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Ryzen Allegedly Matching Intel in 3DMark FS Physics

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Keep taking your clothes off my friends, because the fire is only burning greater on this hype train. Let's take a look at these benches: 

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Intel scores borrowed from Tom's Hardware, AMD scores borrowed from the Futuremark database

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If you are wondering why there is a disparity between the Intel scores on both charts, the ones in the first chart are taken from Tom's Hardware, and the ones in the second, as you can see are from Futuremark. The Ryzen ones from Futuremark database have been placed into the top (Tom's hardware Intel scores) chart for comparison. As you can see, apparently the 1700X at stock outperforms a stock 5960X and when overclocked, it can apparently be at the top of the kingdom. Now keep in mind, this is a LEAK and as always we need to wait for trustworthy benchmarks. 

 

In addition, this is literally only 3DMark FS Physics Score benchmarks and is not necessarily representative of Ryzen's performance in other applications, though it is a good indicator. I'm not getting too hyped just yet, but it looks like Ryzen will be pretty decent. I really hope AMD does well, not just for their own sake, but for the sake of us, the boys, the girls, the people that are the tech community. 
 

On a side note, I really see the 1600X as something special if it performs like this across the board consistently. To get 6 comfy cores for the alleged price of $259 is pretty damn good. I reckon it'll be like the R9 290 of CPUs where everyone hypes up the bigger brother but in reality, the smaller sibling is the real kicker. Though in reality, all of these CPUs will be insane deals if they perform well and are priced at their leaked prices. 

 

Anyway I'll stop talking now lol and please remember, this must be taken with a grain of salt but it is what it is. 

 

EDIT: oh my I forgot my sources 

This is courtesty of VCZ via WCCFTech (grains of salt increase) 

http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-3dmark-benchmarks-leaked-faster-core-intels-i7-6950x/

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If this flops AMD will never come back at all.

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3 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

If this flops AMD will never come back at all.

They really need to deliver something decent man, I'm hoping so badly they dont screw this up hahahahahaha

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3 minutes ago, Kobz360 said:

They really need to deliver something decent man, I'm hoping so badly they dont screw this up hahahahahaha

Well any improvement and that 95W TDP looks juicy. Unless it's 95W at base clock and 160W at turbo.

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2 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

Well any improvement and that 95W TDP looks juicy. Unless it's 95W at base clock and 160W at turbo.

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2 minutes ago, tp95112 said:

Is it me or is single threaded performance kinda low

Something seems if about that chart. From 3.2 -4.0 and still the same results -_-

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I want Ryzen to deliever, I hope Vega will too, just for the choice of options point of view.

 

 

Neither Intel nor Nvidia can afford AMD to vanish. 

Ryzen and Vega has to deliever, and Intel/Nvidia knows this too.

 

if AMD falls, both Intel and Nvidia can end up being forced to split, due to too high market share / monopoly

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2 minutes ago, cj09beira said:

Something seems if about that chart. From 3.2 -4.0 and still the same results -_-

That is 4/8 CPU (the R5 1300) vs an 8/16. There is a difference in per-core results between the OC'd and non-OC'd 1700X though. 

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3 minutes ago, JanFrode said:

I want Ryzen to deliever, I hope Vega will too, just for the choice of options point of view.

 

 

Neither Intel nor Nvidia can afford AMD to vanish. 

Ryzen and Vega has to deliever, and Intel/Nvidia knows this too.

 

if AMD falls, both Intel and Nvidia can end up being forced to split, due to too high market share / monopoly

Lets hope cpu buyers dont by intel and forget to check for competitors

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2 minutes ago, Kobz360 said:

That is 4/8 CPU (the R5 1300) vs an 8/16. There is a difference in per-core results between the OC'd and non-OC'd 1700X though. 

