Apple quietly updated their MacBook Pros with 8th gen CPUs, 32GB RAM, True Tone displays, 3rd gen butterfly keyboards

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, RedRound2 said:

Why are you surprised? It was exactly the same before. If anything you get two more cores for the same price. And I don't think anything this sleek in 13-inch form factor have any kind of decent dGPUs

Yeah I agree. Maybe next year

 

I didn't like those prices before either. 

 

People like to think I blindly love Apple, yeah no. I've been telling these prices to take a hike for 2 years now. 

[79wjd]

4 hours ago, NunoLava1998 said:

>Macs actually are good at specs for once (except Mac Pro)

 

this is extremely surprising

Historically, that has pretty much always been the case except when they take forever to update models when a new cpu launched.

[RedRound2]

4 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

I didn't like those prices before either. 

 

People like to think I blindly love Apple, yeah no. I've been telling these prices to take a hike for 2 years now. 

I feel like Apple used to be better at pricing around 2012-2015. The did slash rMBP price quite alot around it's second gen and I was expecting the same for this

Nowadays with MacBook (it should cost 600-800 max), MBPs and the iPhones price, I do feel like they're getting a bit out of control

Also what's with the $3200 4TB SSD Upgrade. It's insane

[AlTech]

7 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

I didn't like those prices before either. 

 

People like to think I blindly love Apple, yeah no. I've been telling these prices to take a hike for 2 years now. 

You should see how courageous they were with their SSD pricing.

 

 

This is unbelievable.

[DrMacintosh]

2 minutes ago, RedRound2 said:

I feel like Apple used to be better at pricing around 2012-2015. The did slash rMBP price quite alot around it's second gen and I was expecting the same for this

Nowadays with MacBook (it should cost 600-800 max), MBPs and the iPhones price, I do feel like they're getting a bit out of control

Also what's with the $3200 4TB SSD Upgrade. It's insane

Yep. Personally I don't have a big problem with iPhone prices. They are much more reasonable and at least perform better than the things that are cheeper than it. The Macs however, they use the same CPUs as everyone else but Apple has decided that the TouchBar has to get shoved down our throats if you want something with performance enough to do something as simple as encode video faster than real time. 

 

The MacBook definitely should be like ~$750, the new quad core 13" Pro needs to be like $1,500, and the i9 models can be whatever, idc, lol. 

 

Every PC OEM is kicking Apple in the ass in terms of price/spec and its all because of that stupid TouchBar. That dumb gimmick adds like $300 to the price of every machine. 

 

[Christophe Corazza]

3 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

You should see how courageous they were with their SSD pricing.

 

This is unbelievable.

 

Hooooooly f**k! $ 3400 for a 4 TB SSD?!?!?! That's insane!

[DrMacintosh]

2 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

You should see how courageous they were with their SSD pricing.

This is unbelievable.

I don't really care about SSD storage past 512GB. External drives exist, you don't have to keep everything internal. 

 

But yeah, the pricing is crazy. 

[AlTech]

1 minute ago, Christophe Corazza said:

 

Hooooooly f**k! $ 3400 for a 4 TB SSD?!?!?! That's insane!

It gets worse....

 

This is the price of a fully decked out 15" 2018 MBP

 

[Christophe Corazza]

1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

I don't really care about SSD storage past 512GB. External drives exist, you don't have to keep everything internal. 

 

But yeah, the pricing is crazy. 

 

Indeed, I also use internal storage only for software programs

All of my files/documents/pictures/etc. are stored on my server running RAID.

[captain_to_fire]

1 minute ago, AluminiumTech said:

You should see how courageous they were with their SSD pricing.

Probably because they use NVME SSDs which is more expensive https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-970-PRO-512GB-MZ-V7P512BW/dp/B07C8Y31G2 

 

But then $600 for 1TB NVME SSD is only on the Mac when 1TB Samsung 970 Pro is just $395. 

[captain_to_fire]

Let’s not forget that Apple didn’t bothered to replace their problematic butterfly key switches 

[Christophe Corazza]

4 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

It gets worse....

