what irritates you most about using older pc's/laptops?

[Indus Monk]

11 hours ago, iamdarkyoshi said:

Even new laptops, its the damn hard drives.

HDD's aren't that bad. its actually windows 10 that slows them down a lot

[Ashley MLP Fangirl]

1 hour ago, elderago said:

On topic, compatibility, general performance and the fact that most people should just ditch there ten year old computer unless they plan on using something like puppy linux

i had a Core 2 Quad Q9550 which was released in 2008.. i overclocked that to 3.7ghz and that performed well. it was about the same in multi core geekbench as a 7200U... 

it depends what kind of hardware from 2008 you have. something like a decent Core 2 Quad is still fine for casual web browsing and stuff. 

 

1 hour ago, Razor Blade said:

The majority of the time the cost to buy and upgrade an old PC or laptop would exceed the cost of buying something a generation newer. The cost to upgrade that newer generation would exceed the cost of buying another generation newer... on and on until you reach the newest generation. So finding the balance of budget, bang for buck, and not throwing good money after bad can be a delicate (and sometimes frustrating) process.

meh.. if i need another 8gb of ram in my pc it would cost me about €25. i'm talking second hand stuff of course but still. 

 

58 minutes ago, Inversion said:

Yeah. I have to say i don't regret Ryzen one bit. Only thing I wish I'd done was checked properly that my RAM was on the QVL. I thought it was but apparently not so I can only get up to 2933 MHz rather than the rated 3200. My 16GB RAM Kit cost me about £200. There were cheaper options but I love the look of TridentZ RGB and I don't mind the slight extra cost.

that's about €220. that's a great deal.. when did you buy that ram? before it got crazy expensive?

 

26 minutes ago, AmbarChakrabarti said:

HDD's aren't that bad. its actually windows 10 that slows them down a lot

kinda.. a lightweight linux distro like Lubuntu is kinda okay from a hdd but still feels slow to respond opening programs. 

[alicskysareblue]

Just now, firelighter487 said:

i had a Core 2 Quad Q9550 which was released in 2008.. i overclocked that to 3.7ghz and that performed well. it was about the same in multi core geekbench as a 7200U... 

it depends what kind of hardware from 2008 you have. something like a decent Core 2 Quad is still fine for casual web browsing and stuff. 

 

 

It was just a random amount of years, I wasent being specific,

 

I used a computer from 1998 until 2010 yeah it was slow and couldnt play modern games but it worked at the time

I then used a laptop from 2007, until the internals burned out, for about 2 years

in both cases the thing that drove me nuts was performance, and compatibility.

[Ashley MLP Fangirl]

Just now, elderago said:

It was just a random amount of years, I wasent being specific,

 

I used a computer from 1998 until 2010 yeah it was slow and couldnt play modern games but it worked at the time

I then used a laptop from 2007, until the internals burned out, for about 2 years

in both cases the thing that drove me nuts was performance, and compatibility.

oh okay yeah. my mindset has always been if i can get a few more years out of a machine that still has enough performance for me by putting in a second hand ssd for like €30 i'll do it...

[alicskysareblue]

1 minute ago, firelighter487 said:

oh okay yeah. my mindset has always been if i can get a few more years out of a machine that still has enough performance for me by putting in a second hand ssd for like €30 i'll do it...

I agree, its why I hesitate building a new computer mine is perfectly fine, I could probably wait another year or two

 

but damnit  I want to build something lol

[Ashley MLP Fangirl]

Just now, elderago said:

I agree, its why I hesitate building a new computer mine is perfectly fine, I could probably wait another year or two

 

but damnit  I want to build something lol

if you want a challenge buy old server stuff. you'll encounter things you never thought possible when building your system.

 

one of my hyper 212 evo's is rotated 90 degrees from the other one, because the sockets on my board are layed out so close together that the 212 evo's don't fit together vertically. and i can't turn the top one horizontally because then it'll interfere with my gpu's  

[alicskysareblue]

theres a dell power t310 on ebay thats going for 90 dollers Im tempted to buy it but I have no idea what Id use it for lol

[Ashley MLP Fangirl]

Just now, elderago said:

theres a dell power t310 on ebay thats going for 90 dollers Im tempted to buy it but I have no idea what Id use it for lol

then don't... if you'll never use it it's pointless. 

[alicskysareblue]

Just now, firelighter487 said:

then don't... if you'll never use it it's pointless. 

eh I wasnt going to I need to pay for college

[xriqn]

The dust, heat issues and driver headaches. Anything else is bearable, I'm still using a SATA II 7200rpm Samsung Spinpoint F3 HDD from 2010 as my boot drive for example. 1 - 2 min boot time is nothing to me considering I shared a laptop with my mum and dad from 3 years old until I was 10 years old and it took about 10 mins to boot up.