Btw in some cases ryzen will be a bit slower just because it needs more cycles to do some instructions (avx) 

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16 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

If this flops AMD will never come back at all.

that will be a problem

if AMD does go down, due to how a company declares bankruptcy, every patent they have will be sold off,

meaning intel could buy the x64 architecture for themselves and monopolise the market

problem with a monopolised market, price, since it will be the only choice, most companies will jack the price WAY UP to make more money, and customers can't do anything because thats the only choice....

but if you read the competition law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Competition_law

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if you read further some countries outright don't allow a Monopoly there, meaning the company can't sell their product their

and in turn, other companies who buys the company products for their own products (e.g. Dell buying intel CPU's for their computers), can't sell their product because it contains a banned product

meaning the US, china and russia can't buy any unsold computers because they have intel CPU's in them

and many computers run on intel and many newer computers have a intel CPU in them

 

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Seems like Ryzen wins some and lose some. Generally it seems like a really strong CPU architecture. The only thing I kinda worry about is clockrate at this point. Games favour clockrate more than core count (above 4 cores at least). So going above 4Ghz or at least 4 would be desirable. Either way, I think it's safe to say AMD is competitive again, and is the price to performance king with Ryzen. Good on them, we need the competition *cough*1700$i7*cough*.

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3 minutes ago, Notional said:

we need the competition *cough*1700$i7*cough*.

EXACTLY!!!

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1 hour ago, JanFrode said:

I want Ryzen to deliever, I hope Vega will too, just for the choice of options point of view.

 

 

Neither Intel nor Nvidia can afford AMD to vanish. 

Ryzen and Vega has to deliever, and Intel/Nvidia knows this too.

 

if AMD falls, both Intel and Nvidia can end up being forced to split, due to too high market share / monopoly

I find that very annoying for Intel and Nvidia, depending on a crappy competitor like that (crappy as in Ryzen doesn't deliver). 

 

I think, if that happens, Intel won't allow that, they will try and help AMD in some way, which in the long run would be detrimental to AMD, being bail out like that. 

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I'd like to see single-threaded cinebench.  I'd love for it to leapfrog my laptop's 6700K at the same clock speed by at least as high of a percentage as my 6700K (4.0 GHz, 148 last run) beats an FX-8350 (96).

(Btw, my 6700K run was while other things were happening - there was about a 20-30% background usage at the time.  The FX-8350 score was, iirc, pulled from AnandTech.)

 

So, if the 6700K is, say, 60% better than the FX-8350 (both 4 GHz CPUs), I'd wish for Ryzen to be 60% better than the 6700K.

I don't expect that, though; more realistically I'd expect it to match my 4790K or 6700K in IPC.  With double the cores/threads, I'd like it to have double to multi-threaded score.

 

I'd also REALLY like to see greatly improved performance at the same time on future generations of the same socket, especially IPC.  I'd forgive a 1st-gen Ryzen's single-core only matching Haswell, if the last generation on AM4 socket triples or quadruples the IPC compared to 1st gen. :)  Also more PCI-E slots, RAM, etc. would be nice, for the mobo to be usable longer.  I prefer replacing the mobo, case AND psu all at the same time, and not before the warranty on the PSU has expired.  I have a 2-year-old AX760 now, but I might let it go if I sell my 4790K platform, and upgrade to a PSU with a 10 year warranty.

 

(This was getting to be a bit long, but I decided to leave some stuff out.)

 

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1 hour ago, PianoPlayer88Key said:

I'd like to see single-threaded cinebench.  I'd love for it to leapfrog my laptop's 6700K at the same clock speed by at least as high of a percentage as my 6700K (4.0 GHz, 148 last run) beats an FX-8350 (96).

(Btw, my 6700K run was while other things were happening - there was about a 20-30% background usage at the time.  The FX-8350 score was, iirc, pulled from AnandTech.)

 

So, if the 6700K is, say, 60% better than the FX-8350 (both 4 GHz CPUs), I'd wish for Ryzen to be 60% better than the 6700K.

I don't expect that, though; more realistically I'd expect it to match my 4790K or 6700K in IPC.  With double the cores/threads, I'd like it to have double to multi-threaded score.

 

I'd also REALLY like to see greatly improved performance at the same time on future generations of the same socket, especially IPC.  I'd forgive a 1st-gen Ryzen's single-core only matching Haswell, if the last generation on AM4 socket triples or quadruples the IPC compared to 1st gen. :)  Also more PCI-E slots, RAM, etc. would be nice, for the mobo to be usable longer.  I prefer replacing the mobo, case AND psu all at the same time, and not before the warranty on the PSU has expired.  I have a 2-year-old AX760 now, but I might let it go if I sell my 4790K platform, and upgrade to a PSU with a 10 year warranty.