 

This is the price of a fully decked out 15" 2018 MBP

 

 

[Christophe Corazza]

1 minute ago, captain_to_fire said:

Let’s not forget that Apple didn’t bothered to replace their problematic butterfly key switches 

 

I thought they mentioned that they changed the keyboard design? No?

[AlTech]

1 minute ago, Christophe Corazza said:

 

I thought they mentioned that they changed the keyboard design? No?

They made a few minor adjustments but it's the same basic design. Which is prone to fail.

[Nerdom]

4 hours ago, Swatson said:

Ayyy, Apple isnt passing off a dual core in a Macbook PRO anymore

 

Edit: Gave them too much credit, they still sell the dual-core in the non-touchbar 13inch model.

JESUS dual core needs to die. GOOD LORD if I'm paying 1000+ for a freaking laptop I want better specs than a freaking dual core.

[mynameisjuan]

20 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

It gets worse....

 

This is the price of a fully decked out 15" 2018 MBP

 

 

 

 

 

[Nerdom]

3 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

They made a few minor adjustments but it's the same basic design. Which is prone to fail.

what if you drop it? (tell linus before review: keyboard breaks when dropped)

[Emberstone]

13 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

It gets worse....

 

This is the price of a fully decked out 15" 2018 MBP

 

If you'd just Think Different™ a little harder, you'd understand the price.

 

Seeing Apple continually be awful to consumers makes me wonder if Tim Cook and other execs are as full of themselves as the brand appears to be of itself.

[bimmerman]

I don't see the issue.

 

15" MBP with 512GB SSD and 16GB ram, i9, is $3100.

15" Dell Precision 5530 with 512GB SSD, 16GB, i9, is $3070.

Price difference: $30.

 

upgrade to 32GB and 1TB:

MBP is $3900

Dell is $3710

Price difference: $190.

 

Prices are very comparable for comparable machines used for comparable tasks. My current Precision 5520 is the Xeon/512/16gb version and was a similar price point when new, though was paid for by work.

 

I don't need tons of storage or ram-- external drives and some Chrome self control solve those problems. That is where you're getting hosed on pricing anyway. However, if you need the 32GB/1TB version for work, that price delta is less than two hours of billable engineer time (vs the Dell), or half a day of delta over the 512/16 models, so it's super easy to justify if there's a need.

 

If all you care about is gaming, then neither of these are for you.

[TheSLSAMG]

I wonder how quick they'll hit 105C

[Camoxide]

48 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

They made a few minor adjustments but it's the same basic design. Which is prone to fail.

It probably won't get replaced until the next generation of MacBook Pros, which will probably be in 2020 sometime. 

[mynameisjuan]

33 minutes ago, bimmerman said:

I don't see the issue.

 

15" MBP with 512GB SSD and 16GB ram, i9, is $3100.

15" Dell Precision 5530 with 512GB SSD, 16GB, i9, is $3070.

Price difference: $30.

 

upgrade to 32GB and 1TB:

MBP is $3900

Dell is $3710

Price difference: $190.

The two configurations you did to get the costs are so far off in performance. 

[bimmerman]

8 minutes ago, mynameisjuan said:

The two configurations you did to get the costs are so far off in performance. 

same processor/ram/ssd, using the similar tier GPUs, the 'retina'/4k screens, same warranty and support....that's not very far off.

[Blade of Grass]

4 hours ago, Amazonsucks said:

Oh thats lame. Most people have cheap LED lighting nowadays so if it adjusts the white point to match the ambient lighting its doing a disservice to your eyes.

 

Much better to just use the built in OSD on a monitor and set it to warm for everything except colour critical work, which youd want the exact white point calibrated for. Or use the slider and turn the blue down by 50-75% in Windows or Blue Light Filter in Android. F.Lux was nice to bring general awareness to the issue but just about everything can be easily calibrated to be less retina destroying nowadays.

 True Tone literally is designed to adjust the screen to be the correct "white" given lighting conditions... How is "eyeballing it" better than figuring out the correct colour?

[RedRound2]

1 hour ago, AluminiumTech said:

It gets worse....

 

This is the price of a fully decked out 15" 2018 MBP

That's only because of the ridiculous $3400 SSD. And no one in their right mind (unless money is no object) would get that model