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what irritates you most about using older pc's/laptops?

What irritates me most is my job wants us to get things done for customers in a timely manner on computers that lag using the java app we use to access millions of customers accounts.

 

 

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As long as the system meets my expectations for it's specs, i won't get annoyed. In fact I enjoy doing modern tasks on old hardware sometimes, because I'm weird that way. But if the system is not meeting my expectations due to a incredibly slow/dying HDD or lots of bloatware, then I get annoyed. Because a computer that's in fine health but low spec'd is at least consistently slow which my patience can handle, but working on a computer that's just being an annoying bitch and doing whatever it wants to, well......

 

For instance, I'd much rather use a Core 2 Duo machine that's in good health than a i3 machine that's slow/unstable. In fact, funny story, back in 2011 my shitty Athlon x2 Dell inspiron laptop (which was my main computer at the time) would randomly crash ALL THE TIME, overheat and just acted all around weird, so I dug out my 1GHZ pentium iii and switched to it for pretty much everything for awhile, just because the experience was more sane and predictable. (And keep in mind, back in 2011 Pentium iiis were a bit more usable than they are nowadays because browsers weren't bloated like shit yet.)

 

Don't really know why I can be so patient with older systems. I don't really consider myself to be a patient person, but there's just something really relaxing to me about surfing the web or playing Minecraft on a Athlon 64. :D

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6 hours ago, Lathlaer said:

Yea until you have to restart your PC several times in a row because you are tweaking, installing some stuff and/or OC'ing ;-)

i know that pain. i have had server motherboards in my main system for about 6 months now, and those are slow to POST. for context my parents have an i3 7100 machine with a regular sata ssd, and that thing is booted to the Windows lock screen when my system is through POST. 

 

the board i had before the one i have now was insanely slow. that one took about 2 minutes to POST. 

 

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14 hours ago, James Evens said:

Software: windows xp. It works. Does not want a microsoft account. No annoying updates. No bluescreens.

Till you get a virus from Kazzaa.

it's time

 

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20 minutes ago, LOOK OVER HERE said:

When you want to play a game on it but you get like 1 FPS and the fan turns into a hairdryer convection oven with a blowiematron in it. My laptop is 4 years old and it's more of the "hairdryer" thing, but it's still insanely fast (4800MQ). I've seen MUCH MUCH WORSE. 

yep. my quad core i7 2011 macbook pro sounds like a jet engine as well if i do something intense on it. 

although it only does that because i've used an app to set my own fan curve with a max cpu temp of 65 degrees celsius, because stock it goes to 90 degrees before the fans even ramp up agressively, and i don't want it to break...

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14 hours ago, James Evens said:

Software: windows xp. It works. Does not want a microsoft account. No annoying updates. No bluescreens.

just use Linux if you want something like that. Windows XP is extremely insecure. 

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Trying to use the old peripherals. Some old machines really dont like to work with anything but the hardware that they came with or they don't support newer standards....

Slow loading of games and programs/boot.

Most of the time it's not too bad but on some systems it takes ages...

Have half a mind to throw an ssd in each of my systems at some point.

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My old machines all work great because they are Macs. 

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HDD that'd be lucky to hit 40MB/sec reads.

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14 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

HDD that'd be lucky to hit 40MB/sec reads.

it depends what old hdd's are used for. i loaded my steam library off two 250gb drives in raid 0 for a while and that was acceptable for me in terms of loading times. but i would never trust a setup like that with important data. if it's just games that's fine for me... 

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6 hours ago, RorzNZ said:

My old machines all work great because they are Macs. 

All my old machines still work great and none of them are Macs. :P

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On older versions of Windows: the lack of Windows key shortcuts. Though color me surprised when I found out in Windows 98 Win + E, Win + F, and Win + R work. Just not anything else I want.

 

Also finding the right drivers for old hardware. I sort of stalled on my old school build because the sound card I have doesn't want to play nice with any of the drivers I've found.

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my laptop takes like 10 mins to boot but if I use sleep mode I only have to wait 10 seconds

 

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7 hours ago, 2Buck said:

All my old machines still work great and none of them are Macs. :P

Results may vary. 