 

(This was getting to be a bit long, but I decided to leave some stuff out.)

 

It wont beat your 6700k in single core performance.

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5 minutes ago, RagnarokDel said:

It wont beat your 6700k in single core performance.

I don't expect it to, but at least matching it, or my 4790K, at the same clock speed, would be nice. :)

 

I wasn't even planning to upgrade my 4790K until like 2022 (when the warranty on my PSU expires), but that was based on the trend over the past several years of very little improvements in performance vs price.

 

Basically I prefer a large jump in performance when I upgrade.  For example,

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if I still was running like a Q6600, Phenom X4 9850, Q9400, i7-920, Phenom II X4 965, i7-875K, or i5-2500K, then Ryzen would seem about the right time to upgrade, especially from the older CPUs.

My previous system's CPU, before the 4790K, was a dual core Athlon 64 X2 4000+.  That system died around March 2012, and had I not been practically broke then, I would have built something around the 2500K or 2600K.  (Instead, by the time I was able to afford something, it was the 4790K, and the situation ended up working out so I was able to triple or quadruple my original intended budget for the entire build.  A significant chunk went into storage, the GPU (1060 3GB) came almost 2 years later.)

 

 

But if, say, an R7-1700 or R7-1700X OC'd to 4 GHz has close to double the performance of my 4790K at a similar price, especially in video encoding & other tasks, I'd jump, even though it would only have been 2 years and 2 months.

For now, my 4790K only gets ~5fps encoding H.264 4K video.  I'd really like 30fps, but even 10fps would be an improvement.

 

As for the 6700K, that's in my laptop (yes, it has an LGA1151 CPU socket), which I was (and still am) planning to keep longer than my original longevity plan for the desktop.

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(I started with the i3-6100, then jumped on the 6700K when it went on sale last Black Friday.)

 

If a 6c/12t or 8c/16t 4+ GHz 95- W Coffee Lake / Cannonlake / Ice Lake i7-K is made available for LGA1151 / Z170, I might upgrade again, once it's on Black Friday MicroCenter sale for <$270, and the next non-compatible generation is released.  That's assuming there's a 50-100% or so performance improvement over my 6700K.

 

If I was to, for example, build a Ryzen system (or Skylake-X if Intel drops the prices to match Ryzen at the same performance), I'd hope the lifecycle and in-place upgrades would be something like...

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2017 - initial build: 8c/16t, OC'able to 4+ GHz, $300-400 CPU (CB R15: ~160-180 1 thread, ~1500-1800 all); tower case with plenty of 3.5" HDD bays (minimum 8, prefer 12+) and good radiator support, mobo with 5, 6, or 7x PCI-E x16 slots, 8 DIMM slots (or supporting 128-256GB RAM), 2 or more M.2 B+M slots around $200-300; a 10-year-warranty power supply with plenty of room for expandability, and a few other things.

 

2021 (or final year of compatibility with same socket/chipset) - upgrade CPU, for ~$300, to one that does 300+ in single-thread CB R15, 3000-4000+ in multi-thread.

 

Along the way, as needed - add PCI Express expansion cards to add features the board didn't originally have.  (For example, if I'd had a still living older system, I would have added USB 3.0, 3.1 type C, M.2 / NVMe, extra SATA ports as needed, 10Gb network, etc, instead of replacing the motherboard.)

 

~2025-2027 or so - get a ~2021-vintage CPU off ebay for like $100 that was originally ~$3000-5000; similar single-threaded score, 2-3x multi-threaded score.

 

~2032-2035 or so, or when mobo / PSU dies, or when, say, DDR6/7 and PCI-E 6/7 (or whatever is new then) are released - build a new system, giving the old one away or sending it to the landfill.  (I doubt that it'd sell for much by then.)

 

Two ways I'd be okay with shortening the length of time to hang onto, for example, the motherboard, would be ..

 

1 - making it much easier to swap out the motherboard without having to remove & reinstall other components (or at least very minimal, like CPU & RAM), and

2 - having much faster improvements over time in price vs performance, basically catching up to or surpassing the rapid improvements seen in the 1980s and 1990s.

