Apple quietly updated their MacBook Pros with 8th gen CPUs, 32GB RAM, True Tone displays, 3rd gen butterfly keyboards

[mynameisjuan]

26 minutes ago, Enderman said:

Well technically it is correct....

Yeah its correct but dont give me the bullshit that "it was designed around it". 

[RedRound2]

1 minute ago, Christophe Corazza said:

This is really weird, just coming out of nowhere with no keynote or fanfare. I also would've expected them to say something about the keyboards; as it stands, even if they have fixed the reliability issues I wouldn't trust them without some kind of official acknowledgement that "Yes, there was a problem, but it's fixed now".

What a strange release.

They did admit it was a problem by deploying a recall program. But I guess part of the reason they also did it quietly was so that they wouldn't have to say anything about their embarrassing mistake on stage

[Blade of Grass]

6 minutes ago, Christophe Corazza said:

This is really weird, just coming out of nowhere with no keynote or fanfare. I also would've expected them to say something about the keyboards; as it stands, even if they have fixed the reliability issues I wouldn't trust them without some kind of official acknowledgement that "Yes, there was a problem, but it's fixed now".

What a strange release.

Pretty sure Apple has traditionally done iterative hardware refreshes like this. See: most iMac, Mac Mini, Mac Pro, etc refreshes. They only really do announcements for phones and larger feature updates. 

[Amazonsucks]

Not even gonna bother googling what their bs marketing speak true tone display is. Retina display 2.0 i assume. 

[RedRound2]

3 minutes ago, Amazonsucks said:

Not even gonna bother googling what their bs marketing speak true tone display is. Retina display 2.0 i assume. 

True tone display adjusts the colour temperatures of the screen based on ambient lighting conditions. It's designed to be much easier on the eye.

But of course it can be turned off and is disabled by default in any colour sensitive apps

They've had this tech in iPad Pro lineups for years now and also the last gen iPhone 8, 8 plus and the X

[captain_to_fire]

Well looks like Linus can no longer complain about the RAM and core count. 

 

Though I was a bit bummed that the non-touch bar MacBook Pro didn’t got the quad core treatment 

[yolosnail]

£6,209 for a 2.9GHz 6 Core i9, 32GB RAM and 4TB SSD isn't too bad...

[Amazonsucks]

9 minutes ago, RedRound2 said:

True tone display adjusts the colour temperatures of the screen based on ambient lighting conditions. It's designed to be much easier on the eye.

But of course it can be turned off and is disabled by default in any colour sensitive apps

They've had this tech in iPad Pro lineups for years now and also the last gen iPhone 8, 8 plus and the X

Oh thats lame. Most people have cheap LED lighting nowadays so if it adjusts the white point to match the ambient lighting its doing a disservice to your eyes.

 

Much better to just use the built in OSD on a monitor and set it to warm for everything except colour critical work, which youd want the exact white point calibrated for. Or use the slider and turn the blue down by 50-75% in Windows or Blue Light Filter in Android. F.Lux was nice to bring general awareness to the issue but just about everything can be easily calibrated to be less retina destroying nowadays.

[Enderman]

29 minutes ago, mynameisjuan said:

Yeah its correct but dont give me the bullshit that "it was designed around it". 

The CPU is near the middle of the computer and then they design the parts around it?

[jj9987]

47 minutes ago, Castdeath97 said:

Hold on, why are the non-touch bar models left with older processors? 

These new, announced, models do not have non-touch bar variants.

[Castdeath97]

2 minutes ago, jj9987 said:

These new, announced, models do not have non-touch bar variants.

Why not? Frankly, I'm sick of the touch bars. 400 USD isn't worth it for a touch bar.

[S w a t s o n]

I've noticed Apple is adopting the same dark theme'd spec-focused web page the iMac Pro had. It's a good step forward for apple

[RedRound2]

15 minutes ago, Amazonsucks said:

Oh thats lame. Most people have cheap LED lighting nowadays so if it adjusts the white point to match the ambient lighting its doing a disservice to your eyes.

 

Much better to just use the built in OSD on a monitor and set it to warm for everything except colour critical work, which youd want the exact white point calibrated for. Or use the slider and turn the blue down by 50-75% in Windows or Blue Light Filter in Android. F.Lux was nice to bring general awareness to the issue but just about everything can be easily calibrated to be less retina destroying nowadays.

I don't think it shifts to blue all that much. I've seen it mainly working on my iPad Pro when I shift between warm and cold light sources. But don't quote me on this.

[jj9987]

3 minutes ago, Castdeath97 said:

Why not? Frankly, I'm sick of the touch bars. 400 USD isn't worth it for a touch bar.

