RTX 2070 Reviews

[Deus Voltage]

Reviews are out, here are the videos/ articles as per usual:

 

Anandtech:

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https://www.anandtech.com/show/13431/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2070-founders-edition-review

 

Gamers Nexus:

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JayTwoCents:

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Hardware Unboxed:

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Paul's Hardware:

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HardwareCanucks:

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Share your thoughts!

[Shally]

Yup my work goes out the window for the next hour

EDIT: thanks for these treads, very useful

[Deus Voltage]

2 minutes ago, KendoSapion said:

Yup my work goes out the window for the next hour

EDIT: thanks for these treads, very useful

Always a pleasure!  

[Jurrunio]

2 minutes ago, VegetableStu said:

huh! that's roughly an ITX-sized PCB from EVGA o_o

AMD fans be like "just like Fury, small is GOOOD"

[Syntaxvgm]

and hard ocp screwed all of the written reviewers. 

[DocSwag]

4 minutes ago, Syntaxvgm said:

and hard ocp screwed all of the written reviewers. 

That's kinda shitty. They should've done what I think GN did with the 56 which was wait until embargo date to release it even though they're not under nda.

[Bouzoo]

Tl;dr 

30% performance over 1070 for 30% higher price. 

Bad deal imo. 970 and 1070 were 780ti and 980ti performance levels, this is way behind 1080ti. Only to see how much will the drivers push them. I reckon not an aditional 20% to be worth buying. 

[Syntaxvgm]

6 minutes ago, Bouzoo said:

Tl;dr 

30% performance over 1070 for 30% higher price. 

Bad deal imo. 970 and 1070 were 780ti and 980ti performance levels, this is way behind 1080ti. Only to see how much will the drivers push them. I reckon not an aditional 20% to be worth buying. 

would be really good imo if hey launched this at the same or similar msrp to the 970 or hell even closer to the 1070 but at this price I'm really not seeing it. A 1080 is cheaper and wayyy cheaper used. They're trying to take advantage of the fact that gpu prices for the 10 series stayed high for so long due to mining. 

 

For reference

970 launch price- 329 USD

1070 launch price- 379 USD

2070 launch price - 499 USD

[Shally]

5 minutes ago, VegetableStu said:

same performance tier as a 1080 o_o

same price tier as a 1080 as well o_o

Well not  exactly, it does outperform the 1080 without OC< I'd imagine after a few drivers and aggressive OC it will outperform the 1080 by a decent margin BUT the price for a used 1080 is much cheaper than a 2070 so

[Shally]

20 minutes ago, VegetableStu said:

but if someone wants a new 1080 for some reason, it's probably better to get a 2070

(secondhand in my area is pretty sketch in terms of explanation of item condition ._. unless it's between known forum users locally)

Yeah true, but availability of these cards might be a different issue

[maartendc]

1 hour ago, Syntaxvgm said:

would be really good imo if hey launched this at the same or similar msrp to the 970 or hell even closer to the 1070 but at this price I'm really not seeing it. A 1080 is cheaper and wayyy cheaper used. They're trying to take advantage of the fact that gpu prices for the 10 series stayed high for so long due to mining. 

 

For reference

970 launch price- 329 USD

1070 launch price- 379 USD

2070 launch price - 499 USD

 

1 hour ago, Bouzoo said:

Tl;dr 

30% performance over 1070 for 30% higher price. 

Bad deal imo. 970 and 1070 were 780ti and 980ti performance levels, this is way behind 1080ti. Only to see how much will the drivers push them. I reckon not an aditional 20% to be worth buying. 

 

1 hour ago, VegetableStu said:

but if someone wants a new 1080 for some reason, it's probably better to get a 2070

(secondhand in my area is pretty sketch in terms of explanation of item condition ._. unless it's between known forum users locally)

What they said.

 

This 20 series GPU pricing is seriously fucked. The only "positive" to come of all this is that people who bought a 10-series card like 3 months ago still feel like they got a good deal. Hell, the 10 series cards are still the better deal.

 

IT IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE THIS! THE STARS ARE MISALIGNED!!

[Demonking]

They must really want us to buy the left over 10 series stock with these prices.

[yolosnail]

All the 20 series launch has done is make Vega look like a bargain!

[maartendc]

Man, I just watched Gamersnexus' review. He brings up the 970 was $330. $330!! Remember that? That was like the lower tier of high end cards! The 980Ti was ONLY like $649 launch price. I remember thinking that was expensive back then!

 

In retrospect, these prices seem insanely cheap. We have been brainwashed to thinking a $1000 GPU is "normal". It is not.