[Inversion]

1 hour ago, firelighter487 said:

that's about €220. that's a great deal.. when did you buy that ram? before it got crazy expensive?

I bought that about 8 months ago. Same time I got my Ryzen system since I was upgrading from FM2+ so needed DDR4.

 

Pretty sure it came from this site. https://www.alza.co.uk/

 

EDIT: Yeah, this is my kit. https://www.alza.co.uk/g-skill-trident-z-rgb-16gb-kit-ddr4-d4948815.htm?o=1

[oahbpn]

No RGB

[jsjones008]

In my job, I see it all. The most annoying thing is just the general care people take of their electronics. I hate seeing laptops in such bad condition whilst only being 2 years old at most.

 

Hardware-wise, though, I'd definitely say 5600RPM mechanical drives. *shudder*

[PineyCreek]

16 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

 

Any questions? ;-)

 

The best thing would probably be this:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/SINTECH-M-2-NGFF-B-M-Key-SATA-SSD-to-44pin-2-5-IDE-adapter-card-with-case-/321532216470

 

As 44pin to S-ATA Adaptors are quite hard for laptops, you have to go for m.2 instead.

 

Most of the other Adaptors I've found from "reputable Vendors" are mSATA. And since that isn't EOL and Samsung makes the 860 EVO in mSATA for the same price as the others, its also an Option.

 

https://www.amazon.de/Delock-62495-Konverter-mSATA-Rahmen/dp/B00ELC8GFO

...ok, that's pretty impressive.

[Crunchy Dragon]

6 hours ago, jsjones008 said:

5600RPM mechanical drives. *shudder*

5400RPM is even worse.

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

I generally hate laptops that are constructed using the cheapest, most brittle plastic you can find. I just took apart my IdeaPad to repair the hinge assembly and as I was taking off the display bezel, I was amazed on how cheaply made it was. You have to pry it just to unhook the little plastic tabs and clips that hold it together, but at the same time it feels like you can just as easily snap those dumb things. The manual always makes it seem easily, but it's never the case. 

[Ashley MLP Fangirl]

12 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

5400RPM is even worse.

for sure. 

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

13 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

5400RPM is even worse.

SSHDs need to die. They are absolutely useless. 

[EG!]

19 hours ago, JoostinOnline said:

Do a fresh install of Windows. Whatever version it came with. Definitely not Windows 10.

I don't wanna go back to Windows 8 lol, it's just the hdd that's almost always maxed out.

I only use it when I forget my laptop somewhere else and not have my brick of a work laptop around.

[JoostinOnline]

8 minutes ago, EG! said:

I don't wanna go back to Windows 8 lol, it's just the hdd that's almost always maxed out.

I only use it when I forget my laptop somewhere else and not have my brick of a work laptop around.

It's maxed out because you're using Windows 10. It's a very demanding OS.

[Supportsneedlove]

Any time I have to use Windows 8.

[Stefan Payne]

1 minute ago, Supportsneedlove said:

Any time I have to use Windows 8.

c'mon, its not that bad.

I quite liked it when I used it.

And the only controversial thing was the start menu anyway.

 

The rest is really an improvement over 7.

But the usual turd cycle from M$: well liked - not liked - well liked - not liked - well liked...

 

See Win2k wich wasn't that liked because it was the first "gamable" with NT Core. "CLickibunti" as we called Windows XP was more widely used than 2k.

Same with Vista wich was the first based on the NT6 core and wasn't that ready (some applications still looked oldish), wich was fixed in NT6.1 aka WIndows 7.

NT6.2 improved further on the 6.1 architecture but totally messed it up with the start menu, wich wasn't bad but totally different and no option for the older one...

And then there was WIndows 10...

 

In the 9x area it was total chaos. Had three Windows 95 version and not any less 98 ones...

[EG!]

33 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

It's maxed out because you're using Windows 10. It's a very demanding OS.

Barely notice a difference in speed from windows 8-10,

The solution will be buying an ssd.

[jerr334]

I can barely multitask

WAYY too slow

 

Really low capacity RAM (im talking 2 or 4 gigs)

 

Barely Upgrade-able

 

Terrible Graphics

Really low capcity SSD/HDD  

[Guest]

lack of optimization with modern websites

theres no reason any website that isnt displaying running video should be laggy on an extremely old computer

when did a simple forum become so bloated?

LTT forums arent that bad but sites like cnet are entirely unusable

 

pic related, browsing and posting this from my thinkpad G40, desktop replacement laptop from 2003 with a full fledged socket 478 inside