AMD’s Hawaii GPU to return with Radeon R9 300 series

[BiG StroOnZ]

First and foremost, Hawaii-based GPUs will not feature any kind of HBM implementation. The rebranding of Radeon R9 290 series will be limited to overclocking and (most importantly) the addition of 4GB memory.

 

Hawaii-based R300 cards are only slightly overclocked. The Hawaii XT model has 1050 MHz core clock and Hawaii PRO 1010 MHz. That’s a subtle increase, limited not by the silicon, but TDP. The memory clock however, will get more juice. The speed has been increased to effective 6 GHz (1500 MHz), which means Hawaii R9 300 cards will have 64 GB/s higher memory bandwidth than R9 290 series.

 

The Radeon 300 high-end segment will surely stand out from competition. Both Fiji and Hawaii models will have higher bandwidth than GM200 based TITAN-X and GTX 980 Ti. AMD is clearly targeting 4k+ resolutions with their next lineup.

 

 

 

 

Source: http://videocardz.com/55499/amds-hawaii-gpu-to-return-with-radeon-300-series

 

I find this an interesting article for a few reasons. One of those reasons is that Videocardz seems to not use the word 380X or 380 because they are apparently reserving those naming schemes for the OEM listed cards that we saw a few weeks ago (where the 380 was a 285 rebrand). Which I'm not sure if it should apply to the regular card lineup considering those were OEM cards. However, it does strike my interest because now they have me thinking what if the Hawaii Rebrands are actually the 390X and the 390 and Fiji XT (what has been purported to be the 390X) will actually be called an entirely different card altogether (like how NVIDIA has their Titan). Which I think is a great idea as far as I'm concerned for AMD, which definitely will differentiate themselves from their other cards. However, of course this begins to change speculation entirely. As far as the Hawaii rebrands go, I think it's a great idea that they are giving it 8GB of VRAM stock and increasing the memory clocks. I see huge gains on memory overclocks so I'm sure this will benefit performance. It's kind of sad that they cannot really increase the core clocks all that much without hindering TDP but maybe non-reference versions will take a stab at this instead. I'm sure with how efficient Maxwell cards are they can't really go crazy with the TDP even though actual enthusiasts rather have more raw power. But like I said, maybe if they are binned chips they are using, perhaps non-reference versions will offer 1150MHz core clocked variants.

[BiG StroOnZ]

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Went two pages back and tried a search. Link please.

[Raudi_]

To bad the memory controller is weak on the Hawaii GPU's

[TheAmazingCookieFromSquare]

I hope the 390/390X is not rebranded though

[MegaDave91]

AMD cannot invest as much time/money into R&D, therefore many will be re-badges of Hawaii. 

[GrimNeo]

Literally the 100th post about this....

Please post a link if this is a repost.

[minibois]

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Literally the 100th post about this....

At least have the decency to link what post is the original, instead of just saying it's a repost.

[BiG StroOnZ]

It was on like page 7

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/361703-oem-rebrands-amd-reveals-specs-for-360-370-and-380-cards/

 

At least have the decency to link what post is the original, instead of just saying it's a repost.

 

That's not the right article at all. This is not a repost. Those are talking about the OEM rebrands.

 

This article just came out yesterday, that post is from May 6th. 

 

You can even look at the core clocks and specs in that article, they are nothing like these specs. 

[minibois]

That's not the right article at all. This is not a repost. Those are talking about the OEM rebrands.

Hmm, I guess.

[BiG StroOnZ]

Hmm, I guess.

 

The 380 in that article is supposed to be a Tonga rebrand (the 285) this is talking about Hawaii rebrands. Not I guess.

 

Fixed the title so no more people who do not read get confused anymore... ugh.

[silberdrachi]

Almost feels like they need to shift the numbers down to make room

[BiG StroOnZ]

Almost feels like they need to shift the numbers down to make room

 

Exactly, I feel like AMD are going to make their version of the Titan with Fiji XT (the watercooled, 8GB HBM, card that has been called the 390X). Then the 390X and 390 will be Hawaii rebrands. This speculation hasn't really existed up until now with this article.

[CoolaxGaming]

I really hate how people scream "Repost" or 100th repost when they dont even have a link

God damnit LTT, at least read the article and link it before calling it a repost....

 

 

OT:

I really hope that AMD makes a 4gb version of the 380x.

Then I can call my 290x as fast a 380x

[BiG StroOnZ]

I really hope that AMD makes a 4gb version of the 380x.