I can only guess. Perhaps Apple is trying to get this Touch Bar more widely used. At least it also brings Touch ID along.

[Techicolors]

shame that only the touchbar models are upgraded. i dont have much use for a touchbar (apart from touch id). still, tempted by a quad-core MBP

[schwellmo92]

Oh god I can only imagine how hot and how much thermal throttling there will be. Would there even be any point getting the 8950HK? You might have very short bursts of higher single core than the 8750H but it wouldn’t be long till that drops way down.

 

The new XPS with 8950HK thermal throttles to 3GHz on all cores and that historically has had a much beefier cooling solution that MBP’s.

[Crunchy Dragon]

2 hours ago, mynameisjuan said:

You mean what more cores natually do in a machine with VMs? What a bullshit statement.

Virtual machines use physical system resources; more resources(CPU cores, RAM, etc) = better performance in VMs and higher ability to run multiple VMs.

[benwubbleyou]

This is what I was hoping the new Macbook specs were going to be like, 2 years ago when the freaking macbooks came out. Finally 32GB of RAM, new updated keyboard, and better core counts. Shame it's 5 grand for the best model here in Canada. I want it tho. I will just mortgage my entire life to make it happen.

[Curufinwe_wins]

21 minutes ago, schwellmo92 said:

Oh god I can only imagine how hot and how much thermal throttling there will be. Would there even be any point getting the 8950HK? You might have very short bursts of higher single core than the 8750H but it wouldn’t be long till that drops way down.

 

The new XPS with 8950HK thermal throttles to 3GHz on all cores and that historically has had a much beefier cooling solution that MBP’s.

Yeah probably not.

[Trixanity]

2 hours ago, Castdeath97 said:

Hold on, why are the non-touch bar models left with older processors? 

Money.

 

They want to sell you the touch bar. Also, it'll reduce the impact of the new 13 model if they all get quad cores.

 

Tl;dr incentive to buy the new more expensive model. 

 

It's the exact same business model Microsoft just showcased with their new Surface Go. It's starts at $400 but you need to spend $550 to get the non-gimped version and then for some reason you need to buy the $100 DLC separately (hint: the keyboard).

[DrMacintosh]

These new MacBook Pros suck. 

 

$1,799 for a 13” with a Quad Core, 8GB of DDR3, with only 256GB of storage and no dGPU? Yeah, thanks but not thanks. 

 

That model should be the entry MacBook Pro and cost $1,500 at the most.

 

These prices are just insane. I think my 2016 nTB is going to be staying with me for a long time. 

[Unhelpful]

3 hours ago, Amazonsucks said:

Not even gonna bother googling what their bs marketing speak true tone display is. Retina display 2.0 i assume. 

 

3 hours ago, RedRound2 said:

True tone display adjusts the colour temperatures of the screen based on ambient lighting conditions. It's designed to be much easier on the eye.

But of course it can be turned off and is disabled by default in any colour sensitive apps

They've had this tech in iPad Pro lineups for years now and also the last gen iPhone 8, 8 plus and the X

I was a major skeptic of true tone actually being good, typically auto-light correction stuff is fucking garbage. After getting my iPhone X I'll never want to use a mobile device without it again.

[Trixanity]

15 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

These new MacBook Pros suck. 

 

$1,799 for a 13” with a Quad Core, 8GB of DDR3, with only 256GB of storage and no dGPU? Yeah, thanks but not thanks. 

 

That model should be the entry MacBook Pro and cost $1,500 at the most.

 

These prices are just insane. I think my 2016 nTB is going to be staying with me for a long time. 

Apple has been so generous to give you more cores so, like Microsoft, you'll now pay for your device on a per core basis.

[DrMacintosh]

4 minutes ago, Trixanity said:

Apple has been so generous to give you more cores so, like Microsoft, you'll now pay for your device on a per core basis.

Screw that. I only got this 2016 models because it was on sale for Presidents' Day at my local BestBuy for $1,250. Even if I could sell this thing for that much, no way in hell I'll be paying another $500 for 2 Cores and a gimmick. 

[RedRound2]

21 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

These new MacBook Pros suck. 

 

$1,799 for a 13” with a Quad Core, 8GB of DDR3, with only 256GB of storage and no dGPU? Yeah, thanks but not thanks. 

Why are you surprised? It was exactly the same before. If anything you get two more cores for the same price. And I don't think anything this sleek in 13-inch form factor have any kind of decent dGPUs

21 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

That model should be the entry MacBook Pro and cost $1,500 at the most.

Yeah I agree. Maybe next year