 

Hell, for years and years, a good mid-range GPU was like $200-$250. A high end was like $350, and a top of the range was like $500. So don't give me any "inflation" crap or anything like that. That was the pricing for years and years. Going back as far as my first GPU, the GeForce 4 Ti 4600 series top of the line was $399.

[grayperview]

Still feeling good about my fury purchase 3 years ago!......

[D13H4RD]

Exactly as I expected tbh

[Bouzoo]

3 hours ago, VegetableStu said:

hoy up @Deus Voltage https://www.anandtech.com/show/13431/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2070-founders-edition-review

Wait a minute. Anandtech review that is not late by days? What is happening?

[asus killer]

4 hours ago, Bouzoo said:

Tl;dr 

30% performance over 1070 for 30% higher price. 

Bad deal imo. 970 and 1070 were 780ti and 980ti performance levels, this is way behind 1080ti. Only to see how much will the drivers push them. I reckon not an aditional 20% to be worth buying. 

GEFORCE RTX 2070 FOUNDERS EDITION IS ONLY 12 PERCENT FASTER THAN A GTX 1080 BUT COSTS 33 PERCENT MORE

 

by "PC Gamer"

[79wjd]

42 minutes ago, maartendc said:

Man, I just watched Gamersnexus' review. He brings up the 970 was $330. $330!! Remember that? That was like the lower tier of high end cards! The 980Ti was ONLY like $649 launch price. I remember thinking that was expensive back then!

 

In retrospect, these prices seem insanely cheap. We have been brainwashed to thinking a $1000 GPU is "normal". It is not.

 

Hell, for years and years, a good mid-range GPU was like $200-$250. A high end was like $350, and a top of the range was like $500. So don't give me any "inflation" crap or anything like that. That was the pricing for years and years. Going back as far as my first GPU, the GeForce 4 Ti 4600 series top of the line was $399.

The 2080ti is also 550% larger than a 4600. The 20 series has massive die sizes. And also happens to be a first gen product.

[Deli]

I can't help but feel recent launches like the Nvidia RTX and Intel 9th series are real turn-off. Can't say I feel ant excitement when looking at the prices.

[Bouzoo]

1 minute ago, asus killer said:

GEFORCE RTX 2070 FOUNDERS EDITION IS ONLY 12 PERCENT FASTER THAN A GTX 1080 BUT COSTS 33 PERCENT MORE

 

by "PC Gamer"

 

 

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The trouble is that we’re looking at a 30% performance increase over the GTX 1070 for a 30% price increase.

Gamers Nexus

 

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While the average of 10% performance increase over the GTX 1080 isn't easy to get excited about, the RTX 2070 is a no-brainer at the same price point as the GTX 1080.

 

Take for example the EVGA RTX 2070 Black Edition–at $499–it's a full $100 cheaper than the NVIDIA Founders Edition RTX 2070. Despite that price difference, the RTX 2070 Black Edition appears to make no compromises. 

 

RTX 2080 Ti	GTX 1080 Ti	RTX 2080	RTX 2070	GTX 1080	GTX 1070	RX Vega 64 (Air)
MSRP (current)	$1200 (FE)/ $1000	$699	$800 (FE)/ $700	$599 (FE)/ $499	$549	$379	$499

 

PCPer (see detailed pricing here, move the prices one row right, messed up formatting)

 

PCGamer has a FE card which is way more expensive than non FE. Both of the above mentioned are EVGA blacks. We will see about the rest.

[ThePD]

The 2070 feels just as misplaced as the 2080 and the 2080Ti. Nvidia put a lot of new tech into these cards which I don't have a problem with. Ray Tracing will be the next generation leap of computer graphics, the problem was, they seem to have this perceived notion that gamers want to be adopters for new technologies over FPS. Price is also a huge cost. I remember spending 600 on my 980ti and thinking how steep that was at the time. I couldn't imagine spending 1200+ on a GPU.

[Brooksie359]

3 hours ago, Bouzoo said:

Wait a minute. Anandtech review that is not late by days? What is happening?

The hardware ocp article probably tricked them into thinking the embargo lift was then and not now. They thought it was late. 

[DocSwag]

6 hours ago, Bouzoo said:

Wait a minute. Anandtech review that is not late by days? What is happening?

Usually their articles are pretty on time, though the CPU reviews tend to be 70% done when they're published 

[D13H4RD]

To expand on my previous comment, after reading the RTX 2080 reviews, the 2070 performing identically to a 1080 in rasterized titles for the most part isn't much of a surprise. It actually lines up with my expectations almost exactly.

 

The worry for me is pricing. Whilst the MSRP is $499, board partner AIBs will likely be closer to the $599 mark that the FE retails for.