You got your graphene in my CPU!

[LBTT]

I’m sure by now, you’ve all heard of the magical material known as graphene.  It’s become popular in recent years and has even found its way into popular culture most notiably in my mind on the show The Big Bang Theory where it’s mentioned often.  But that’s always it, isn’t it?  It’s often mentioned but nothing ever seems to come from it.  This may soon be changing.

 

This post is brought to you today by the awesome folks of the scientific journal Nature and the fine folks of phys.org (https://m.phys.org/news/2018-09-graphene-enables-clock-terahertz-range.html)

 

So?  What exactly is graphene?  Well, the simplest definition of graphene is a single, ultra thin layer of interlinking graphite carbon atoms in a hexagonal pattern.  But that doesn’t do justice to the potential benefits of what graphene really is: it nothing short of the future as it can be used to make stronger building materials, better speaker systems, extremely thin lighting and even stronger than diamond body armor.  All of which, except, I guess, the last one could be used one day in a cellphone to make it incredibly durable.

 

But now, graphene may conceivably make it into a future smart phone in your pocket in another way: it’s CPU.  And it will be much faster than today.

 

With the unsustainably of silicone to meet the ever growing demand of CPUs in today’s world, large tech giants are looking for its next replacement.  This could come in the form of graphene.  But they aren’t quite there, yet.

 

Currently, they are simply working on the

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“theory [which] has long predicted that graphene could be a very efficient ‘nonlinear’ electronic material.”

Meaning, in short, a possible replacement for silicon found in processors.  Well.  That theory may well have just been proven correct.

 

In the article above, speaking of their breakthrough into this theory, Prof. Dmitry Turchinovich at the University of Duisburg-Essen, states

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"We were not only able to experimentally demonstrate a long-predicted effect in graphene for the first time, but also to understand it quantitatively well at the same time.”

 

That effect (are you ready for this): ONE TERAHERTZ of potential processing power!

 

But like most potentials of this highly popular and fairly new super conductor, things are still a long way off from being a consumer product but, oh boy, if it doesn’t give us something to dream about.  And the future looks fast!

[bcredeur97]

one terahertz. 

When your 1080ti suddenly feels like an ancient artifact...

[PlayStation 2]

I have my interface scale set to 100% for a reason

[W-L]

@LBTT Please note the Tech News section's minimum posting requirements, as of such the thread has been moved to the CPU, Motherboards and Memory section until updated. 

 

 

[LBTT]

@W-L would you be so kind as to tell me where the thread broke the posting guidelines?

 

It isn’t duplicate as far as I know.

The title is relevant to the topic.

I added in my own opinions on the subject.

I linked to a reputable source which itself links to a scientific journal.

I quoted the article twice.

And it doesn’t fall under the media clause.

 

It is about tech.  In fact, it’s about bleeding edge tech.

 

I don’t understand why you moved my topic?

[Ashiella]

6 minutes ago, LBTT said:

@W-L would you be so kind as to tell me where the thread broke the posting guidelines?

 

It isn’t duplicate as far as I know.

The title is relevant to the topic.

I added in my own opinions on the subject.

I linked to a reputable source which itself links to a scientific journal.

I quoted the article twice.

And it doesn’t fall under the media clause.

 

It is about tech.  In fact, it’s about bleeding edge tech.

 

I don’t understand why you moved my topic?

you arent using the actual 

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quote button

 c:

[W-L]

7 minutes ago, LBTT said:

@W-L would you be so kind as to tell me where the thread broke the posting guidelines?

 

It isn’t duplicate as far as I know.

The title is relevant to the topic.

I added in my own opinions on the subject.

I linked to a reputable source which itself links to a scientific journal.

I quoted the article twice.

And it doesn’t fall under the media clause.

 

It is about tech.  In fact, it’s about bleeding edge tech.

 

I don’t understand why you moved my topic?

Ah alright there are quotes, please in the future to add them into quote boxes for ease of formatting.  

[LBTT]

49 minutes ago, W-L said:

Ah alright there are quotes, please in the future to add them into quote boxes for ease of formatting.  

Oh!  Yeah!  Sorry about that.  I’ll do it in future.  I wrote this in iOS notes.  Why is the text so big?  Will you move it back, then?

[DocSwag]

11 hours ago, LBTT said:

Oh!  Yeah!  Sorry about that.  I’ll do it in future.  I wrote this in iOS notes.  Why is the text so big?  Will you move it back, then?

If you highlight it all and hit the TX button it removes formatting weirdness.

[samcool55]

Oh, graphene, the magical pixy dust that only exists in labs.

[Origami Cactus]

16 minutes ago, samcool55 said:

Oh, graphene, the magical pixy dust that only exists in labs.

also in your pencil.

[Origami Cactus]

4 minutes ago, VegetableStu said:

graphite is not s--

 

...

 

can stacks of graphene still be collectively classified as graphene..? o_o

Damn it, the english language is complicated.

Anyways if you want to turn the graphite into graphene you can do that:

http://www.graphene-battery.net/graphene.htm

(if you scroll down there is a tutorial on how to make graphene at home)

[mynameisjuan]

24 minutes ago, samcool55 said:

Oh, graphene, the magical pixy dust that only exists in labs.

Still waiting on my graphite batteries that were discovered what...6-7years ago at this point? I expect the same for this. 

[Jtalk4456]

15 hours ago, LBTT said:

1. I’m sure by now, you’ve all heard of the magical material known as graphene.  It’s become popular in recent years and has even found its way into popular culture most notiably in my mind on the show The Big Bang Theory where it’s mentioned often.  But that’s always it, isn’t it?  It’s often mentioned but nothing ever seems to come from it.  This may soon be changing.