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5 hours ago, RorzNZ said:

Results may vary. 

Results always vary, regardless of what you own.

 

No brand is perfect, they all have issues. Are Macs more idiot proof than PCs? Oh hell yes they are, I'll easily admit that. Are Macbooks more reliable than shitty cheap HPs/Dell laptops? Of course they are. But let's quit the "PCs always have problems" crap those late 2000s commercials taught you.

 

My Apple worshiping cousin has run into just as many problems as anyone else I help out. He's had a dead fan, a dead HDD, a battery that bloated so large that it bent his 2012 MBP's case, thermal throttling, etc.

 

On the other hand, I baby my stuff. As a massive PC hoarder (fifty towers last time I checked, over 10 of which run 24/7), I've had it smooth. Other than a part failing every once in a blue moon (which would also happen to a Mac hoarder, everything fails eventually) it's been smooth. If you take care of your stuff and don't buy cheap garbage, you'll likely have it good. Only time I had a really rough time is when I used a Dell Inspiron. Don't even get me started on that cheap bastard. I don't think there's one part in that SOB that DIDN'T fail.

 

So point is, like the first sentence, results ALWAYS vary with computers.

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10 minutes ago, 2Buck said:

Results always vary, regardless of what you own.

 

No brand is perfect, they all have issues. Are Macs more idiot proof than PCs? Oh hell yes they are, I'll easily admit that. Are Macbooks more reliable than shitty cheap HPs/Dell laptops? Of course they are. But let's quit the "PCs always have problems" crap those late 2000s commercials taught you.

 

My Apple worshiping cousin has run into just as many problems as anyone else I help out. He's had a dead fan, a dead HDD, a battery that bloated so large that it bent his 2012 MBP's case, thermal throttling, etc.

 

On the other hand, I baby my stuff. As a massive PC hoarder (fifty towers last time I checked, over 10 of which run 24/7), I've had it smooth. Other than a part failing every once in a blue moon (which would also happen to a Mac hoarder, everything fails eventually) it's been smooth. If you take care of your stuff and don't buy cheap garbage, you'll likely have it good. Only time I had a really rough time is when I used a Dell Inspiron. Don't even get me started on that cheap bastard. I don't think there's one part in that SOB that DIDN'T fail.

 

So point is, like the first sentence, results ALWAYS vary with computers.

Not really saying PCs always break down or whatever lol. If you treat any stuff with care they will last a long time. It's expensive stuff, so unless you have nice insurance it's always good to get a nice case and screen protectors etc for a phone or laptop or whatever and a very strong case for a PC, and always clean carefully etc. Electronics are designed to last a lifetime. 

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1. slow boot up

2. os restarted bcuz of not enough ram

3. slow to load a few gb of files

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Realising that the laptop I was trying to re-use was only 32 bit was annoying when trying to load some stuff on steam, but then the silver lining was it was much easier to get it to properly support old 16 bit games than it was on the 64bit high spec desktop.

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Even new laptops, its the damn hard drives.

 

I'm sure people would buy a 128GB SSD machine over a 1TB HDD machine if they knew how much snappier the SSD machine would be.

 

I work at a PC repair shop and I sell so many SSDs after I show the customer what their PC can really do, its insane.

 

Having to work on a laptop that takes 5 minutes to do anything is just so frustrating

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On 24.8.2018 at 11:38 AM, firelighter487 said:

as the title says, what irritates you most about using older pc's/laptops?

Well, that they are old. 
Sad thing: If you have "the right one", it feels better than most modern ones.

 

So the only issue I have is lack of Performance, USB 3.0 and in some cases even lack of GBit LAN...

 

On 24.8.2018 at 11:38 AM, firelighter487 said:

for me besides gpu's when i want ot game it's always ram. 

Yeah, 4GiB it is with most Core 2 Duo based Notebooks, a bit more with DDR3-SDRAM based ones...

 

 

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1 hour ago, Stefan Payne said:

So the only issue I have is lack of Performance, USB 3.0 and in some cases even lack of GBit LAN...

yeah, my motherboard doesn't have usb 3.0... it's easy to add with a pci-e card, but if your board is old enough that it doesn't have slots for those then yeah.....

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