Then I can call my 290x as fast a 380x

 

Well this is where the interesting part comes.

 

What the hell is going to be the 380X?

 

A full fledged Tonga rebrand like we see listed on AMD's website for OEM manufactures? Or is the retail version going to be a Hawaii rebrand?

 

Seems kind of difficult to make your OEM card a Tonga rebrand then your retail card a Hawaii rebrand (at least because of confusion).

 

So what does that leave you with?

 

390X and 390 are Hawaii Rebrands, then the Fiji XT card that everybody has been calling the 390X is actually called "Colossus" (made that up but you get the point) but to obviously compete with NVIDIA's Titan.

[Glenwing]

If I recall correctly, AMD has already stated that all their future GPUs would support FreeSync, which means unless I'm missing something, all the GCN 1.0 rebrands on that chart are wrong. Not sure how much I trust this source

As always, ignore the rumors... We'll see what happens in a few weeks.

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

Might grab myself some cheaper 8GB 380x for Skyrim  :lol:

[Samfisher]

If I recall correctly, AMD has already stated that all their future GPUs would support FreeSync, which means unless I'm missing something, all the GCN 1.0 rebrands on that chart are wrong. Not sure how much I trust this source

As always, ignore the rumors... We'll see what happens in a few weeks.

 

Well they labeled the 7950/7970 generation as supporting FreeSync as well, but only for movies and not games.

[Victorious Secret]

Well they labeled the 7950/7970 generation as supporting FreeSync as well, but only for movies and not games.

 

I found that to be the most asinine and appalling thing. 

 

Why don't monitors already have a 24p mode? I mean...HT equipment has had the 24p for a long ass time. Hell, my Blu Ray player and receiver give nice blue lights when 24p sources are detected, and only send a 24p feed to my projector. 

Blows my mind that stuff like this hasn't a mandated standard for monitors and video output on GPUs for years. 

 

3:2 pulldown is not ever an answer for movies, and 48p movies aren't gonna be spared this issue either and we're a hell of a lot ways away from 60p footage being broadcast in movies or shows. 

[MEC-777]

Well, one things for sure; they're certainly keeping us guessing as to the exact naming and details of their next generation GPU lineup, re-brands of not. 

[Briggsy]

very interesting. They must be either using higher binned memory chips, or changing the firmware to deliver more voltage to the memory. The memory voltage is tied to core voltage with 290/x cards (which is normally how you get the memory clocks up with Hawaii, by raising core voltage), but the core/memory voltage ratio could be adjusted in firmware quite easily I imagine. This will boost benchmark scores way up, which is good in some ways, but nothing a person can't just do themselves with a 290/x.

[Sintezza]

the whole chart looks wrong to me lol.

i still conviced that a german article i read about the new line up of R9 gpu´s is the most accurate ive seen.

 

R9-395X2 Bermuda XTX

R9-390X Fiji

R9-390 Fiji

R9-380X Grenade > Hawai 290X rebrand

R9-380 Grenade > Hawai rebrand 290.

R9-370 - Tonga > 285 rebrand

R9-360 - Pitcaim > 7850 / 7870 / 270 / 270X rebrand.

[Kobz360]

the whole chart looks wrong to me lol.

i still conviced that a german article i read about the new line up of R9 gpu´s is the most accurate ive seen.

 

R9-395X2 Bermuda XTX

R9-390X Fiji

R9-390 Fiji

R9-380X Grenade > Hawai 290X rebrand

R9-380 Grenade > Hawai rebrand 290.

R9-370 - Tonga > 285 rebrand

R9-360 - Pitcaim > 7850 / 7870 / 270 / 270X rebrand.

Yeah this makes a LOT more sense. I heavily doubt that AMD will keep the Pitcairn GPU in essentially the same tier for 3 generations (7870-270/X-370). It's going to become the 360 or just be completely replaced. 

[Humbug]

Don't think that AMD will rebrand Pitcairn. They don't support freesync.

Rebranding Hawaii with a slightly lower price actually makes sense because they have proper feature support and are fast enough to go up against Maxwell.

Althoug the only truly exciting parts are the new high end Fiji parts.

[gilang01]

Hmm if this rebrand is true, their Grenada cards will still be behind the 980 and 970 performance wise (albeit with more vram). Sigh

[Doobeedoo]

Well this is nothing new I'ts well known they'd do this with limited budget.