 

2. With the unsustainably of silicone to meet the ever growing demand of CPUs in today’s world

1. The irony of knowing how many times we've been told it was coming and nothing happens, and still being like, but THIS TIME it looks for real...

2. Could you elaborate on the unsustainability of silicon? I wasn't aware that it was a problem, as a matter of fact I've been told it's extremely sustainable due to this fact

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Silicon is the seventh-most abundant element in the universe and the second-most abundant element on the planet, after oxygen, according to the Royal Society of Chemistry.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding your meaning, or I've missed something in the news about this, but as far as I knew this was one of our more sustainable industrial materials

[FloRolf]

15 hours ago, LBTT said:

That effect (are you ready for this): ONE TERAHERTZ of potential processing power!

In what universe is processing power measured in hertz? 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

 

42 minutes ago, Jtalk4456 said:

...2. Could you elaborate on the unsustainability of silicon? I wasn't aware that it was a problem, as a matter of fact I've been told it's extremely sustainable due to this fact

Maybe I'm misunderstanding your meaning, or I've missed something in the news about this, but as far as I knew this was one of our more sustainable industrial materials

Silicon is an abundant element but it's not always economically accessible. Sand is the most common source for the silicon used in electronic chips but not all sand is suitable for that and the sand that is suitable is being rapidly depleted, often at the detriment of the environment. Carbon is far more accessible and it would be huge if graphene could be used to economically replace silicon.

34 minutes ago, FloRolf said:

In what universe is processing power measured in hertz? 

This one. Processor speed, which can be considered a parameter of computing power, is measured in Hz, usually GHz.

[Jtalk4456]

6 minutes ago, Lady Fitzgerald said:

 

Silicon is an abundant element but it's not always economically accessible. Sand is the most common source for the silicon used in electronic chips but not all sand is suitable for that and the sand that is suitable is being rapidly depleted, often at the detriment of the environment. Carbon is far more accessible and it would be huge if graphene could be used to economically replace silicon.

Interesting, didn't know that. Well here's to hoping that the graphene thing works this time.

Edit: Auto-correct wanted me to change graphene to geographer... 

[Thaldor]

42 minutes ago, Jtalk4456 said:

2. Could you elaborate on the unsustainability of silicon? I wasn't aware that it was a problem, as a matter of fact I've been told it's extremely sustainable due to this fact

Maybe I'm misunderstanding your meaning, or I've missed something in the news about this, but as far as I knew this was one of our more sustainable industrial materials

Silicone isn't going to run out, but its properties are. To meet the demand and to keep up the development, more high quality silicone is needed and even it is coming to its limits. At the moment biggest performance gain is achieved with smaller transistors and that is the problem because transistors are becoming so small that they are becoming unreliable by quantum tunneling (electrons can "jump" over the transistor cap). Apparently 7nm is still achieveable but 5nm may very well be only a daydream, at least with silicone. So, that is also one unsustainability factor of silicone, it just can't handle what we need from it in the future and considering ITRS stopped developing 7nm, so I would say that future is far closer than graphene getting out of the labs.

[Lady Fitzgerald]

5 hours ago, Thaldor said:

Silicone isn't going to run out, but its properties are. To meet the demand and to keep up the development, more high quality silicone is needed and even it is coming to its limits. At the moment biggest performance gain is achieved with smaller transistors and that is the problem because transistors are becoming so small that they are becoming unreliable by quantum tunneling (electrons can "jump" over the transistor cap). Apparently 7nm is still achieveable but 5nm may very well be only a daydream, at least with silicone. So, that is also one unsustainability factor of silicone, it just can't handle what we need from it in the future and considering ITRS stopped developing 7nm, so I would say that future is far closer than graphene getting out of the labs.

Read these links about the silicon and sand shortage.

 

https://electroiq.com/2017/07/silicon-wafer-shortage-starts-in-2018/

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-13/solar-companies-grapple-with-unexpected-shortage-of-key-material

 

https://www.npr.org/2017/07/21/538472671/world-faces-global-sand-shortage

 

https://www.zmescience.com/ecology/environmental-issues/hidden-shortage-world-running-low-sand/

[Ryujin2003]

22 hours ago, bcredeur97 said:

one terahertz. 

When your 1080ti suddenly feels like an ancient artifact...

RTX 2080 TI just got outdated before its release...

[Bananasplit_00]

13 hours ago, samcool55 said:

Oh, graphene, the magical pixy dust that only exists in labs.

It's not that hard to make though, you can make it at home if you want to experiment with DIY supercapacitors or stuff like that. Plenty of videos on YouTube on how to make and use it. What's harder is to make large sheets, but loads of smaller pieces is no problem

[DragonTamer1]

On 9/10/2018 at 9:48 PM, LBTT said:

silicone

Like the breast implants?

[Tiber1337]

Should I wait for graphene or buy now?

[Lady Fitzgerald]

35 minutes ago, Tiber1337 said:

Should I wait for graphene or buy now?

It's going to be quite a while (if ever) before graphene will be availble so I would go ahead and buy now.

 

There is always new technology waiting around the corner. If you keep waiting for next new tech, you will never buy. It doesn't matter when or what you buy, it will be outdated shortly after you get it.

[GoldenLag]

2 minutes ago, Lady Fitzgerald said:

It's going to be quite a while (if ever) before graphene will be availble so I would go ahead and buy now.

 

There is always new technology waiting around the corner. If you keep waiting for next new tech, you will never buy. It doesn't matter when or what you buy, it will be outdated shortly after you get it.

unless you bought a 3000 series intel CPU, those are still relevant and not outdated