 

For example,

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my dad bought a 286-10 w/mobo, 640k RAM, 1.2MB floppy & 101-key keyboard for $940 in January 1989.

 

Later, he bought a 486 VLB motherboard w/128K Cache for $79 in October 1994, I think 4MB RAM (invoice says "1x36-70") for $141 in August 1995, and a 486DX4-120 for $102 in October 1995.  Total price for the 3 was $322.

 

(Idk why there was a 1-year spread from buying the mobo to buying the CPU, but that's what the invoices say.)

 

 

I'd love for Intel and AMD to catch up to where they would have been if that price/performance improvement per year had not slowed down, especially in single-threaded performance. :)  (Or at least come up with a way so that existing software wouldn't have to be rewritten/compiled to support more extensive multi-threading.)

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4 hours ago, Notional said:

Seems like Ryzen wins some and lose some. Generally it seems like a really strong CPU architecture. The only thing I kinda worry about is clockrate at this point. Games favour clockrate more than core count (above 4 cores at least). So going above 4Ghz or at least 4 would be desirable. Either way, I think it's safe to say AMD is competitive again, and is the price to performance king with Ryzen. Good on them, we need the competition *cough*1700$i7*cough*.

i am pretty sure that ryzen will at least be decent and no doubt AMD is gonna be making profits this year. But what matters now is that they keep iterating their CPU designs every 1-2 years and keep giving incremental 10-15% improvements. We already know that the next release Zen zen+ has been in the works for some time so that's a good start. They cannot afford to do what they did last time where they released piledriver fx-8350 and then left us hanging for years and years on the enthusiast and performance segments. Admittedly maybe they did that cause they thought the architecture was a dead end... But nobody wants to see that happen again. Because intel will keep iterating... Even if it's small gains.

 

Basically what I am saying is that 1st gen ryzen needs to be the start of something. That is more important than whether the 1st gen matches 6900k or is 5% slower.

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1 hour ago, Humbug said:

i am pretty sure that ryzen will at least be decent and no doubt AMD is gonna be making profits this year. But what matters now is that they keep iterating their CPU designs every 1-2 years and keep giving incremental 10-15% improvements. We already know that the next release Zen zen+ has been in the works for some time so that's a good start. They cannot afford to do what they did last time where they released piledriver fx-8350 and then left us hanging for years and years on the enthusiast and performance segments. Admittedly maybe they did that cause they thought the architecture was a dead end... But nobody wants to see that happen again. Because intel will keep iterating... Even if it's small gains.

 

Basically what I am saying is that 1st gen ryzen needs to be the start of something. That is more important than whether the 1st gen matches 6900k or is 5% slower.

I partly agree, but would really like to see larger improvements per unit of time.

 

As I said in my edited post above, my dad went from a 286-10 + mobo + 1MB RAM for $940 in 1989, to a 486 DX4-120 + mobo + 4MB RAM for $322 in 1995.  (The DX4-120 was $120, but the invoice from 1989 doesn't give the price of the 286-10 CPU by itself.  Per Wikipedia's MIPS page, a 286-12 was 1.28 MIPS, and a 486DX4-100 was 70 MIPS.

 

At any rate, that's basically a 78.75x (that's TIMES, not percent!; with estimated extrapolation for the actual clocks) increase in single-threaded performance, and a reduction in cost to about 1/3 or so, over about 6 to 7 years.

 

Yes, I know there's also RAM, GPU, storage & other speeds, but I still would like CPUs to "catch up" to where we would be if that rate had not slowed down.

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6 hours ago, JanFrode said:

Neither Intel nor Nvidia can afford AMD to vanish. 

Wrong, Nvidia would love for AMD to vanish as they wouldn't come under anti-trust because FTC would consider Intel competition for Nvidia as long as Intel keeps putting iGPUs on their CPUs.

 

Intel is the only one that'd get their butts plugged if AMD disappeared. They'd at the very least hurry to stop making iGPUs to take Nvidia down with them.

In case the moderators do not ban me as requested, this is a notice that I have left and am not coming back.

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