.com/news/intel-xe-multi-gpu-support-could-be-a-secret-weapon-against-amd-and-nvidia

 

The rumors are that if you have an Intel CPU with an integrated gpu and a full discrete Intel GPU, the Intel GPU can join forces with the integrated gpu for more performance. If that's true then wow. That's a very nice feature.

IIRC AMD had it for a while. As with all SLI... was pants (scaling) and not often worth the price.

[LAwLz]

Contrary to popular beliefs, Intel are actually pretty good when it comes to GPU drivers. They regularly scored better than AMD and ARM for OpenGL compliance for example, back when the Dolphin Emulator team did their hall of fame and hall of shame.

 

And their GPU architecture is pretty good these days.

If we assume linear scaling between 64 found in their iGPUs and 512 execution units of the big discrete GPU then the discrete one should be 8 times as fast. 

 

The i7-1065 with G7 graphics scores 854 in Time Spy. 854 * 8 = 6832.

That's comparable to the GTX 1080 (6886). Throw on some higher clock speed and the much faster VRAM (compared to regular RAM used in the G7 test), and the results should be really good. 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, MeatFeastMan said:

The rumors are that if you have an Intel CPU with an integrated gpu and a full discrete Intel GPU, the Intel GPU can join forces with the integrated gpu for more performance. If that's true then wow. That's a very nice feature.

1 hour ago, porina said:

I'd be cautious about this one. Assuming they get it to work, the integrated GPU is often much slower so the benefit will not be so great. Also, given the pains with SLI and crossfire, can Intel really crack this?

1 hour ago, Master Disaster said:

There's no benefit to one high powered card trying to pair with one low powered card. If anything that would only slow down the faster card quite considerably.

AMD used to do the same and they called it "Hybrid CrossfireX"

It worked and did increase performance a bit, but it wasn't worth the hassle. Back then AMD had massive issues with micro-stuttering when using CrossFire, and the extra GPU horsepower from the onboard was not that much.

So you got like a few FPS more in games, but at the cost of micro-stuttering and general compatibility issues.

 

Intel's solution might work better, but yeah... If we assume linear scaling (which it won't be) then adding like 48 or 64 more execution units to 512 will only be a ~10% increase. Couple that with less than ideal scaling, lower clock speeds on the iGPU, overhead from the memory exchange, and so on and you might end up with like a 5% performance increase, in best case scenarios.

 

 

[Tonberry]

5 hours ago, D33P said:

all the way up to $1,000

Wat?!

Not again.. GPU pricing is fk'ed up for too long already..

[Tonberry]

10 minutes ago, yaboistar said:

high end gpu's have high end price tags. 1k gpu's have existed for a long time now, as the very top tier prosumer segment before the actual professional grade gpu's.

Im not even thinking of prosumer grade GPUs, but the consumer ones which already in range closer to 1k $, more or less but closer to it.

[AlTech]

3 hours ago, RelativeMono said:

imagine thinking $1000 at the highend is appropriate

I have the opposite problem: I think the price range proposed is wayyyy too high.

 

To me: the low end options need to cost $100-150 to compete with the RX 5500 series. Or closer to $80-100 if it can’t actually compete on performance.

 

For what would be traditionally midrange I think $200-250 is fine. Anything more is just price gouging.

 

For what would traditionally be high end (but is actually real midrange) $350-400 is more acceptable
 

For actual high end $600-800 is acceptable I guess although I still don’t like the idea of “high end” GPUs costing $699 or more.

 

If intel launches a $1000 GPU then I’m gonna boycott Intel Xe GPUs. There is no reason a consumer $1000 GPU should exist. They are insult to the intelligence of gamers.

[suits]

I mean it's RGB they must've made something good.

[porina]

8 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

If intel launches a $1000 GPU then I’m gonna boycott Intel Xe GPUs. There is no reason a consumer $1000 GPU should exist. They are insult to the intelligence of gamers.

They will have to be competitive. nvidia can still get away with a premium over AMD, but let's say if an Intel GPU was at $1000 but comparable in performance to a new AMD GPU at $1000, you would still rule out Intel? What was the Radeon VII? Around $700 wasn't it? Wont take much of an uplift in pricing to hit 4 figures. Not saying they will, just don't rule it out.

[cafe]

16 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

I have the opposite problem: I think the price range proposed is wayyyy too high.

 

To me: the low end options need to cost $100-150 to compete with the RX 5500 series. Or closer to $80-100 if it can’t actually compete on performance.

 

For what would be traditionally midrange I think $200-250 is fine. Anything more is just price gouging.

 

For what would traditionally be high end (but is actually real midrange) $350-400 is more acceptable
 

For actual high end $600-800 is acceptable I guess although I still don’t like the idea of “high end” GPUs costing $699 or more.

 

If intel launches a $1000 GPU then I’m gonna boycott Intel Xe GPUs. There is no reason a consumer $1000 GPU should exist. They are insult to the intelligence of gamers.

no im fine with buying a 2080 ti, like im good with money

i just think its a shit pricepoint and its actually stealing more than being a fair price.

if its better than the 2080 ti ill buy it forsure though, I hate both amd and nvidia these days

[NumLock21]

5 hours ago, NunoLava1998 said:

God that looks fucking horrendous

That's just a render from some person on the internet, it is not the official card. The pic has been floating since intel talked about doing discrete graphics. That other one looking like an intel pcie nvme ssd, is also unofficial render.

 

I'm hoping their cards look like their pcie xeon phi

[SpaceGhostC2C]

4 hours ago, AkatsukiKun said:

Slap on an Arc reactor in the middle and some fans, but really have you seen Colorful's gpu?

Spoiler

 

Fantastic. That should be in every Taichi motherboard.

 

 

3 hours ago, MeatFeastMan said:

The rumors are that if you have an Intel CPU with an integrated gpu and a full discrete Intel GPU, the Intel GPU can join forces with the integrated gpu for more performance. If that's true then wow. That's a very nice feature.

That's just AMD's "Dual Graphics" all over again (I guess it was Raja's idea ). I guess that would mean there's a very low end GPU in the stack, as those are the ones  that may make sense pairing.

[S w a t s o n]

6 hours ago, Gegger said:

is that gpu supposed to be an angry kitten or something?

Already a thing, maybe not "angry"

Spoiler

Also this article is basically rumor status with some known information thrown in. I wouldnt predict the release date of a gpu based on a license plate tag. At least here in Canada, those are based on your birthday.

 

[TVwazhere]

@D33P

 

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